After what the stupid party did in Colorado, they will soon be history.

[JoeB131]

You are a habitual liar, Joey. You lie about being Republican, you lie about being a Jew-hater, you lie about being a hypocrite... you just lie all the time about everything. You're like my ex-sister-n-law... you'll tell a lie just to see if you can sell the lie... even when the truth would be easier.

I hate that you went to all that trouble to parse out my post and rant on and on about whatever... because I don't intent on reading or responding to it. You're just a big ******* full of shit blowhard. I don't have time for your nonsense.

Your gutless and whimpering concession is truly noted, guy. Frankly, you aren't even much of a challenge any more.

 

[Boss]

Your gutless and whimpering concession is truly noted, guy. Frankly, you aren't even much of a challenge any more.

Good... then shut your lying, jew-hating pie hole and move along.

 

[JoeB131]

Your gutless and whimpering concession is truly noted, guy. Frankly, you aren't even much of a challenge any more.

Good... then shut your lying, jew-hating pie hole and move along.

Yawn, guy, actually, mocking you and your stupidity is going to be fun. It'll be a long time until Cleveland, and I am going to enjoy every minute of the bloodletting between Trump and Cruz.

Every minute.

2016 will be that drunken episode where the person signed up for AA the next day. When the rest of you realize what I realized in 2008, that you all have totally lost your way and let the inmates take over the asylum.

 

[PredFan]

The GOP, which is correctly known as the stupid party, oh wow, they really did themselves in by screwing the voters in Colorado. From voters burning their GOP papers, to Rush Limbaugh saying the GOP has done itself decades of damage. Where I believe Rush is wrong is, the stupid party would be fortunate to have done themselves decades of damage, because I think the stupid party will soon be history, just like the Whig Party.

Several members of my family, and friends are leaving the GOP over this, and finally going third party. I've always been registered third party because I always knew the GOP was just as big of a pile of shit as the Democratic Party.

I truly hope this the end of the GOP, it would serve them right for decades of hating their voting base, lying to them, stabbing them in the back, betraying America.

Burn in hell GOP

It seems like every election year and even a few times in between, some doofus comes along saying: "It's the end of the GOP!" I've been hearing that since Nixon resigned.

"But this time it's different!" In 5.....4.....3......2.....

 

[Jroc]

Avatar4321

Look at Cruz's mind blowing "organization" and "work"!

This circus is an f'ing disgrace. And you have the gall to tell the people of Colorado that they should not be allowed the right to vote? **** that. My relatives didn't take bullets for this nonsense!

Trump not doing the work...


Ted Cruz Picks Up Nebraska Delegates over No Show Donald Trump

"Party officials say they saw virtually no organization by the mogul’s campaign last week when Republicans in all 93 Nebraska counties held local conventions. Those county conventions picked 800 delegates to May’s Nebraska state convention, where 33 delegates to the national convention in Cleveland will be selected,” Politico reports. “Because there was little resistance, many county conventions became Cruz pep rallies, according to interviews with party insiders and convention attendees.”

“I didn’t see any Trump supporters,” said Washington County GOP member John Orr told Politico.

“The only person there that had any kind of organization there was Cruz. No one showed up with Trump,” said former state legislator Tim Gay.

Ted Cruz Picks Up Nebraska Delegates over No Show Donald Trump - Breitbart

Oh, did Trump skip another dog an pony show? If you had half a brain, you'd be mad that Repubs are disenfranchising you. You're probably the type that loves the patriot act and can't hate Eric Snowden enough.

Sorry, Snowden and Putin aren't my heroes

Cos you're fine with the ruling tyrants. You're a useful idiot.

Why do you love Putin?

 

[Nyvin]

I'd be more pissed off at what they did in Indiana if I were a Republican.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Avatar4321

Look at Cruz's mind blowing "organization" and "work"!

This circus is an f'ing disgrace. And you have the gall to tell the people of Colorado that they should not be allowed the right to vote? **** that. My relatives didn't take bullets for this nonsense!

Trump not doing the work...


Ted Cruz Picks Up Nebraska Delegates over No Show Donald Trump

"Party officials say they saw virtually no organization by the mogul’s campaign last week when Republicans in all 93 Nebraska counties held local conventions. Those county conventions picked 800 delegates to May’s Nebraska state convention, where 33 delegates to the national convention in Cleveland will be selected,” Politico reports. “Because there was little resistance, many county conventions became Cruz pep rallies, according to interviews with party insiders and convention attendees.”

