Ahem.... You HusseinCare advocates... You were bragging about UK' nationalized health???

[Conservative65]

Since you work with them, their image must be based on you. Don't blame the rest of us when you're the one they deal with.

I know this will amaze you, but the British have TV's. And when they see guys like THIS-



They realize how piss ignorant your part of the country is.

Sounds to me as if you think adhering to a religion makes me piss ignorant.

 

[Conservative65]

You say it isn't about money then your entire answer centers around COSTS.

Yes, exactly. Ed Hanaway's NINE FIGURE retirement package does not add to treatment. He was given that because he made Cigna profitable by denying treatment to people like Nataline Sarkisyan.

So it is about money? That means you lied when you said it wasn't asshole. That's why I can't trust your kind.

 

[JoeB131]

So yours did come from a community college.

No, it came from a University. Next.

Not if you're worth keeping. Guess you were in the lower 70%.

YOU lost YOUR job because the company felt you weren't worth keeping. They had to keep someone. Why not you? Wait, I know. You weren't worth it.

The people they kept weren't worth it either. very few of them still work there. But they were kept because they had been recent hires that worked for a lot less than those of us who were hired during the good times made. That's the point.

And again, the fact that I had extensive medical bills and this company had a habit of firing people when they got sick, injured or pregnant didn't help. Until someone sued them for $300,000.

 

[Conservative65]

You say it isn't about money then your entire answer centers around COSTS.

Yes, exactly. Ed Hanaway's NINE FIGURE retirement package does not add to treatment. He was given that because he made Cigna profitable by denying treatment to people like Nataline Sarkisyan.

Are you an insider with Cigna? Making claims like that must mean you are.

 

[Skull Pilot]

American Communists/Progressives love to boast about how wonderful Great Britain is. They've been doing it for many years. They see the Brits as fellow Communist Globalists. It's a strange worship mentality. American Communists/Progressives strive to be British Communist Globalists. They see that as being the 'Gold Standard' of Communist Globalism.

But the reality is, Great Britain is in awful shape. It's Healthcare System is in shambles. Its People do not live well in general. A recent study concluded that if Great Britain were a State in the U.S., it would rank only above Mississippi in standard of living. Its People are poorer than average Americans, and only getting poorer. So boasting about Great Britain may be all the rage with American Communists/Progressives, but the reality is actually pretty ugly.

Okay, guys, this is where you see Paulbots got full crazy.

The UK has a longer life expectency, a lower infant mortality rate than we do, and it spends only 8% of its GDP on health care, as opposed to 18% in the US>

Americans are by nature more likely to participate in risky behavior and you first have to compare what constitutes a live birth in the UK before you compare those numbers.

Some countries do not count extremely premature babies, some don't count a birth until it is several days old.

Infant Mortality A Deceptive Statistic National Review Online

Gross differences in the fundamental definition of “live birth” invalidate comparisons of early neonatal death rates. The United States strictly adheres to the WHO definition of live birth (any infant “irrespective of the duration of the pregnancy, which . . . breathes or shows any other evidence of life . . . whether or not the umbilical cord has been cut or the placenta is attached”) and uses a strictly implemented linked birth and infant-death data set. On the contrary, many other nations, including highly developed countries in Western Europe, use far less strict definitions, all of which underreport the live births of more fragile infants who soon die. As a consequence, they falsely report more favorable neonatal- and infant-mortality rates.

 

[Conservative65]

So yours did come from a community college.

No, it came from a University. Next.

Not if you're worth keeping. Guess you were in the lower 70%.

YOU lost YOUR job because the company felt you weren't worth keeping. They had to keep someone. Why not you? Wait, I know. You weren't worth it.

The people they kept weren't worth it either. very few of them still work there. But they were kept because they had been recent hires that worked for a lot less than those of us who were hired during the good times made. That's the point.

And again, the fact that I had extensive medical bills and this company had a habit of firing people when they got sick, injured or pregnant didn't help. Until someone sued them for $300,000.

Like a State University that just about anyone can get in.

If the people they kept weren't worth it, you admitted you were worth less than them since they let you go and kept them. If you are worthwhile and making money for the company, they'd keep you because you would be providing them something. Still making excuses for your pitiful work ability.

So that's how you live now. You sued?

 

[JoeB131]

You say it isn't about money then your entire answer centers around COSTS.

