Zone1 Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf

Mortimer

Let me try to expain you something what nearly all people are doing wrong when they speak about Hitler and world war 2: They believe in a word of Hitler.

The father of Joachhim Fest (who had been the first German historian who had been able to make a biography of Hitler - what not had been easy) said about Hitler in the time of Hitler: "Hitler is such a damn good liar - so even the opposites of his lies are lies again". Hitler himselve said by the way that he had learned to lie from the US-American presidents. ... A lie? ... Whatever.

I do not know for example how often I read in my life that Adolf Hitler loved the books of Karl May. The only source for this statement? Adolf Hitler. I on my own read all books of Karl May and so I am absolutelly sure Hitler never read only one of his books. Nothing in Hitlers behavior fits only a little with one of the famous heroes in this fantasy stories which Karl May published as travel reports - maybe in the tradition of Jonathan Swift. Before Karl May wrote his travel reports he never was in the countries which he visited in his fantasy. Nevertheless his stories are as realitic as if he had been really there. Still his imagination of "Winnetou" is one of the most fascinating imaginations of Red Indians. And in his time of history for sure no one had called Karl May a racist; Sure he also used stereotypes of the 19th century - he was a child of the19th century - but never anyone had called Karl May a racist. Today only superidiots do so who never read what he really wrote. He was influenced from the idea of "the noble wild man" (human beings are created from god and so they are good when they live as wildes in a more natural way). What he wrote about Red Indians he had been also able to write about ancient Germans. But this would not had been as fascinating for us Germans. He tried to imagine what had happened in other countries and Karl May showed very well: The best aeroplane is the own fantasy. But it is perhaps very good to know the difference between fantasy and reality.
I say: Hitler never read the books of Karl May - but to say "I read Karl May" made him to be like all other Germans. But he was not like all other Germans! He became step by step and more and more someone or something what no one really is able to understand. So do not try to find wrong explanations. Specially not the wrong explanations which Hitler gave on his own.

 
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Mortimer

Let me try to expain you something what nearly all people are doing wrong when they speak about Hitler and world war 2: They believe in a word of Hitler.

The father of Joachhim Fest (who had been the first German historian who had been able to make a biography of Hitler - what not had been easy) said about Hitler in the time of Hitler: "Hitler is such a damn good liar - so even the opposites of his lies are lies again". Hitler himselve said by the way that he had learned to lie from the US-American presidents. ... A lie? ... Whatever.

I do not know for example how often I read in my life that Adolf Hitler loved the books of Karl May. The only source for this statement? Adolf Hitler. I on my own read all books of Karl May and so I am absolutelly sure Hitler never read only one of his books. Nothing in Hitlers behavior fits only a little with one of the famous heroes in this fantasy stories which Karl May published as travel reports - maybe in the tradition of Jonathan Swift. Before Karl May wrote his travel reports he never was in the countries which he visited in his fantasy. Nevertheless his stories are as realitic as if he had been really there. Still his imagination of "Winnetou" is one of the most fascinating imaginations of Red Indians. And in his time of history for sure no one had called Karl May a racist; Sure he also used stereotypes of the 19th century - he was a child of the19th century - but never anyone had called Karl May a racist. Today only superidiots do so who never read what he really wrote. He was influenced from the idea of "the noble wild man" (human beings are created from god and so they are good when they live as wildes in a more natural way). What he wrote about Red Indians he had been also able to write about ancient Germans. But this would not had been as fascinating for us Germans. He tried to imagine what had happened in other countries and Karl May showed very well: The best aeroplane is the own fantasy. But it is perhaps very good to know the difference between fantasy and reality.
I say: Hitler never read the books of Karl May - but to say "I read Karl May" made him to be like all other Germans. But he was not like all other Germans! He became step by step and more and more someone or something what no one really is able to understand. So do not try to find wrong explanations. Specially not the wrong explanations which Hitler gave on his own.


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Mortimer

Let me try to expain you something what nearly all people are doing wrong when they speak about Hitler and world war 2: They believe in a word of Hitler.