“I didn’t see any Trump supporters,” said Washington County GOP member John Orr told Politico.

“The only person there that had any kind of organization there was Cruz. No one showed up with Trump,” said former state legislator Tim Gay.

Ted Cruz Picks Up Nebraska Delegates over No Show Donald Trump - Breitbart

Oh, did Trump skip another dog an pony show? If you had half a brain, you'd be mad that Repubs are disenfranchising you. You're probably the type that loves the patriot act and can't hate Eric Snowden enough.

Sorry, Snowden and Putin aren't my heroes

Cos you're fine with the ruling tyrants. You're a useful idiot.

Why do you love Putin?

I haven't said one word about Putin, moron.

 

[Spare_change]

Uhm... Yes I can honestly make that claim because it's the truth. Colorado can change it's game plan, so can every other state party, so can the national party. Heck, the national party can change it's game plan at the convention. This has also always been the case since 1856. What has never changed is the requirement for the nominee to get a majority of delegates and not simply a plurality.

I never claimed that delegates not going to Trump were delegates against Trump. The nominee is not chosen on the basis of how many or few delegates are against them. The nominee is also not chosen on the basis of who is second most popular. Since the party's inception in 1856, it has been the candidate with a majority of delegates. There is a process to follow if no one gets the majority on the first ballot.

If the GOP based the nomination on plurality, we would have never nominated Abraham Lincoln, the GOP candidate in 1860 would have been William Seward. He had the plurality of delegates on the first ballot.... but that's not how the GOP nominates a candidate. That's not the process. They MUST get a majority, not a plurality.

Now, you Trumpettes will whine about "will of the people" and how it's not fair but the rules are a majority and not a plurality precisely because of "will of the people." If the majority of delegates support someone other than Trump, that's the will of the people. Some of the candidates they are bound to support are no longer in the race. Some have no chance of securing a majority of delegates. After the first ballot, if no one has a majority, the delegates are released from their obligation to support a specific candidate.

You'll say, but that's not fair, the people voted for the delegates and their vote should count... but that's not how political parties select candidates. The GOP is not obligated to a democratic process. This is not a "one-man-one-vote" process. Even the presidency itself is not determined on the basis of popular vote. So the GOP has a process as do the Democrats and the process will be followed as it always is. I'm sorry that so many Americans seems to be confused or lack the education to understand the process but that's life... it's not always fair.

I would think that Mr. Trump would be comfortable with a brokered convention. After all, isn't his big claim to fame his ability to cut deals and negotiate? Well, this is where that will come into play. After the first ballot, the front-runners will lobby delegates to come over to their camp. Trump has the same opportunity as Cruz, Kasich or others. The problem as I see it is, Trump hasn't made too many friends. Maybe I am wrong... maybe people deep down love Trump? Maybe Trump has the ability to apply his masterful negotiation and deal making skills in order to secure the needed delegates?

In any event, the GOP nominee will be the first person to obtain a majority of the delegates at the convention. This isn't a democratic process, it never has been. This is not the NFL playoffs or American Idol. Who people voted for has no real bearing on who the party nominates as their candidate. Just as the president is not elected by the popular vote, that's the process... that's how this works.

I'm a Trumpette because I asked you to back up the claim that a vote for anybody else was a vote against Trump? You're just trying to make facts fir your beliefs. No one said the party acted illegally, why trot out that strawman? Whether it's legal for them or not doesn't make it ethical.

Actually, Trump said the party acted illegally .... just sayin'

Where's the quote? Just sayin doesn't mean shit.

Uhm... Yes I can honestly make that claim because it's the truth. Colorado can change it's game plan, so can every other state party, so can the national party. Heck, the national party can change it's game plan at the convention. This has also always been the case since 1856. What has never changed is the requirement for the nominee to get a majority of delegates and not simply a plurality.

I never claimed that delegates not going to Trump were delegates against Trump. The nominee is not chosen on the basis of how many or few delegates are against them. The nominee is also not chosen on the basis of who is second most popular. Since the party's inception in 1856, it has been the candidate with a majority of delegates. There is a process to follow if no one gets the majority on the first ballot.

If the GOP based the nomination on plurality, we would have never nominated Abraham Lincoln, the GOP candidate in 1860 would have been William Seward. He had the plurality of delegates on the first ballot.... but that's not how the GOP nominates a candidate. That's not the process. They MUST get a majority, not a plurality.

