Another D.O.G.E challenge: Why do we need 18 separate intelligence agencies?

[MarathonMike]

There's another opportunity for eliminating redundancy. That is after we find out WTF all 18 intelligence agencies have been doing!

 

[Dekster]

There's another opportunity for eliminating redundancy. That is after we find out WTF all 18 intelligence agencies have been doing!

Which ones should we get rid of? Name them....

 

[whitehall]

The primary intelligence agency hasn't been ahead of major threats to the U.S. since WW2 The CIA should have been reorganized and/or restructured after 911. There are no secrets left.

 

[alang1216]

The primary intelligence agency hasn't been ahead of major threats to the U.S. since WW2 The CIA should have been reorganized and/or restructured after 911. There are no secrets left.

How do you know? Even if you were in the CIA you wouldn't know all their secrets.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

There's another opportunity for eliminating redundancy. That is after we find out WTF all 18 intelligence agencies have been doing!

You mean other than when they're busy violating the rights of some Americans?

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1. COINTELPRO (1956–1971)​

• Agency: FBI
• Description: The FBI’s Counter Intelligence Program (COINTELPRO) involved surveillance, infiltration, and disruption of civil rights groups, political organizations, and dissenting individuals, such as Martin Luther King Jr. and the Black Panther Party.
• Violation: The program targeted individuals and groups based on their political beliefs, violating First Amendment rights to free speech and assembly.
• Source:
  • ACLU on COINTELPRO
  • FBI Records on COINTELPRO

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2. NSA Warrantless Wiretapping (Early 2000s)​

• Agency: NSA
• Description: Following 9/11, the NSA engaged in warrantless wiretapping under the Terrorist Surveillance Program, bypassing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). Americans’ phone calls and emails were monitored without court approval.
• Violation: The program infringed on Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches and seizures.
• Source:
  • EFF on NSA Warrantless Surveillance
  • New York Times Exposé

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3. PRISM Program (2007–2013)​

• Agency: NSA
• Description: Under the PRISM program, the NSA collected internet communications from U.S. companies like Google and Facebook, accessing emails, chats, and other data. Revelations by Edward Snowden exposed this mass surveillance effort.
• Violation: Sparked debates about privacy and whether the program overstepped Fourth Amendment protections.
• Source:
  • The Guardian on PRISM
  • EFF on PRISM

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4. FBI’s Misuse of Section 702 of FISA (2017–2020)​

• Agency: FBI
• Description: The FBI improperly searched the NSA’s database under Section 702 of FISA, which is meant to target foreign nationals but was used to query information on U.S. citizens without sufficient justification.
• Violation: Violated privacy laws and raised concerns about misuse of surveillance powers.
• Source:
  • Wired on FBI Abuses
  • ODNI Report on Section 702

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5. CIA’s Bulk Data Collection (2013–2021)​

• Agency: CIA
• Description: The CIA conducted bulk collection of Americans’ data, including financial and telecommunication records, without explicit legal authorization. The program operated outside typical oversight channels.
• Violation: Raised serious privacy concerns and questions about adherence to legal and constitutional limits.
• Source:
  • Brennan Center on CIA Data Collection
  • Senate Intelligence Report

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6. FBI Surveillance of Muslim Americans Post-9/11​

• Agency: FBI
• Description: The FBI used undercover informants and surveillance programs to monitor Muslim communities across the U.S., often without evidence of wrongdoing.
• Violation: Critics argue this violated First Amendment rights (freedom of religion) and Fourteenth Amendment protections against discrimination.
• Source:
  • ACLU on FBI Surveillance
  • Human Rights Watch Report

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​

 

[Oddball]

Which ones should we get rid of? Name them....

Start with the FBI....You can't fix that shit show, burn it to the ground.

CIA...Roll that into the military.

DHS...Abolish it and TSA outright.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

All climate change spending should be cut

 

[MarathonMike]

You mean other than when they're busy violating the rights of some Americans?

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1. COINTELPRO (1956–1971)​

• Agency: FBI
• Description: The FBI’s Counter Intelligence Program (COINTELPRO) involved surveillance, infiltration, and disruption of civil rights groups, political organizations, and dissenting individuals, such as Martin Luther King Jr. and the Black Panther Party.
• Violation: The program targeted individuals and groups based on their political beliefs, violating First Amendment rights to free speech and assembly.
• Source:
  • ACLU on COINTELPRO
  • FBI Records on COINTELPRO

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2. NSA Warrantless Wiretapping (Early 2000s)​

• Agency: NSA
• Description: Following 9/11, the NSA engaged in warrantless wiretapping under the Terrorist Surveillance Program, bypassing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). Americans’ phone calls and emails were monitored without court approval.
• Violation: The program infringed on Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches and seizures.
• Source:
  • EFF on NSA Warrantless Surveillance
  • New York Times Exposé

---

3. PRISM Program (2007–2013)​

• Agency: NSA
• Description: Under the PRISM program, the NSA collected internet communications from U.S. companies like Google and Facebook, accessing emails, chats, and other data. Revelations by Edward Snowden exposed this mass surveillance effort.
• Violation: Sparked debates about privacy and whether the program overstepped Fourth Amendment protections.
• Source:
  • The Guardian on PRISM
  • EFF on PRISM

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4. FBI’s Misuse of Section 702 of FISA (2017–2020)​

• Agency: FBI
• Description: The FBI improperly searched the NSA’s database under Section 702 of FISA, which is meant to target foreign nationals but was used to query information on U.S. citizens without sufficient justification.
• Violation: Violated privacy laws and raised concerns about misuse of surveillance powers.
• Source:
  • Wired on FBI Abuses
  • ODNI Report on Section 702

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5. CIA’s Bulk Data Collection (2013–2021)​

• Agency: CIA
• Description: The CIA conducted bulk collection of Americans’ data, including financial and telecommunication records, without explicit legal authorization. The program operated outside typical oversight channels.
• Violation: Raised serious privacy concerns and questions about adherence to legal and constitutional limits.
• Source:
  • Brennan Center on CIA Data Collection
  • Senate Intelligence Report

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6. FBI Surveillance of Muslim Americans Post-9/11​

• Agency: FBI
• Description: The FBI used undercover informants and surveillance programs to monitor Muslim communities across the U.S., often without evidence of wrongdoing.
• Violation: Critics argue this violated First Amendment rights (freedom of religion) and Fourteenth Amendment protections against discrimination.
• Source:
  • ACLU on FBI Surveillance
  • Human Rights Watch Report

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​

That's a fine sampling, yes exactly.

 

[Dekster]

Start with the FBI....You can't fix that shit show, burn it to the ground.

CIA...Roll that into the military.

DHS...Abolish it and TSA outright.

Do you work for China or Russia? Just curious.

 

[Hellokitty]

Which ones should we get rid of? Name them....

Better to name the ones we need and why we need them. Most are just playing cover for corruption of the others.

 

[Oddball]

Do you work for China or Russia? Just curious.

GFY