The father of Joachhim Fest (who had been the first German historian who had been able to make a biography of Hitler - what not had been easy) said about Hitler in the time of Hitler: "Hitler is such a damn good liar - so even the opposites of his lies are lies again". Hitler himselve said by the way that he had learned to lie from the US-American presidents. ... A lie? ... Whatever.

I do not know for example how often I read in my life that Adolf Hitler loved the books of Karl May. The only source for this statement? Adolf Hitler. I on my own read all books of Karl May and so I am absolutelly sure Hitler never read only one of his books. Nothing in Hitlers behavior fits only a little with one of the famous heroes in this fantasy stories which Karl May published as travel reports - maybe in the tradition of Jonathan Swift. Before Karl May wrote his travel reports he never was in the countries which he visited in his fantasy. Nevertheless his stories are as realitic as if he had been really there. Still his imagination of "Winnetou" is one of the most fascinating imaginations of Red Indians. And in his time of history for sure no one had called Karl May a racist; Sure he also used stereotypes of the 19th century - he was a child of the19th century - but never anyone had called Karl May a racist. Today only superidiots do so who never read what he really wrote. He was influenced from the idea of "the noble wild man" (human beings are created from god and so they are good when they live as wildes in a more natural way). What he wrote about Red Indians he had been also able to write about ancient Germans. But this would not had been as fascinating for us Germans. He tried to imagine what had happened in other countries and Karl May showed very well: The best aeroplane is the own fantasy. But it is perhaps very good to know the difference between fantasy and reality.
I say: Hitler never read the books of Karl May - but to say "I read Karl May" made him to be like all other Germans. But he was not like all other Germans! He became step by step and more and more someone or something what no one really is able to understand. So do not try to find wrong explanations. Specially not the wrong explanations which Hitler gave on his own.


Indians didn't use bits on their horses. That is some inhospitable looking land there.
 
Indians didn't use bits on their horses. That is some inhospitable looking land there.

Why do you say such a bullshit to me? Horses died out in America when the first human beings came to America. They came back with the European seddlers. And no one imagines Red Indians in the North of America without horses. In general Germans always loved Red
Indians because of their natural way to live who remembers us to our own natural way how we lived once. European Celts and Germanics also had been organized in naturally grown nations and tribes.

Old Shatterhand got the horse Hatatitla (="Hatáhtitláh" =flash) from Winnetou (whose horse was called Iltschi (="Iltshi"=wind) after they became blood brothers (=brothers from the same spirit). Part of this same spirit had been their horses and their weapons. The analogy you can see for example in the sword "Excalibur". The big question of Karl May had been: Will the Red Indians be able to survive? In the end - what he was not able to know - also we Germans will not survive the US-Americans. We are the dead Red Indians of the future since you said about us "the only good German I saw was dead".

 
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Why do you say such a bullshit to me? Horses died out in America when the first human beings came to America. They came back with the European seddlers. And no one imagines Red Indians in the North of America without horses. In general Germans always loved Red
Indians because of their natural way to live who remebers us to our own natural way hwo we lived once. European Celts and Germanics also had been organized in naturally grown nations and tribes.
Because Indians didn't use bits on their horses. It's a fact! No, horses did not die out in America ever! There's still wild horses out west.
 
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Because Indians didn't use bits on their horses. It's a fact! No, horses did not die out in America ever! There's still wild horses out west.

Horses evolved in the Americas around four million years ago, but by about 10,000 years ago, they had mostly disappeared from the fossil record, per the Conversation. Spanish settlers likely first brought horses back to the Americas in 1519, when Hernán Cortés arrived on the continent in Mexico. Per the new paper, Indigenous peoples then transported horses north along trade networks.

Source: New Research Rewrites the History of American Horses


 
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The Duke

The films about Winnetou had been for everyone very dissapointing who read the books of Karl May before. Winnetou, for example, had a kind of blue-black braided full head of hair that was styled upwards, if I remember correctly. Not the fault of the actors and the music of the films is really great.
The film was not made for Red Indians. It was made for Germans on reason not to hate the USA after world war 1+2. That's why the "English" Americans are interpreted very positive. In his original books the good German seddlers and the lost fight for the survival of the Red Indians in the USA had been in the middle of his story. In his days many US-Americans still spoke German. This changed rapidly with the First World War.
 
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