Now, you Trumpettes will whine about "will of the people" and how it's not fair but the rules are a majority and not a plurality precisely because of "will of the people." If the majority of delegates support someone other than Trump, that's the will of the people. Some of the candidates they are bound to support are no longer in the race. Some have no chance of securing a majority of delegates. After the first ballot, if no one has a majority, the delegates are released from their obligation to support a specific candidate.

You'll say, but that's not fair, the people voted for the delegates and their vote should count... but that's not how political parties select candidates. The GOP is not obligated to a democratic process. This is not a "one-man-one-vote" process. Even the presidency itself is not determined on the basis of popular vote. So the GOP has a process as do the Democrats and the process will be followed as it always is. I'm sorry that so many Americans seems to be confused or lack the education to understand the process but that's life... it's not always fair.

I would think that Mr. Trump would be comfortable with a brokered convention. After all, isn't his big claim to fame his ability to cut deals and negotiate? Well, this is where that will come into play. After the first ballot, the front-runners will lobby delegates to come over to their camp. Trump has the same opportunity as Cruz, Kasich or others. The problem as I see it is, Trump hasn't made too many friends. Maybe I am wrong... maybe people deep down love Trump? Maybe Trump has the ability to apply his masterful negotiation and deal making skills in order to secure the needed delegates?

In any event, the GOP nominee will be the first person to obtain a majority of the delegates at the convention. This isn't a democratic process, it never has been. This is not the NFL playoffs or American Idol. Who people voted for has no real bearing on who the party nominates as their candidate. Just as the president is not elected by the popular vote, that's the process... that's how this works.

I'm a Trumpette because I asked you to back up the claim that a vote for anybody else was a vote against Trump? You're just trying to make facts fir your beliefs. No one said the party acted illegally, why trot out that strawman? Whether it's legal for them or not doesn't make it ethical.

Actually, Trump said the party acted illegally .... just sayin'

Where's the quote? Just sayin doesn't mean shit.

You have two choices .... the Republican or the Democrat.

Anything else is a waste of time and vote. Nobody says you have to love the candidate, but you should pick the one most closely aligned with your political beliefs. Vote for Hillary if you're so upset about Trump .... but don't waste your vote. That's just plain silly.

Nope. I have the choice to conscientiously object and not vote. That might result in Hillary winning. If Donald Trump is who the Republicans pick as their candidate, I am probably staying at home. I agree that I should vote for whomever aligns most closely with my political views but my political views will not be represented by either of the parties if Trump is the nominee. You see... smearing, sliming and sleazing around like a Saul Alinsky liberal is not conducive with my political views. I will not associate my name and reputation with Donald Trump by voting for him. I don't really care if you think that is silly... it's not up to you.

Trump could have easily won me over. I was prepared to support him if he won the nomination... go look up the many threads I posted to this effect. I was willing to overlook many of his shortcomings because I felt he would have been a better choice than the Democrat. My views have now changed. I don't think he would be better, I think he might actually be worse. At least, for constitutional conservatism. If he is going to set back the progress conservatives have made in recent years, I don't want him to win. I think he is too petty and divisive, he likes to denigrate and insult people who don't agree with him, he's a class A jerk and a caustic blowhole. He is also all over the board on his personal views, so I don't honestly know what he really believes. I don't trust him, I think he is pumping us full of bullshit to win.

So... Maybe what we need is 4 more years of goofy liberal policies and judicial nominations? Maybe we need our tax rates raised to ungodly levels? Maybe we need Socialist policies to kill more jobs and destroy more free market capitalism? Then, perhaps Americans can coalesce around a principled Conservative and we can begin to bring our country back?

Stay home, if you wish ... it reflects your commitment to this country and its future.

"If you don't let me win, I'm going to take my ball and go home."

That's not what not voting means. You're just a dumb asshole trying to criticize others.

That's EXACTLY what it means ... "If you don't do what I like, I just won't play ---waah, waah, waah". It's all about you, isn't it?

As for the childish personal attack ... well done. You've definitely demonstrated your immaturity.

I asked where the quote was since you said Trump said the party acted illegally and you stuffed your head up your ass and claimed victory instead.

LOL, you stupid asshole, I call em the way I see em!

Let's take it one step at a time ...

1) Your pedantic little rant - not even an original ("stupid asshole" - THAT's the best you got?) was both pathetic and childish. I watch you and others - when lacking an honest position - resort to these immature little attacks as if yelling louder makes you right. Grow the hell up.

2) At the GOP meeting in New York, Trump accused the RNC of rigging the rules so that he couldn't get nominated - despite the fact that the rules have been in place for years. He went further and attacked the RNC of attempting to deny people the right to vote - an amazingly naive, childish, and ever so incorrect understanding of the party rules. Oh, and by the way, that's accusing them of a crime.

