American Public Education is Failing...and Getting Worse Every Year

[DGS49]

MSN

I apologize for the length of this article, but it is a good explanation of how bad our public education is, when it started its latest decline (don't blame Covid - that's just a lame excuse), and how pervasive it is.

In other forums you can read about how aggressive other countries are with their public education, their successes, what they expect of their students, and the contrast with our system, where more people care about the record of the school's ******* football team than their test scores.

Who and/or what are to blame? Teachers' unions are at the top of the list; no significant changes can be made unless they benefit the teachers, which makes real change a non-starter. Government employment in general, where the goal is always to make yourself (i.e., the school administration) look good. Two-income households, where the parents can't be bothered to play an active role in their children's education. The cornucopia of extra-curricular activities that take the focus away from learning. Cultural rot, especially in the Black and Hispanic communities.

Colleges are part of the problem as well, as they keep lowering their standards to accept marginally-educated HS grads, which carries through with their course and major offerings, and produces a generation of ignorant people with sheepskins that are close to worthless.

There are some schools that do well, but in many cases, the parents are delusional about how well they are doing. The best public schools are in the suburbs, where the only "diversity" is an influx of Chinese and/or Indian professionals. But if you cannot afford to live in one of those posh suburbs, the best solution, if at all possible, is to send your kids to a private or parochial school - maybe a Charter School if a good one is available.

And one cannot fail to mention that great, involved parents can produce great students in almost any school (district).

For everyone else, get your kids out of regular public schools, before it is too late.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Yep. Our public schools have been trash for years, but so few Americans really realize it and it's not at the top of their priorities when it comes to election time.

 

[1srelluc]

PSA.....Make the personal sacrifices necessary and never let your kids see the inside of a public school. It really is the best thing you can do for the future of America, bar none.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

MSN

I apologize for the length of this article, but it is a good explanation of how bad our public education is, when it started its latest decline (don't blame Covid - that's just a lame excuse), and how pervasive it is.

In other forums you can read about how aggressive other countries are with their public education, their successes, what they expect of their students, and the contrast with our system, where more people care about the record of the school's ******* football team than their test scores.

Who and/or what are to blame? Teachers' unions are at the top of the list; no significant changes can be made unless they benefit the teachers, which makes real change a non-starter. Government employment in general, where the goal is always to make yourself (i.e., the school administration) look good. Two-income households, where the parents can't be bothered to play an active role in their children's education. The cornucopia of extra-curricular activities that take the focus away from learning. Cultural rot, especially in the Black and Hispanic communities.

Colleges are part of the problem as well, as they keep lowering their standards to accept marginally-educated HS grads, which carries through with their course and major offerings, and produces a generation of ignorant people with sheepskins that are close to worthless.

There are some schools that do well, but in many cases, the parents are delusional about how well they are doing. The best public schools are in the suburbs, where the only "diversity" is an influx of Chinese and/or Indian professionals. But if you cannot afford to live in one of those posh suburbs, the best solution, if at all possible, is to send your kids to a private or parochial school - maybe a Charter School if a good one is available.

And one cannot fail to mention that great, involved parents can produce great students in almost any school (district).

For everyone else, get your kids out of regular public schools, before it is too late.

I highlighted your first lie. Since it's your very first assertion, that makes the rest of your post void. Try again. dumbass!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yep. Our public schools have been trash for years, but so few Americans really realize it and it's not at the top of their priorities when it comes to election time.

You forgot the word "some" in your statement. Put away the broad brush!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

PSA.....Make the personal sacrifices necessary and never let your kids see the inside of a public school. It really is the best thing you can do for the future of America, bar none.

You forgot the word "some" in your statement. Put away the broad brush!

 

[westwall]

You forgot the word "some" in your statement. Put away the broad brush!

The only schools I see turning out good students are Montessori's. The public schools are all failing in northern Nevada.

The only question is how badly.

 

[Harry Dresden]

im glad my kid is past all this bullshit...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The only schools I see turning out good students are Montessori's. The public schools are all failing in northern Nevada.

The only question is how badly.

There's that broad brush again? What is your opinion of the schools where I live?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

PSA.....Make the personal sacrifices necessary and never let your kids see the inside of a public school. It really is the best thing you can do for the future of America, bar none.

Agreed. Sent mine to private.

 

[Maxdeath]

While I believe things started with the idea of participation trophies and the no kid left behind it has not improved. In fact I feel that the idea of no kid left behind was modified to mean pass them anyway possible. I also feel too many parents have adopted the very lenient approach to raising children and figure unless the child is in real trouble at school it is the school who is responsible for teaching their children and they are too busy to be doing what they feel is the school and teachers jobs.

 

[DGS49]

I made it clear that some public schools are great. The one in my neighborhood is, even with a strong CBU. The main reason is that there are 1.4 college degrees per household in this district.

 

[Hafar1014]

Reasons some public schools fail. Run by democrats and unions. Single parent families. The system is in a democrat city.

 

[westwall]

There's that broad brush again? What is your opinion of the schools where I live?

I addressed the schools where I live.

 

[SweetSue92]

Honestly the biggest problem is societal/cultural. Families absolutely revolve around the children these days with very little expectation that they DO or PRODUCE anything, even including decent grades in school. Our Victim Olympics society means that no child is held accountable, and neither are the parents. Their brains are burned out on screens, video games and social media. Then the parents are eager to get any dx for them so it's not anyone's fault and the schools must make accommodations.

It's a fat mess

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I addressed the schools where I live.

And you think schools everywhere are just like yours? hence the statement about broad brushing!

I taught in 7 school districts and two states and for the DoD. One of those was the very school district where I graduated from. It was the worst possible place to get an education. An inner-city middle school in the same neighborhood where I was born had deteriorated into a minority and immigrant dominated school where if you made it through the day without having a knock-down, drag-out fight in your classroom, it was considered a good day.

The irony is that my cousin had attended that same school. He went on to graduate from Purdue and had a degree in mechanical engineering spending most of his working life with McDonnell Douglas. What changed? The school? Well, it had been upgraded since it was built in 1927. What changed was the students. In my classes, I was the only "white dude" in the room! The students who were not immigrants and ESL were all from broken homes with parents in jail for various reasons, mostly drugs. What had been middle class when I was born there and my cousin went to school there was now inhabited by the dregs of society. The school was ranked last in the state for middle schools. The reason I was hired was a teacher and her teacher boyfriend both walked out of the school on their lunch break and never came back.

I didn't have those problems in any other school district where I taught. That's why I don't use a broad brush!

 

[SweetSue92]

Agreed. Sent mine to private.

A woman in Mobile, AL was recorded by one of her children absolutely beating the crap out of her 12 yo son. First on the butt with a belt some 20 times, then pulled him up by the hair, then beat him across the arms.

She was arrested and fired from her PRIVATE CHRISTIAN SCHOOL where she taught 2nd grade

 

[westwall]

And you think schools everywhere are just like yours?

Evidence points to that. Small schools, in small towns seem to be the exceptions, due to much greater parental input.

But the larger school systems all seem to be horrible for student outcomes.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Evidence points to that. Small schools, in small towns seem to be the exceptions, due to much greater parental input.

But the larger school systems all seem to be horrible for student outcomes.

That's better. You could have just said red school districts, which are the vast majority.

 

[westwall]

That's better. You could have just said red school districts, which are the vast majority.

Trying to make it racist? You pathetic loser. There are plenty of small schools in blue areas that do well.

Like I said, if the parents are involved, preventing your propaganda from being pushed on kids, they do alright.