Yes, exactly. Ed Hanaway's NINE FIGURE retirement package does not add to treatment. He was given that because he made Cigna profitable by denying treatment to people like Nataline Sarkisyan.

So it is about money? That means you lied when you said it wasn't asshole. That's why I can't trust your kind.

Are you some kind of retard? I have to honestly ask this, because I made a very plain statement that most people could understand, and you are kind of acting like Corky the Retard banging his head against the wall.

No, there is PLENTY of money. It's not being spent right. It's not being spent on things that bring health care.

We spend 18% of our GDP on health care, and we only cover 75% of our population. The other industrialized countries spend 8-11% of their GDP on health care, cover everyone and have much better results than we have in terms of life expectancy, infant mortality, and overall health.

 

[JoeB131]

Americans are by nature more likely to participate in risky behavior and you first have to compare what constitutes a live birth in the UK before you compare those numbers.

Some countries do not count extremely premature babies, some don't count a birth until it is several days old.

I dispensed with this argument pages ago. Please try to keep up.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Americans are by nature more likely to participate in risky behavior and you first have to compare what constitutes a live birth in the UK before you compare those numbers.

Some countries do not count extremely premature babies, some don't count a birth until it is several days old.

I dispensed with this argument pages ago. Please try to keep up.

YEah like I'm going to waste my time hunting for your idiotic posts

 

[Conservative65]

You say it isn't about money then your entire answer centers around COSTS.

Yes, exactly. Ed Hanaway's NINE FIGURE retirement package does not add to treatment. He was given that because he made Cigna profitable by denying treatment to people like Nataline Sarkisyan.

So it is about money? That means you lied when you said it wasn't asshole. That's why I can't trust your kind.

Are you some kind of retard? I have to honestly ask this, because I made a very plain statement that most people could understand, and you are kind of acting like Corky the Retard banging his head against the wall.

No, there is PLENTY of money. It's not being spent right. It's not being spent on things that bring health care.

We spend 18% of our GDP on health care, and we only cover 75% of our population. The other industrialized countries spend 8-11% of their GDP on health care, cover everyone and have much better results than we have in terms of life expectancy, infant mortality, and overall health.

You said it wasn't about money then said it was.

It's not being spent right based on what, your opinion? Your opinion doesn't count son.

If that 25% isn't getting covered, YOU and the rest of the bleeding hearts find someone without it and pay their premiums. I'm not interested.

 

[JoeB131]

If the people they kept weren't worth it, you admitted you were worth less than them since they let you go and kept them. If you are worthwhile and making money for the company, they'd keep you because you would be providing them something. Still making excuses for your pitiful work ability.

So that's how you live now. You sued?

No, I didn't sue, because my line of work is not one where you want your name attached to lawsuits. they still paid me a bunch of money when I left so I wouldn't sue.

What I've found is that "worthwhile' doesn't really mean that much. The boss would much rather keep the person who kisses his ass. That's why we need unions and strong worker's rights.

 

[JoeB131]

YEah like I'm going to waste my time hunting for your idiotic posts

Guy, we've debunked the whole "They aren't counting preemies" argument so many times, I'm amazed you guys still make it, but your side has this bizarre fixations on fetuses.

 

[Skull Pilot]

YEah like I'm going to waste my time hunting for your idiotic posts

Guy, we've debunked the whole "They aren't counting preemies" argument so many times, I'm amazed you guys still make it, but your side has this bizarre fixations on fetuses.

Sorry but what you cal discounting is about as meaningful as anything else you post

 

[JoeB131]

You said it wasn't about money then said it was.

It's not being spent right based on what, your opinion? Your opinion doesn't count son.

Please explain how paying Ed Hanaway, former president of Cigna, 100 million dollars to NOT work anymore enhances the quality of health care in any way.

The problem with private insurance is that making sure that the patient gets treatment is the third priority after making sure that employers rates are kept low and dividends are paid to shareholders. That's why the system doesn't work DESPITE spending more than any country on earth.

Clearly, they didn't teach you math at Talking Snake U.

If that 25% isn't getting covered, YOU and the rest of the bleeding hearts find someone without it and pay their premiums. I'm not interested.

We did. We passed the ACA. Problem solved. Well, single payer would still be better.

 

[JoeB131]

YEah like I'm going to waste my time hunting for your idiotic posts

Guy, we've debunked the whole "They aren't counting preemies" argument so many times, I'm amazed you guys still make it, but your side has this bizarre fixations on fetuses.

