A U.S. return to Bagram isn’t a bad idea

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A U.S. return to Bagram isn’t a bad idea

The abandoned airfield in Afghanistan was once a symbol of American power. Trump wants it back.

20 Sep 2025 ~~ By Editorial Board

For nearly 20 years, the Bagram air base stood as the sprawling symbol of American power in Afghanistan and as the heart of the long U.S. military intervention there. The Biden administration secretly evacuated the base on July 1, 2021, a few weeks ahead of its chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan. The Afghan army left in control of the base surrendered to the Taliban.
Now, President Donald Trump says he wants Bagram back. “We gave it to them for nothing,” he said in in London on Thursday. “We’re trying to get it back, by the way. … We’re trying to get it back because they need things from us.” Good. Bagram is worth pursuing, though not at any cost.Bagram is strategically important because of its proximity to the border with China and to a nuclear testing range at Lop Nur in a remote part of Xinjiang province. The testing range was long believed abandoned, but there have been reports of increased Chinese military construction activities in the area.
An American military presence at Bagram would also allow the U.S. to conduct counterterrorism operations in a volatile region against the Islamic State-Khorasan terrorist group, which is also at war with the Taliban and has also spread its tentacles into Europe.
What the Taliban wants most from the U.S. is recognition. The country’s seat at the United Nations is still held by the former government. The Taliban would also like to access $7 billion in assets frozen in the U.S. to boost its flagging economy.
Taliban officials don’t sound eager for American troops to return to Bagram. “Afghans...”


Commentary:
One of the worst of the long list incompetent acts of the Biden Administration that cost American lives in the process, was to “evacuate Bagram” first. Trump’s plan was to keep it.
At this point, negotiating a deal would not be in the offing and the recapture of Bagram AFB would be necessary.
That would mean putting our military on the firing line once again...
I don't believe that Trump would want to take that route to retake Bagram AFB...
IMHO, the issue is mute and just a wish on Trump's part.
Former Generals Mark Milley, Lloyd Austin and those in the State Department should be held responsible and the former generals cashiered from the military for their roles in the botched evacuation of Bagram AFB and Afghanistan...

 

A U.S. return to Bagram isn’t a bad idea

The abandoned airfield in Afghanistan was once a symbol of American power. Trump wants it back.

20 Sep 2025 ~~ By Editorial Board

For nearly 20 years, the Bagram air base stood as the sprawling symbol of American power in Afghanistan and as the heart of the long U.S. military intervention there. The Biden administration secretly evacuated the base on July 1, 2021, a few weeks ahead of its chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan. The Afghan army left in control of the base surrendered to the Taliban.
Now, President Donald Trump says he wants Bagram back. “We gave it to them for nothing,” he said in in London on Thursday. “We’re trying to get it back, by the way. … We’re trying to get it back because they need things from us.” Good. Bagram is worth pursuing, though not at any cost.Bagram is strategically important because of its proximity to the border with China and to a nuclear testing range at Lop Nur in a remote part of Xinjiang province. The testing range was long believed abandoned, but there have been reports of increased Chinese military construction activities in the area.
An American military presence at Bagram would also allow the U.S. to conduct counterterrorism operations in a volatile region against the Islamic State-Khorasan terrorist group, which is also at war with the Taliban and has also spread its tentacles into Europe.
What the Taliban wants most from the U.S. is recognition. The country’s seat at the United Nations is still held by the former government. The Taliban would also like to access $7 billion in assets frozen in the U.S. to boost its flagging economy.
Taliban officials don’t sound eager for American troops to return to Bagram. “Afghans...”


Commentary:
One of the worst of the long list incompetent acts of the Biden Administration that cost American lives in the process, was to “evacuate Bagram” first. Trump’s plan was to keep it.
At this point, negotiating a deal would not be in the offing and the recapture of Bagram AFB would be necessary.
That would mean putting our military on the firing line once again...
I don't believe that Trump would want to take that route to retake Bagram AFB...
IMHO, the issue is mute and just a wish on Trump's part.
Former Generals Mark Milley, Lloyd Austin and those in the State Department should be held responsible and the former generals cashiered from the military for their roles in the botched evacuation of Bagram AFB and Afghanistan...