3) People like you, whose magnitude of ignorance never ceases to amaze, listen to a single sound byte, and then come on here and try to position yourself as a know-all, be-all expert, when in fact, all you do is demonstrate the amazing depth of your ignorance. You don't even KNOW how foolish you make yourself look. A discussion with you is like playing in a mud puddle - it isn't very deep and you're just going to get dirty.

4) Now, you will notice that I called you out, and I didn't use a single vulgarity or obscene word. Do yourself a favor - you won't look like such an idiot if you try to use the same technique, assuming of course that you know more than 3 non-vulgar, non-obscene words. I strongly suspect you don't.

 

[Iceweasel]

I'm a Trumpette because I asked you to back up the claim that a vote for anybody else was a vote against Trump? You're just trying to make facts fir your beliefs. No one said the party acted illegally, why trot out that strawman? Whether it's legal for them or not doesn't make it ethical.

Actually, Trump said the party acted illegally .... just sayin'

Where's the quote? Just sayin doesn't mean shit.

I'm a Trumpette because I asked you to back up the claim that a vote for anybody else was a vote against Trump? You're just trying to make facts fir your beliefs. No one said the party acted illegally, why trot out that strawman? Whether it's legal for them or not doesn't make it ethical.

Actually, Trump said the party acted illegally .... just sayin'

Where's the quote? Just sayin doesn't mean shit.

Nope. I have the choice to conscientiously object and not vote. That might result in Hillary winning. If Donald Trump is who the Republicans pick as their candidate, I am probably staying at home. I agree that I should vote for whomever aligns most closely with my political views but my political views will not be represented by either of the parties if Trump is the nominee. You see... smearing, sliming and sleazing around like a Saul Alinsky liberal is not conducive with my political views. I will not associate my name and reputation with Donald Trump by voting for him. I don't really care if you think that is silly... it's not up to you.

Trump could have easily won me over. I was prepared to support him if he won the nomination... go look up the many threads I posted to this effect. I was willing to overlook many of his shortcomings because I felt he would have been a better choice than the Democrat. My views have now changed. I don't think he would be better, I think he might actually be worse. At least, for constitutional conservatism. If he is going to set back the progress conservatives have made in recent years, I don't want him to win. I think he is too petty and divisive, he likes to denigrate and insult people who don't agree with him, he's a class A jerk and a caustic blowhole. He is also all over the board on his personal views, so I don't honestly know what he really believes. I don't trust him, I think he is pumping us full of bullshit to win.

So... Maybe what we need is 4 more years of goofy liberal policies and judicial nominations? Maybe we need our tax rates raised to ungodly levels? Maybe we need Socialist policies to kill more jobs and destroy more free market capitalism? Then, perhaps Americans can coalesce around a principled Conservative and we can begin to bring our country back?

Stay home, if you wish ... it reflects your commitment to this country and its future.

"If you don't let me win, I'm going to take my ball and go home."

That's not what not voting means. You're just a dumb asshole trying to criticize others.

That's EXACTLY what it means ... "If you don't do what I like, I just won't play ---waah, waah, waah". It's all about you, isn't it?

As for the childish personal attack ... well done. You've definitely demonstrated your immaturity.

I asked where the quote was since you said Trump said the party acted illegally and you stuffed your head up your ass and claimed victory instead.

LOL, you stupid asshole, I call em the way I see em!

Let's take it one step at a time ...

1) Your pedantic little rant - not even an original ("stupid asshole" - THAT's the best you got?) was both pathetic and childish. I watch you and others - when lacking an honest position - resort to these immature little attacks as if yelling louder makes you right. Grow the hell up.

2) At the GOP meeting in New York, Trump accused the RNC of rigging the rules so that he couldn't get nominated - despite the fact that the rules have been in place for years. He went further and attacked the RNC of attempting to deny people the right to vote - an amazingly naive, childish, and ever so incorrect understanding of the party rules. Oh, and by the way, that's accusing them of a crime.

3) People like you, whose magnitude of ignorance never ceases to amaze, listen to a single sound byte, and then come on here and try to position yourself as a know-all, be-all expert, when in fact, all you do is demonstrate the amazing depth of your ignorance. You don't even KNOW how foolish you make yourself look. A discussion with you is like playing in a mud puddle - it isn't very deep and you're just going to get dirty.