Sorry but what you cal discounting is about as meaningful as anything else you post

so you've got nothing to add to the discussion, then? Thanks for playing.

 

[Skull Pilot]

YEah like I'm going to waste my time hunting for your idiotic posts

Guy, we've debunked the whole "They aren't counting preemies" argument so many times, I'm amazed you guys still make it, but your side has this bizarre fixations on fetuses.

Sorry but what you cal discounting is about as meaningful as anything else you post

so you've got nothing to add to the discussion, then? Thanks for playing.

Link me to the post in this thread where you "debunked" the infant mortality statistic differences.

 

[JoeB131]

YEah like I'm going to waste my time hunting for your idiotic posts

Guy, we've debunked the whole "They aren't counting preemies" argument so many times, I'm amazed you guys still make it, but your side has this bizarre fixations on fetuses.

Sorry but what you cal discounting is about as meaningful as anything else you post

so you've got nothing to add to the discussion, then? Thanks for playing.

Link me to the post in this thread where you "debunked" the infant mortality statistic differences.

Go back a couple of pages and you'll find it.

 

[paulitician]

American Communists/Progressives love to boast about how wonderful Great Britain is. They've been doing it for many years. They see the Brits as fellow Communist Globalists. It's a strange worship mentality. American Communists/Progressives strive to be British Communist Globalists. They see that as being the 'Gold Standard' of Communist Globalism.

But the reality is, Great Britain is in awful shape. It's Healthcare System is in shambles. Its People do not live well in general. A recent study concluded that if Great Britain were a State in the U.S., it would rank only above Mississippi in standard of living. Its People are poorer than average Americans, and only getting poorer. So boasting about Great Britain may be all the rage with American Communists/Progressives, but the reality is actually pretty ugly.

Okay, guys, this is where you see Paulbots got full crazy.

The UK has a longer life expectency, a lower infant mortality rate than we do, and it spends only 8% of its GDP on health care, as opposed to 18% in the US>

on the UN human development index....which is a comparative measure of life expectancy,literacy,education,standards of living, and quality of life for countries world wide the US is no 5...the UK is no 14....just sayin.....

As far as home/land ownership and income goes, average American Citizens live better than average British Citizens. Most Brits live in nearly squalor-like conditions. Most Americans wouldn't accept living that way.

So the American Communist/Progressive image of Brits living in royal extravagance, is pure fantasy. Very few live very well.

 

[JoeB131]

As far as home/land ownership and income goes, average American Citizens live better than average British Citizens. Most Brits live in nearly squalor-like conditions. Most Americans wouldn't accept living that way.

So the American Communist/Progressive image of Brits living in royal extravagance, is pure fantasy. Very few live very well.

Very few AMericans live that well anymore, thanks to your boy Reagan demolishing the middle class.

 

[paulitician]

No, you're a just a bitter loser. But that's all on you. Like i said, get educated and get a better job. The opportunities are there. There's much more opportunity here in the the U.S., than there is in any other Nation on earth. That's just fact. You should consider yourself very blessed you're a part of this Nation.

So stop hating and blaming others. Your life is what you've made of it. You can either change it, or accept it and live it with grace and dignity. But bitterness and envy is no way to live. Good luck and God Bless.

Guy, I'm better educated than you are and I have a good job. I used to have a BETTER job until you guys got control of the economy and fucked everything up.

Actually, I love my country and unlke you, I served in her armed forces. It's her people I don't have much use for. Particularly the dumb-ass red state bubba rednecks who think angels are a real thing and you need guns to make up for your tiny peckers.

If you were worth a crap, you would still have that better job. Look in the mirror and blame yourself although your automatic mindset it to blame someone else for your failings. If you had anything to offer, you wouldn't have lost that supposed better job. As far as education, I'll put my three degrees, two of which are advanced, and the universities where I earned them above your community college anytime boy.

Sadly, the Democratic Party has fostered the Entitlement mentality. People like that Poster truly believe they deserve something. They truly believe stealing from fellow Citizens is just.

The solution is to get better educated and find a better job. It really is that simple. But unfortunately, the Entitlement Whiners find it much easier to hate and blame others for their own failures. It's easier to demand a Freebie.

Sir Winston Churchill summed it up perfectly many years ago...

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."