America can't have universal healthcare because there are too many illegals and fat people

[JakeWIlls92]

Along with corporate greed.

Illegals who would take advantage of such a system.

Fat people who would weigh the system down.

Am I right?

 

[shockedcanadian]

It could be worse..this is a daily occurrence here. Even babies.

Canadian woman dies in emergency room after seven-hour wait; husband says she was 'neglected'​

Canadian woman dies in emergency room after seven-hour wait; husband says she was 'neglected'

Allison Holthoff, a Canadian woman, spent hours in a temporary waiting room before doctors started administering IV fluid and ordering tests, but it was too late for her.

www.foxnews.com

 

[The Irish Ram]

We could have free healthcare and more if the politicians would quit stealing our money or giving it away to every country that puts their hand out...

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Video shows woman writhing on ER floor at King-Harbor Hospital | ABC7 Los Angeles | abc7.com

Same thing here. A woman dies in a waiting room screaming in pain.

In reality you cannot have universal health care and open borders. Ask El Paso how their hospital is doing.

 

[Dekster]

Along with corporate greed.

Illegals who would take advantage of such a system.

Fat people who would weigh the system down.

Am I right?

We have about twice as many hospitals as our closest socialized friends and about 8 times as many hospitals as Canada. Japan is #1 and we are #2, but apparently Japan has lots of nut houses.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Along with corporate greed.

Illegals who would take advantage of such a system.

Fat people who would weigh the system down.

Am I right?

Well, the UK has a lot of fat people, and a lot of illegal immigrants, and the NHS costs LESS per capita than what the US federal government spends on health care.

Figure out that messed up nonsense.....

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Along with corporate greed.

Illegals who would take advantage of such a system.

Fat people who would weigh the system down.

Am I right?

Medicine can make fat people skinny..big news right now.

Illegals already take 'advantage' if that's the word, of our medical system. No one gets turned away from a hospital anymore..in fact, it's illegal to even ask about payment until after the service is rendered.

Now about corporate greed...you got me on that one...vote Democrat?

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Well, the UK has a lot of fat people, and a lot of illegal immigrants, and the NHS costs LESS per capita than what the US federal government spends on health care.

Figure out that messed up nonsense.....

Yeah..but the NHS has a handle on drug prices..unlike the US.

UK pharma concedes defeat on NHS drug cost controls

After its request for a legal review was thrown out yesterday, UK pharma industry association the ABPI has confirmed it won’t appeal the decision. The pharma industry body decided to request a ‘judicial review’ in July, as it and many of its members were outraged by the new, additional costs...

pharmaphorum.com

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yeah..but the NHS has a handle on drug prices..unlike the US.

UK pharma concedes defeat on NHS drug cost controls

After its request for a legal review was thrown out yesterday, UK pharma industry association the ABPI has confirmed it won’t appeal the decision. The pharma industry body decided to request a ‘judicial review’ in July, as it and many of its members were outraged by the new, additional costs...

pharmaphorum.com

Why does the NHS have a handle on drug prices, and why doesn't the US?

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Why does the NHS have a handle on drug prices, and why doesn't the US?

Because the NHS won a court case 2017 involving price controls on UK drugs. They have some say in pricing--I don't think we do, now do we?
Thus, we pay more..adding to our Healthcare costs.

To quote: UK pharma concedes defeat on NHS drug cost controls -

The Budget Impact Test will allow NHS England to open price negotiations on any NICE-approved drug which may cost more than £20 million in any of its first three years on the market.
NHS England says this is a practical measure to ensure ‘affordability’ – something that NICE doesn’t consider, as it focuses purely on cost effectiveness
While the ABPI says it has maintained a positive dialogue with NICE, NHS England and the Department of Health, the bitter row won’t have helped relations at a difficult time.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Because the NHS won a court case 2017 involving price controls on UK drugs. They have some say in pricing--I don't think we do, now do we?
Thus, we pay more..adding to our Healthcare costs.

To quote: UK pharma concedes defeat on NHS drug cost controls -

The Budget Impact Test will allow NHS England to open price negotiations on any NICE-approved drug which may cost more than £20 million in any of its first three years on the market.
NHS England says this is a practical measure to ensure ‘affordability’ – something that NICE doesn’t consider, as it focuses purely on cost effectiveness
While the ABPI says it has maintained a positive dialogue with NICE, NHS England and the Department of Health, the bitter row won’t have helped relations at a difficult time.

There you go. The reason why the US is paying more is because the RICH control government. The UK has FPTP just like the US, but the UK seems a little more sensible (though not when Boris the New Yorker was in power, coincidence that he is American?).

This is the issue, that for any issue to ever be solved, it seems that the UK needs to change the way people elect their government to Proportional Representation.

 

[Rambunctious]

Elected dems and republicans have health care... they have the best healthcare one can get... so why would anyone think they care or will make our care better?...
They have 24-7 security so why would anyone think they care about crime?....
They care about one thing... re election and holding on to their job.... we have allowed their positions to get too comfortable and profitable...
TERM LIMITS NOW....