4) Now, you will notice that I called you out, and I didn't use a single vulgarity or obscene word. Do yourself a favor - you won't look like such an idiot if you try to use the same technique, assuming of course that you know more than 3 non-vulgar, non-obscene words. I strongly suspect you don't.

I made it pretty clear I don't give a **** what you opinion is, and here you are offering even more as if this one was going to make a difference? I called you a stupid asshole for a reason. Preening your anus on a message board is supposed to do what for you????

You said "Actually, Trump said the party acted illegally .... just sayin'" so I asked for for the quote and so far you still haven't provided it but chose this method instead. That doesn't cut it.

The GOP's position is that the system isn't rigged because the corrupt way they do things to put the establishment pick in office is known in advance. Calling it rigged is dead on since it's designed to favor a minority making the decision. I don't know what Trump knew, unlike yourself. For all I know he might be using it to hammer home the point that they don't want an outsider and wasn't going to get those delegates anyway so it's to his advantage to put the spot light on it instead.

If you find the quote where he said it was illegal, as per your earlier claim, post it up. Otherwise go play with your asshole somewhere else.

 

[Spare_change]

Actually, Trump said the party acted illegally .... just sayin'

Where's the quote? Just sayin doesn't mean shit.

Actually, Trump said the party acted illegally .... just sayin'

Where's the quote? Just sayin doesn't mean shit.

Stay home, if you wish ... it reflects your commitment to this country and its future.

"If you don't let me win, I'm going to take my ball and go home."

That's not what not voting means. You're just a dumb asshole trying to criticize others.

That's EXACTLY what it means ... "If you don't do what I like, I just won't play ---waah, waah, waah". It's all about you, isn't it?

As for the childish personal attack ... well done. You've definitely demonstrated your immaturity.

I asked where the quote was since you said Trump said the party acted illegally and you stuffed your head up your ass and claimed victory instead.

LOL, you stupid asshole, I call em the way I see em!

Let's take it one step at a time ...

1) Your pedantic little rant - not even an original ("stupid asshole" - THAT's the best you got?) was both pathetic and childish. I watch you and others - when lacking an honest position - resort to these immature little attacks as if yelling louder makes you right. Grow the hell up.

2) At the GOP meeting in New York, Trump accused the RNC of rigging the rules so that he couldn't get nominated - despite the fact that the rules have been in place for years. He went further and attacked the RNC of attempting to deny people the right to vote - an amazingly naive, childish, and ever so incorrect understanding of the party rules. Oh, and by the way, that's accusing them of a crime.

3) People like you, whose magnitude of ignorance never ceases to amaze, listen to a single sound byte, and then come on here and try to position yourself as a know-all, be-all expert, when in fact, all you do is demonstrate the amazing depth of your ignorance. You don't even KNOW how foolish you make yourself look. A discussion with you is like playing in a mud puddle - it isn't very deep and you're just going to get dirty.

4) Now, you will notice that I called you out, and I didn't use a single vulgarity or obscene word. Do yourself a favor - you won't look like such an idiot if you try to use the same technique, assuming of course that you know more than 3 non-vulgar, non-obscene words. I strongly suspect you don't.

I made it pretty clear I don't give a **** what you opinion is, and here you are offering even more as if this one was going to make a difference? I called you a stupid asshole for a reason. Preening your anus on a message board is supposed to do what for you????

You said "Actually, Trump said the party acted illegally .... just sayin'" so I asked for for the quote and so far you still haven't provided it but chose this method instead. That doesn't cut it.

The GOP's position is that the system isn't rigged because the corrupt way they do things to put the establishment pick in office is known in advance. Calling it rigged is dead on since it's designed to favor a minority making the decision. I don't know what Trump knew, unlike yourself. For all I know he might be using it to hammer home the point that they don't want an outsider and wasn't going to get those delegates anyway so it's to his advantage to put the spot light on it instead.

If you find the quote where he said it was illegal, as per your earlier claim, post it up. Otherwise go play with your asshole somewhere else.

LOL --- this is like playing marbles with somebody who doesn't have any. Did you lose them recently, or has this been an ongoing problem?

But, I will admit ---- you captured the essence of the issue in three words "I don't know..." You have demonstrated that very well, thank you.