Wrong. It is a very bad idea. There has been enough profiteering, trying to create and control the political future of that country. I am glad we are out, and am firmly against going back.
 
Wrong. It is a very bad idea. There has been enough profiteering, trying to create and control the political future of that country. I am glad we are out, and am firmly against going back.
How does controlling a forward controlled base near China hurt America? This isn't another trillion dollar war it is control of a base.

Those of us who follow America and are even LESS an enemy than SO many in the U.S understand what is at stake.

If you can secure the location and it improves Americas ability to respond, take it, period.
 
Threaten to cut off all Funding from Western Countries & Corporations and to destroy the Opium Trade .
 
How does controlling a forward controlled base near China hurt America? This isn't another trillion dollar war it is control of a base.

Those of us who follow America and are even LESS an enemy than SO many in the U.S understand what is at stake.

If you can secure the location and it improves Americas ability to respond, take it, period.
Whatever gave you the idea, we needed to to project power, around the world. We just bombed the crap out of nuclear facilities in Iran, with planes that took off here, did their mission, than landed here, in time for dinner at the O Club. We have the largest fleet of aircraft carriers in the world, on mission, around the world, none of them involved in politics of a particular foreign regime. Your strategic supposed need does not hold water.
 
Whatever gave you the idea, we needed to to project power, around the world. We just bombed the crap out of nuclear facilities in Iran, with planes that took off here, did their mission, than landed here, in time for dinner at the O Club. We have the largest fleet of aircraft carriers in the world, on mission, around the world, none of them involved in politics of a particular foreign regime. Your strategic supposed need does not hold water.
Build the Base in Tajikistan or Uzbekistan or Northern India or Azerbaijan or Armenia or …
 
Whatever gave you the idea, we needed to to project power, around the world. We just bombed the crap out of nuclear facilities in Iran, with planes that took off here, did their mission, than landed here, in time for dinner at the O Club. We have the largest fleet of aircraft carriers in the world, on mission, around the world, none of them involved in politics of a particular foreign regime. Your strategic supposed need does not hold water.
You don;t need to "project" you need to hem your enemies in and make them think twice about any military adventures.

We have become numb to the realities of evil since WWII. I'd prefer America lead the world compared to others.

Call me what you'd like, I'm a student of history
 
Build the Base in Tajikistan or Uzbekistan or Northern India or Azerbaijan or Armenia or …
Who needs it? We don't. Sure it would be a boon to local business there, their government, and American Construction companies that would build the base and supply it, but totally unnecessary.
 

A U.S. return to Bagram isn’t a bad idea

The abandoned airfield in Afghanistan was once a symbol of American power. Trump wants it back.

20 Sep 2025 ~~ By Editorial Board

For nearly 20 years, the Bagram air base stood as the sprawling symbol of American power in Afghanistan and as the heart of the long U.S. military intervention there. The Biden administration secretly evacuated the base on July 1, 2021, a few weeks ahead of its chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan. The Afghan army left in control of the base surrendered to the Taliban.
Now, President Donald Trump says he wants Bagram back. “We gave it to them for nothing,” he said in in London on Thursday. “We’re trying to get it back, by the way. … We’re trying to get it back because they need things from us.” Good. Bagram is worth pursuing, though not at any cost.Bagram is strategically important because of its proximity to the border with China and to a nuclear testing range at Lop Nur in a remote part of Xinjiang province. The testing range was long believed abandoned, but there have been reports of increased Chinese military construction activities in the area.
An American military presence at Bagram would also allow the U.S. to conduct counterterrorism operations in a volatile region against the Islamic State-Khorasan terrorist group, which is also at war with the Taliban and has also spread its tentacles into Europe.
What the Taliban wants most from the U.S. is recognition. The country’s seat at the United Nations is still held by the former government. The Taliban would also like to access $7 billion in assets frozen in the U.S. to boost its flagging economy.
Taliban officials don’t sound eager for American troops to return to Bagram. “Afghans...”


