All UN Members Walk Out on Netanyahu Speech

[toobfreak]

Israel wanted 10/7 to happen to start their campaign for greater Israel. It's amazing how inept the IDF and their intel is to allow 10/7 to happen. They even got warnings from other countries who knew the attack was being planned.

I've heard this theory before, but the bottom line remains the same: Israel was brutalized on 10/7, they have endured many decades of war and strife and the Arabs are absolutely intransigent on peace, so, I support Israel in whatever it has to do so that it can actually live in peace.

If that ends up with Israel taking over half of the ME, then so be it: it isn't like the muslims have done any great job of running it themselves.

Israel's role is theoretically debatable, but there is no doubt that Hamas baked children alive in ovens.

 

[toobfreak]

Why was there a 7 hour stand down?
Where were the attack helicopters they have gassed up and ready to respond to border fence alarms?

I must tell you GS that much of your theory on what Israel really did sounds much like the claims that the US government staged 9/11 and blew the WTC up themselves.

And that is a bunch of horseshit.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

This ^^^ is proof that a vegan lifestyle rots the brain.

No need to worry.

Netanyahu said they will get the bottom of the 10/7 failures after the war.

Whenever that will be...

I notice even my fellow Americans get triggered by their brethren having a different view of Israel.

What gives?

 

[Concerned American]

Netanyahu said they will get the bottom of the 10/7 failures after the war.

That is what usually happens. War is hell.

 

[westwall]

Why was there a 7 hour stand down?

Where were the attack helicopters they have gassed up and ready to respond to border fence alarms?

No idea, but you tell me ANYTHING, that is 100% right, all the time.

Shit happens. Absent legit evidence to the contrary, I will continue to believe the reporting that we have.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Speaking of deporting people...

No loyal and educated American could support such a monstrous and self destructive atrocity as the Gaza genocide.

Netanyahu's long planned genocide would not be possible without greedy Zionist lobbies and America's infestation of traitorous and parasitic Zionist shills.

About 350,000 rational and ethical Israelis protested against Netanyahu's genocide last week in Tel Aviv;
Who are distant anti Islamic bigots to cheerlead for a genocide that will certainly ensure Israel's long term misery if not destruction?

Hamas loves you, and they thank you for supporting them.

 

[toobfreak]

Why did the idf and their intel suck so much on 10/7.
They even were warned by other intel agencies.

Everyone makes mistakes. As I recall, 10/7 was a holiday, a national holy day, and apparently things were lax due to a long period of quiet, planned celebrations, and if anything, officials did not take any intel they got as seriously as they should have. That doesn't make it a devious, inside plot.

If Israel really wants more land, all they need to do is TAKE IT. Who is going to stop them? And what complaints/opposition would they get for doing so that they are not already suffering just for defending themselves???

 

[Rambunctious]

Why would they walk out like spoiled children?

Theatrics.... just like American elected dems...

 

[buttercup]

Everyone makes mistakes. As I recall, 10/7 was a holiday, a national holy day, and apparently things were lax due to a long period of quiet, planned celebrations, and if anything, officials did not take any intel they got as seriously as they should have. That doesn't make it a devious, inside plot.

If Israel really wants more land, all they need to do it TAKE IT. Who is going to stop them? And what complaints/opposition would they get for doing so that they are not already suffering just for defending themselves???

It was very close to the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur war (itself a "surprise attack") which would have been a time for heightened awareness, not a "lax" attitude. Especially after receiving multiple warnings for months from a number of different sources, including a warning that something "big" was going to happen.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Rubbish. I've looked deeply into the whole 9/11 affair for 24 years with considerable knowledge of the buildings and events, and if 9/11 was an "inside job" it had to be in letting those Saudis get training to fly a jumbo jet down at the Florida flight school yet pass over the part about learning to LAND them without raising suspicion.

There were no rigged airliners nor were explosives secretly planted within the buildings blowing them up. Let me ask you, if someone rigged the WTC with dynamite, how did they know the planes would hit them days/weeks later? And how could they have justified the detonation had those planes been stopped? What then?

Those buildings collapsed simply because they not only had a design flaw, but the protective foam that was supposed to protect key steel structures was never designed to withstand the explosion of fully fueled jumbo jets.

When they designed the WTC in the 1960s, they never conceived of anything other than maybe a private airplane hitting the towers on a cloudy/stormy day.

I used to think the same but now not so much.

Soon the AI will reach the singularity and literally all will be known.

When this occurs we'll see who was the rightest

What bothers me though is how some on the right are so emotionally attached to Israel that they lash out at anyone with a different view. People who i have fought along side with for years. Seems a bit much to me. We on the right should encourage debate. These debates make us more righter in the long run.

 

[toobfreak]

It was very close to the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur war (itself a "surprise attack") which would have been a time for heightened awareness, not a "lax" attitude. Especially after receiving multiple warnings for months from a number of different sources, including a warning that something "big" was going to happen.