 

[oreo]

HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED IN COLORADO:

I am a Coloradoan--and remember this well. Last year when the State Legislature was in session--Republican (State Senator Kevin Grantham) sponsored a bill to get a Presidential primary installed for 2016. Democrats were on board with it, and it was actually the sponsor of the bill, Kevin Grantham, that backed out and wouldn't let it come up for a vote. In fact it was 4 Republican State senators that wouldn't let it get out of the appropriations committee for a vote. It's one of those they supported it at first, and then they didn't. I assume they backed out of it because of special interest groups were putting the pressure on them to keep the caucus system as it.
Colorado GOP flubs chance for 2016 presidential primary
Frontloading HQ: Colorado Presidential Primary Bill Dies in Committee

Now since it's turned into a disaster--Breitbart news has decided to out them.
Revealed: Colorado Lawmakers Who Voted to Scrap Election Are Ted Cruz Delegates - Breitbart

They are Colorado state Senators, Kevin Grantham, Laura Woods, Jerry Sonnenberg & Kent Lambert.

The caucus is the worst case example of voter disenfranchisement in this country today, that is still operational. In fact, I am surprised that no one has challenged it's use in a Presidential primary. It disenfranchises so many. Overseas military, the elderly, those who are sick, young parents with children who can't get a babysitter to sit around a 3 hour meeting to cast a vote, and those who work during the caucus time period. Usually producing very low voter participation--and typically in Colorado less that 1% of either party shows up to participate. Caucus states are great at picking who the loser will be, and are full of far left or far right candidate supporters, that in no way represents the majority sentiment of either party.

It's time Colorado went back to a Presidential primary. If you're a Coloradoan you can join "Kill the caucus" from your Facebook page, and by pushing the like button you can stay informed as to what is going on in Colorado. Here is that link: Kill the Caucus

 

[Spare_change]

HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED IN COLORADO:

I am a Coloradoan--and remember this well. Last year when the State Legislature was in session--Republican (State Senator Kevin Grantham) sponsored a bill to get a Presidential primary installed for 2016. Democrats were on board with it, and it was actually the sponsor of the bill, Kevin Grantham, that backed out and wouldn't let it come up for a vote. In fact it was 4 Republican State senators that wouldn't let it get out of the appropriations committee for a vote. It's one of those they supported it at first, and then they didn't. I assume they backed out of it because of special interest groups were putting the pressure on them to keep the caucus system as it.
Colorado GOP flubs chance for 2016 presidential primary
Frontloading HQ: Colorado Presidential Primary Bill Dies in Committee

Now since it's turned into a disaster--Breitbart news has decided to out them.
Revealed: Colorado Lawmakers Who Voted to Scrap Election Are Ted Cruz Delegates - Breitbart

They are Colorado state Senators, Kevin Grantham, Laura Woods, Jerry Sonnenberg & Kent Lambert.

The caucus is the worst case example of voter disenfranchisement in this country today, that is still operational. In fact, I am surprised that no one has challenged it's use in a Presidential primary. It disenfranchises so many. Overseas military, the elderly, those who are sick, young parents with children who can't get a babysitter to sit around a 3 hour meeting to cast a vote, and those who work during the caucus time period. Usually producing very low voter participation--and typically in Colorado less that 1% of either party shows up to participate. Caucus states are great at picking who the loser will be, and are full of far left or far right candidate supporters, that in no way represents the majority sentiment of either party.

It's time Colorado went back to a Presidential primary. If you're a Coloradoan you can join "Kill the caucus" from your Facebook page, and by pushing the like button you can stay informed as to what is going on in Colorado. Here is that link: Kill the Caucus

You've done a fine job of explaining WHAT happened, but you haven't touched on WHY it happened ...

The actual truth is that both parties were being overhelmed by liberals in Denver. Those who live in outlying areas were being completely consumed by the vote in Denver (where most of the population lives). The delegate allocation was changed for two purposes: 1) to lessen the override by liberal Denver Republicans (whose idea of being conservative is to have latte with almond milk instead of soy milk). and 2) to give the "rural" Coloradans a greater say.

If we were to use the 'popular vote' approach, we again would be overhelmed by the Denver population, much as would happen with elimination of the electoral college. So, we selected the delegate (by district) approach. On caucus night, people who want to be delegates stand up and profess their beliefs, who they favor, what issue positions they support - and the people in attendance (it's open to all registered Republicans) VOTE for the delegate they wish to represent their district.

It is true that there is no restriction placed on the delegates - conceivably, they could present themselves as Trump supporters and then vote for Cruz, but that is highly unlikely. Coloradans are reputable and honest - and if we say it, we mean it. This isn't New York - we don't need a contract to force us to do the right thing. A man's word is good enough for us.

So - I suggest that all you people who are so suddenly concerned about those poor Coloradans just relax. We got it well in hand .... and, frankly, resent your intrusion.