Commentary:
One of the worst of the long list incompetent acts of the Biden Administration that cost American lives in the process, was to “evacuate Bagram” first. Trump’s plan was to keep it.
At this point, negotiating a deal would not be in the offing and the recapture of Bagram AFB would be necessary.
That would mean putting our military on the firing line once again...
I don't believe that Trump would want to take that route to retake Bagram AFB...
IMHO, the issue is mute and just a wish on Trump's part.
Former Generals Mark Milley, Lloyd Austin and those in the State Department should be held responsible and the former generals cashiered from the military for their roles in the botched evacuation of Bagram AFB and Afghanistan...

Don't you have enough Torture locations without trying to get Bagram back? i think the Taliban may have an opinion on the matter.
 
You don;t need to "project" you need to hem your enemies in and make them think twice about any military adventures.

We have become numb to the realities of evil since WWII. I'd prefer America lead the world compared to others.

Call me what you'd like, I'm a student of historyl
They are pretty well hemmed in, at the moment, due to numbers and 2nd tier equipment, and our keeping the seas open.
 
They are pretty well hemmed in, at the moment, due to numbers and 2nd tier equipment, and our keeping the seas open.
Hem them in further.

You can disagree or hate my position but I want America and their allies to have their enemies continue to think twice about any initiatives. The world is not perfect and I pray for those on the front lines.

When China was part of a UN force in the Congo I believe they abandoned their position because they are not American soldiers. Ditto for Canadian soldiers fighting the good fight whom I HOPE Canada recruits from the best DNA in the nation
 
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Whatever gave you the idea, we needed to to project power, around the world. We just bombed the crap out of nuclear facilities in Iran, with planes that took off here, did their mission, than landed here, in time for dinner at the O Club. We have the largest fleet of aircraft carriers in the world, on mission, around the world, none of them involved in politics of a particular foreign regime. Your strategic supposed need does not hold water.
Do you actually understand what you wrote?
 
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Hem them in further.

You can disagree or hate my position but I want America and their allies to have their enemies continue to think twice about any initiatives. The world is not perfect and I pray for those on the front lines.

When China was part of a UN force in the Congo I believe they abandoned their position because they are not American soldiers. Ditto for Canadian soldiers fighting the good fight whom I HOPE Canada recruits from the best DNA in the nation
Let Canada do it. :auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg:
 
Let Canada do it. :auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg:
If I were leading Canada we would. Why? I believe in G-d and civil liberties.

Canada may not be a large nation but like any small nation the most dedicated will fight to the death for their beliefs (Charter of Rights and Freedoms). I am not an extremist but I will not spit on those who died for our freedom.

I speak from experience, you can back me down, but not where G-d and his principles are concerned. I will hold the line there.

Sun Tzu was ahead of his time and told soldiers "do not attack a retreating army as they will fight to the death on the way home to their wife and family".

It's a principle I live by, "something worth fighting for is worth dying for" The rarest of air. So advise the world of this principle. I was in the my 20s when I reached out to the U.S and offered to join them in their fight against the terrorists. Perhaps I was young and dumb, but my heart was in the right place.

Be a man a man of peace but don't betray your principles. Peace through strength is a real concept.
 
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If I were leading Canada we would. Why? I believe in G-d and civil liberties.

Canada may not be a large nation but like any small nation the most dedicated will fight to the death for their beliefs (Charter of Rights and Freedoms). I am not an extremist but I will not spit on those who died for our freedom.

I speak from experience, you can back me down, but not where G-d and his principles are concerned. I will hold the line there.

Sun Tzu was ahead of his time and told soldiers "do not attack a retreating army as they will fight to the death on the way home to their wife and family".

It's a principle I live by, "something worth fighting for is worth dying for" The rarest of air. So advise the world of this principle. I was in the my 20s when I reached out to the U.S and offered to join them in their fight against the terrorists. Perhaps I was young and dumb, but my heart was in the right place.

Be a man a man of peace but don't betray your principles. Peace through strength is a real concept.
Do you believe in forcing God and your idea of civil liberties on Afghanis? Exporting your values at gunpoint, does not work. Trust me. We tried it.
 
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