First of all, thank you for the big, fat red thumbs down. But at least you are defending your thoughts. Yes, I know it was a holiday, I knew all of that, in hindsight, a big mistake not to be vigilant, but Israel is vigilant all of the time, and apparently, they thought wrongly that the risk was low.

Whoops.

Maybe for once, they didn't want to mar the festivity with heightened militancy. Maybe they thought they had cut some inroads with Hamas.

None of these makes Israel complicit in a devious plot to sacrifice their own citizens. At worst, it just makes them needing to question their intelligence officials. Like I already said, Israel barely needed to sacrifice thousands of their own people in savage, inhumane attacks just to "drum up" an excuse, they can march into surrounding lands anytime they want and just take it.

Doing so could not possibly get them anymore scorn from the UN than the UN already has for them just for breathing.

 

[ChemEngineer]

The war needs to end. It is hurting Bibi and Trump politically in addition to the number of deaths.

Why don't you fly over there and stamp your feet and stop Hamas from its evil practices and theft of relief for its sympathizers. That ought to do the trick Mister Canuckistan.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Everyone makes mistakes. As I recall, 10/7 was a holiday, a national holy day, and apparently things were lax due to a long period of quiet, planned celebrations, and if anything, officials did not take any intel they got as seriously as they should have. That doesn't make it a devious, inside plot.

If Israel really wants more land, all they need to do is TAKE IT. Who is going to stop them? And what complaints/opposition would they get for doing so that they are not already suffering just for defending themselves???

Rag tag Hamas whooped Israel because they all took the day off?

In America, do all our defenses turn off on Christmas?

In my humble opinion, 10/7 was meant to be as bad as possible to justify years of war for this goal.

I believe that if the idf wasn't given a stand down order, 10/7 would have lasted 5 minutes and resulted in very few Israeli casualties.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

The war needs to end. It is hurting Bibi and Trump politically in addition to the number of deaths.

How can the war end when Hamas still holds Israeli citizens hostage?

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Rubbish. I've looked deeply into the whole 9/11 affair for 24 years with considerable knowledge of the buildings and events, and if 9/11 was an "inside job" it had to be in letting those Saudis get training to fly a jumbo jet down at the Florida flight school yet pass over the part about learning to LAND them without raising suspicion.

There were no rigged airliners nor were explosives secretly planted within the buildings blowing them up. Let me ask you, if someone rigged the WTC with dynamite, how did they know the planes would hit them days/weeks later? And how could they have justified the detonation had those planes been stopped? What then?

Those buildings collapsed simply because they not only had a design flaw, but the protective foam that was supposed to protect key steel structures was never designed to withstand the explosion of fully fueled jumbo jets.

When they designed the WTC in the 1960s, they never conceived of anything other than maybe a private airplane hitting the towers on a cloudy/stormy day.

Do you remember the Muslims dancing on the rooftops?

 

[Lisa558]

Do you remember the Muslims dancing on the rooftops?

They were passing out candy to the Muslim children to “celebrate.”

 

[toobfreak]

Soon the AI will reach the singularity and literally all will be known.
When this occurs we'll see who was the rightest

Well, believe me as someone who used to work on the only computer system bigger than the Pentagons, that if AI ever reaches that point, you and I will be the last folks on Earth to learn who was the rightest.

What bothers me though is how some on the right are so emotionally attached to Israel that they lash out at anyone with a different view.

Well, I'm not Jewish nor attached to Israel in any way. But I do respect them, and I sympathize with the terrible position they are in literally surrounded by intractable enemies on all sides with just 8,000 mi/sq of land to call home--- that is barely 90 miles on a square side.

I also recognize that Israel wants peace and cooperation, and have tried for it many times for years and years, and it is always the Arabs who refuse, reaffirming their intent to utterly exterminate the Jews.

I will say this: I wish our TSA were a tenth as efficient and effective at screening people of high risk and suspicion instead of wanting to do a cavity search on a 90 year old cancer patient in a wheelchair.

 

[rosends]

It was very close to the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur war (itself a "surprise attack") which would have been a time for heightened awareness, not a "lax" attitude. Especially after receiving multiple warnings for months from a number of different sources, including a warning that something "big" was going to happen.

There was no need for heightened awareness simply because of the date. The sabbath and holiday meant that many soldiers were home and others were not expecting anything early on a holiday morning. The warnings and such were too large scale to be believable -- an error in judgment, no doubt. This was at an area which had frequent interaction with citizens of Gaza and there was a local crossing so it was relatively open.

 

[toobfreak]

There was no need for heightened awareness simply because of the date. The sabbath and holiday meant that many soldiers were home and others were not expecting anything early on a holiday morning. The warnings and such were too large scale to be believable -- an error in judgment, no doubt. This was at an area which had frequent interaction with citizens of Gaza and there was a local crossing so it was relatively open.

Exactly right.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Why don't you fly over there and stamp your feet and stop Hamas from its evil practices and theft of relief for its sympathizers. That ought to do the trick Mister Canuckistan.

Do you follow the current events there and how the war is shaping up?