As for Trump, he's a whiner ... oh yeah, he's from New York, too. More of those New York values, I guess. Where I come from, if you don't win, you shake the other guy's hand, compliment him on his effort, and go home. Maybe Trump needs some Colorado values.

 

[Iceweasel]

Where's the quote? Just sayin doesn't mean shit.

Where's the quote? Just sayin doesn't mean shit.

That's not what not voting means. You're just a dumb asshole trying to criticize others.

That's EXACTLY what it means ... "If you don't do what I like, I just won't play ---waah, waah, waah". It's all about you, isn't it?

As for the childish personal attack ... well done. You've definitely demonstrated your immaturity.

I asked where the quote was since you said Trump said the party acted illegally and you stuffed your head up your ass and claimed victory instead.

LOL, you stupid asshole, I call em the way I see em!

Let's take it one step at a time ...

1) Your pedantic little rant - not even an original ("stupid asshole" - THAT's the best you got?) was both pathetic and childish. I watch you and others - when lacking an honest position - resort to these immature little attacks as if yelling louder makes you right. Grow the hell up.

2) At the GOP meeting in New York, Trump accused the RNC of rigging the rules so that he couldn't get nominated - despite the fact that the rules have been in place for years. He went further and attacked the RNC of attempting to deny people the right to vote - an amazingly naive, childish, and ever so incorrect understanding of the party rules. Oh, and by the way, that's accusing them of a crime.

3) People like you, whose magnitude of ignorance never ceases to amaze, listen to a single sound byte, and then come on here and try to position yourself as a know-all, be-all expert, when in fact, all you do is demonstrate the amazing depth of your ignorance. You don't even KNOW how foolish you make yourself look. A discussion with you is like playing in a mud puddle - it isn't very deep and you're just going to get dirty.

4) Now, you will notice that I called you out, and I didn't use a single vulgarity or obscene word. Do yourself a favor - you won't look like such an idiot if you try to use the same technique, assuming of course that you know more than 3 non-vulgar, non-obscene words. I strongly suspect you don't.

I made it pretty clear I don't give a **** what you opinion is, and here you are offering even more as if this one was going to make a difference? I called you a stupid asshole for a reason. Preening your anus on a message board is supposed to do what for you????

You said "Actually, Trump said the party acted illegally .... just sayin'" so I asked for for the quote and so far you still haven't provided it but chose this method instead. That doesn't cut it.

The GOP's position is that the system isn't rigged because the corrupt way they do things to put the establishment pick in office is known in advance. Calling it rigged is dead on since it's designed to favor a minority making the decision. I don't know what Trump knew, unlike yourself. For all I know he might be using it to hammer home the point that they don't want an outsider and wasn't going to get those delegates anyway so it's to his advantage to put the spot light on it instead.

If you find the quote where he said it was illegal, as per your earlier claim, post it up. Otherwise go play with your asshole somewhere else.

LOL --- this is like playing marbles with somebody who doesn't have any. Did you lose them recently, or has this been an ongoing problem?

But, I will admit ---- you captured the essence of the issue in three words "I don't know..." You have demonstrated that very well, thank you.

Here he is fondling his anus again! Where is the quote that Trump said the election process is illegal? You could have found it and posted it instead of thumping your chest and claiming victory. Therefore you are full of shit.

 

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The handling of Colorado's delegate selection was decided 8 months ago. Why wasn't Trump prepared for this?

Especially since he ripped Santorum in 2012 over this. Makes me wonder if the theory that he didn't really want to win and is not trying to lose while claiming he won to save his image and lose the race to hillary has some merit

 

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I don't think it's impossible, but it's also not impossible that the Republicans get annihilated with Trump at the top of the ticket, with the GOP losing both the House and the Dems winning 60+ seats in the Senate.

Yes, both are very real possibilities. The Democrats could nip this in the bud by nominating Bernie, but they probably won't.

You talk about your family, the circle I run in are mostly educated to highly educated, and most are Republicans. Most are typical suburban voters. And most are horrified by a Trump candidacy. Most won't vote for him. They'll either stay home or vote for Hillary.

Again, it's shitheads like the circles you run in who have fucked it all up for the rest of us, hence why Bernie and Trump are a thing. Neither of these jokers would have been taken seriously 8 years ago, but now they are. The thing is, there are more people out there like folks in my family than the shareholder class that votes its portfolio.

Theres a LOT of anger out there. If Cruz wins the nomination, it will be because the establishment gave up. It's another case of putting up a ringer to avoid a populist.

