Zone1 An agnostic makes a promise he can't keep...

[Blackrook]

I saw a movie where a man is answering his niece's questions about God and religion. The answers to all her questions was "I don't know."

But then, he said, "What you're really asking is whether we'll all be together afterwards, the answer to that is 'yes.'"

I find this sequence amazing and also pretty stupid.

The man is presenting to his niece the agnostic point of view. But if he doesn't know the answers, he can't promise anything to her about the afterlife.

Do people not understand that?

 

[rightwinger]

I saw a movie where a man is answering his niece's questions about God and religion. The answers to all her questions was "I don't know."

Well, the Bible has the answers
They might not be true…..but there are answers

 

[Blackrook]

People need answers, that's why humans have had religion since the beginnings of the human race. The first sign that archaelogists find when digging up human settlements is signs of ceremonial treatment of the dead, which means belief in an afterlife.

The agnostic point of view is we can't know the answers. That's more logical than atheism, but when an agnostic talks to his children he can't quiet the child's fear of death.

 

[shockedcanadian]

All will be revealed to everyone. None of us are in a rush to find out though.

 

[The Duke]

I saw a movie where a man is answering his niece's questions about God and religion. The answers to all her questions was "I don't know."

But then, he said, "What you're really asking is whether we'll all be together afterwards, the answer to that is 'yes.'"

I find this sequence amazing and also pretty stupid.

The man is presenting to his niece the agnostic point of view. But if he doesn't know the answers, he can't promise anything to her about the afterlife.

Do people not understand that?

I think you're thinking too much into this.

 

[1srelluc]

I'm agnostic, and my answer to a kid would be don't ask God for favors, live your live as best you can, and hopefully He leaves you alone.

 

[The Duke]

I'm agnostic, and my answer to a kid would be don't ask God for favors, live your live as best you can, and hopefully He leaves you alone.

I am not like that, for but by the grace of God go I.
Cats ain't got shit on the amount of lives I've had and times I coulda died.
Ziplines with handlebars, for instance. A kid broke his arm. 20-something feet to the ground. Straight fall.
Oh, that was bad.

 

[ding]

I saw a movie where a man is answering his niece's questions about God and religion. The answers to all her questions was "I don't know."

But then, he said, "What you're really asking is whether we'll all be together afterwards, the answer to that is 'yes.'"

I find this sequence amazing and also pretty stupid.

The man is presenting to his niece the agnostic point of view. But if he doesn't know the answers, he can't promise anything to her about the afterlife.

Do people not understand that?

There's a couple of different ways his answer could be interpreted; the way you are interpreting it which is that they would be together in some form of existence or the intentionally vague way of they would be together not existing.

 

[BULLDOG]

I saw a movie where a man is answering his niece's questions about God and religion. The answers to all her questions was "I don't know."

But then, he said, "What you're really asking is whether we'll all be together afterwards, the answer to that is 'yes.'"

I find this sequence amazing and also pretty stupid.

The man is presenting to his niece the agnostic point of view. But if he doesn't know the answers, he can't promise anything to her about the afterlife.

Do people not understand that?

Now you're catching on.

 

[BreezeWood]

But then, he said, "What you're really asking is whether we'll all be together afterwards, the answer to that is 'yes.'"

not knowing the answers and believing in the end everyone will perish as the inevitable are the same in their belief.

 

[GLASNOST]

I saw a movie where a man is answering his niece's questions about God and religion. The answers to all her questions was "I don't know."

Fair enough.

But then, he said, "What you're really asking is whether we'll all be together afterwards, the answer to that is 'yes.'"

I guess he's not an agnostic after all. But it was in a movie, right?

I find this sequence amazing and also pretty stupid.

Amazing, no .... stupid, yes.

The man is presenting to his niece the agnostic point of view. But if he doesn't know the answers, he can't promise anything to her about the afterlife.

That's right.

Do people not understand that?

I am an agnostic. I understand it and I agree with you. But it was in a movie, right? So, if you are making a statement it's good but if you are making a complaint then you're in the wrong department.

 

[GLASNOST]

People need answers,......

We want answers but apparently we don't really need them.

 

[Arlette]

People need answers, that's why humans have had religion since the beginnings of the human race. The first sign that archaelogists find when digging up human settlements is signs of ceremonial treatment of the dead, which means belief in an afterlife.

The agnostic point of view is we can't know the answers. That's more logical than atheism, but when an agnostic talks to his children he can't quiet the child's fear of death.

Blackrook, I have been herding goats and sheep all my life and that's how I know all the secrets of the universe. So listen up: Humans want to know what's going on, how stuff works. We are hardwired that way. Considering the lack of scientific knowledge in ancient times, it was reasonable for people to come up with a God/Gods as explanation for just about anything. Now of course we know better or SHOULD know better. Religion is just a leftover from the infancy of mankind. It's time to grow up.

 

[luiza]

I saw a movie where a man is answering his niece's questions about God and religion. The answers to all her questions was "I don't know."

But then, he said, "What you're really asking is whether we'll all be together afterwards, the answer to that is 'yes.'"

Given the existence of an energy that is labelled " soul" , the anecdote answers are very reasonable .
Unfortunately Cult Christianity does not understand the reality of Soul being eternal throughout all Time .

Others -- as per my view ---have a different and perhaps wider and deeper understanding of Universe, and how the" Godhead " is the sum of all Souls and not a separate entity .

Best not to criticise too much OP, if your disagreement is as narrow as it appears to be .

 

[GLASNOST]

Best not to criticise too much OP, if your disagreement is as narrow as it appears to be .

... and I think it is too.

 

[Blackrook]

I'm agnostic, and my answer to a kid would be don't ask God for favors, live your live as best you can, and hopefully He leaves you alone.

That's not sufficient. Your child will want to know what happens to her after death. What's your answer?

 

[Blackrook]

My criticism of the movie is my criticism of an atheist or agnostic who can't answer the question, "What happens to us after we die?"

Your only hope is your child will never wonder. That seems unlikely.

 

[Blackrook]

I thought the reason God exists is because the universe didn't get here by itself.

Now I know the truth. The reason we believe God exists is that the alternative is too terrible: After death, we simply cease to exist. Who wants to teach that to a child? I wouldn't.

 

[BULLDOG]

That's not sufficient. Your child will want to know what happens to her after death. What's your answer?

The same thing I would say if she asked if unicorns are real. I would say nobody knows, but if anyone says they do, they are lying.

 

[Blackrook]

I've been plagued by the Catholic faith: it's so strict in so many ways. As a divorced man I must live without women. That's been a big hurdle for me and I've only recently resolved it.

But there's so much comfort in the Catholic faith. So many people beat their heads against the wall because they don't know the answers to life's big questions.

As a Catholic, I know the answers. Or at least, I believe I know the answers, which is just as good as knowing.

If I'm wrong, I've lost nothing of value.