There isn't much evidence that Trump can swing the election with new voters. The polls, if anything, have been overestimating his support in the primaries. He's trailing Hillary by 10 points amongst married white women, a cohort Romney won easily. There simply aren't enough white guys for Trump to win.

Again, you cite polls leaving out the high levels of undecideds. I don't think that a lot of "Girl Power" is going to show up for Hillary. Women are just to catty to each other.

Now, I don't like Trump, wouldn't vote for him, but I know a lot of people who will.

And I know a lot of people who won't.

Regarding polls, it's still six months out and things can change, but when polls show us things over and over again, we have to take those things seriously.

In the primaries - forget the caucuses - Trump has either been coming in at or below his polling numbers. Voters who are deciding in the last few days are voting overwhelmingly for someone else. He has a bedrock of support amongst a minority of voters but isn't expanding much beyond that. His negatives amongst Republican women have gone up during the election, with nearly half having a negative view of him.

Something has to change for Trump, because if this keeps going, the GOP are going to get crushed.

I suggest that change be he leaves the race and goes home so the conservative wing can take over.

 

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You're parroting Levin, I like Mark Levin, but I'm never going to set back, and let Hillary appoint our next 3 supreme court justices without a fight ..I'll going door to door for Trump if he the nominee.

I didn't think I was either. I hate what might happen with the courts, it will affect this nation for the next 50-100 years. Hillary's policies will be a total disaster. That said, I am not going to support Donald Trump. After the things he has done, I can't bring myself to do that. Like I said, I wish that I could... I wanted to... I tried to. He has literally pushed me to the point that I cannot support him anymore.... that's all HIM baby, and his dumbass supporters. It's too late to undo the damage... the "lyin' ted" thing was the last straw. I'm done and I am not coming back... nominate him if you want to, you'll have to get him elected without my vote.

The formula is real simple.

If you don't actively help the Republican candidate (whomever he might be) get elected, you are tacitly helping Hillary get elected.

You can't sit on the sidelines ... the price is too high.

Remind the trump supporters of this when Cruz wins

 

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The handling of Colorado's delegate selection was decided 8 months ago. Why wasn't Trump prepared for this?

Especially since he ripped Santorum in 2012 over this. Makes me wonder if the theory that he didn't really want to win and is not trying to lose while claiming he won to save his image and lose the race to hillary has some merit

Trump really scares you libs doesn't he?

 

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You're parroting Levin, I like Mark Levin, but I'm never going to set back, and let Hillary appoint our next 3 supreme court justices without a fight ..I'll going door to door for Trump if he the nominee.

I didn't think I was either. I hate what might happen with the courts, it will affect this nation for the next 50-100 years. Hillary's policies will be a total disaster. That said, I am not going to support Donald Trump. After the things he has done, I can't bring myself to do that. Like I said, I wish that I could... I wanted to... I tried to. He has literally pushed me to the point that I cannot support him anymore.... that's all HIM baby, and his dumbass supporters. It's too late to undo the damage... the "lyin' ted" thing was the last straw. I'm done and I am not coming back... nominate him if you want to, you'll have to get him elected without my vote.

The formula is real simple.

If you don't actively help the Republican candidate (whomever he might be) get elected, you are tacitly helping Hillary get elected.

You can't sit on the sidelines ... the price is too high.

Remind the trump supporters of this when Cruz wins

Trump is supported by conservatves, independents, republicans, and intelligent democrats, Cruz only by right wing conservatives, Trump will be the nominee, Cruz or Kasich would be smart to cut a deal to be his VP.

 

[Avatar4321]

The handling of Colorado's delegate selection was decided 8 months ago. Why wasn't Trump prepared for this?

Especially since he ripped Santorum in 2012 over this. Makes me wonder if the theory that he didn't really want to win and is not trying to lose while claiming he won to save his image and lose the race to hillary has some merit

Trump really scares you libs doesn't he?

I'm not a lib. You know this. Why do you feel the need to pretend otherwise. I oppose trump because he is a progressive and an authoritarian.

 

[Redfish]

The handling of Colorado's delegate selection was decided 8 months ago. Why wasn't Trump prepared for this?

Especially since he ripped Santorum in 2012 over this. Makes me wonder if the theory that he didn't really want to win and is not trying to lose while claiming he won to save his image and lose the race to hillary has some merit

Trump really scares you libs doesn't he?

I'm not a lib. You know this. Why do you feel the need to pretend otherwise. I oppose trump because he is a progressive and an authoritarian.

If it comes down to Trump vs Clinton, how will you vote?