A graveyard for Israeli soldiers?

[RetiredGySgt]

do you pray that they quit killing innocent people?

I pray that a military operation conducted in a large city to kill terrorists kills as few innocents as possible. There is no way some won't die. That is the nature of the situation. However the people responsible for those deaths are the terrorists for using them as shields. For hiding amongst them, for using civilian structures to make war.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

not defending them but, really----where else would they put them ?

Are you serious? They could have constructed them anywhere they chose. Funny how Police and military buildings exist. YOU are defending them when you make dumb as rocks questions like that.

 

[dilloduck]

I pray that a military operation conducted in a large city to kill terrorists kills as few innocents as possible. There is no way some won't die. That is the nature of the situation. However the people responsible for those deaths are the terrorists for using them as shields. For hiding amongst them, for using civilian structures to make war.

Where else would they hide ? Seriously ?

 

[DiveCon]

I pray that a military operation conducted in a large city to kill terrorists kills as few innocents as possible. There is no way some won't die. That is the nature of the situation. However the people responsible for those deaths are the terrorists for using them as shields. For hiding amongst them, for using civilian structures to make war.

unfortunately, it is hard NOT to kill civilians when the terrorists use them as human shield and cannon fodder

so morons like pfife can call Israel a terrorist

 

[pfife]

so morons like pfife can call Israel a terrorist

Where did I call Israel a terrorist?

 

[DiveCon]

Where else would they hide ? Seriously ?

you are aware that doing this is a violation of the Geneva Conventions, right?
it is putting civilians in harms way

 

[DiveCon]

I pray that they stop killing innocent people, even though I'm pretty sure they won't stop, even after Israel kills many of them.

Where did I call Israel a terrorist?

right there you ******* MORON

 

[dilloduck]

you are aware that doing this is a violation of the Geneva Conventions, right?
it is putting civilians in harms way

the Geneva conventions are a joke

 

[DiveCon]

the Geneva conventions are a joke

they are when only one side is expected to follow them

 

[dilloduck]

they are when only one side is expected to follow them

Polite wars with rules are bullshit.

 

[pfife]

right there you ******* MORON

I was praying that Hamas stop killing innocent civilians, even though I think they'll continue to do so even after Israel kills many Hamas.

That's quite evident from the quote in its context.

 

[toomuchtime_]

not defending them but, really----where else would they put them ?

Take a look at a map of Gaza: there's plenty of room outside of civilian areas to build bunkers and camouflaged places from which to fire rockets and mortars. Hamas places these assets in civilian areas betting that Israel will not attack for fear of the negative reaction to civilian deaths. The New York Times article explains that Hamas places civilians on the roofs of houses in which its fighters or weapons are to discourage the IAF from bombing them, and the IAF has taken to firing missiles rigged not to explode at the buildings to frighten the civilians away and then bombing the building.

The only real strength Hamas has in this battle is the negative reaction to civilian deaths, so Israel goes to great lengths to minimize civilian casualties in ways that are consistent with the success of the mission and the safety of its soldiers, while Hamas has organized its defenses in ways guaranteed to maximize civilian deaths.

Hamas has built hundreds of tunnel under the Egyptian border and hundreds more under the cities from which its fighters try to attack approaching Israeli troops, so why haven't they been able to build bomb shelters to protect Palestinian civilians? How many civilian casualties do you think Israel would have if it not built all those bomb shelters to protect its citizens?

 

[dilloduck]

Take a look at a map of Gaza: there's plenty of room outside of civilian areas to build bunkers and camouflaged places from which to fire rockets and mortars. Hamas places these assets in civilian areas betting that Israel will not attack for fear of the negative reaction to civilian deaths. The New York Times article explains that Hamas places civilians on the roofs of houses in which its fighters or weapons are to discourage the IAF from bombing them, and the IAF has taken to firing missiles rigged not to explode at the buildings to frighten the civilians away and then bombing the building.

The only real strength Hamas has in this battle is the negative reaction to civilian deaths, so Israel goes to great lengths to minimize civilian casualties in ways that are consistent with the success of the mission and the safety of its soldiers, while Hamas has organized its defenses in ways guaranteed to maximize civilian deaths.

Hamas has built hundreds of tunnel under the Egyptian border and hundreds more under the cities from which its fighters try to attack approaching Israeli troops, so why haven't they been able to build bomb shelters to protect Palestinian civilians? How many civilian casualties do you think Israel would have if it not built all those bomb shelters to protect its citizens?

Hamas isn't stupid--they may be a lot of things but stupid ain't one of them, If you were Hamas would YOU place all you forces and weapons in bunkers out in the open desert ?

 

[DiveCon]

Hamas isn't stupid--they may be a lot of things but stupid ain't one of them, If you were Hamas would YOU place all you forces and weapons in bunkers out in the open desert ?

they would, if they actually cared about the civilian populations

 

[dilloduck]

they would, if they actually cared about the civilian populations

Then it's up to the civilians to do something about.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Hamas isn't stupid--they may be a lot of things but stupid ain't one of them, If you were Hamas would YOU place all you forces and weapons in bunkers out in the open desert ?

You seem to be saying Hamas is smart to use its own civilian population as human shields, however no civilized leaders would make that choice.

 

[DiveCon]

You seem to be saying Hamas is smart to use its own civilian population as human shields, however no civilized leaders would make that choice.

bingo!!!!!!!!!

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Then it's up to the civilians to do something about.

Those civilians have had YEARS to do something about it. And they did. They elected Hamas as their leaders. Israel has a right and responsibility to protect itself.

 

[dilloduck]

You seem to be saying Hamas is smart to use its own civilian population as human shields, however no civilized leaders would make that choice.

If they're goal is to push Israel into the sea how else are they going do it ? What do you think the goal of Hamas is anyway and since when do Muslims NOT praise those who die in the struggle against Israel and it's allies ?

 

[toomuchtime_]

If they're goal is to push Israel into the sea how else are they going do it ? What do you think the goal of Hamas is anyway and since when do Muslims NOT praise those who die in the struggle against Israel and it's allies ?

Aw, c'mon, do you really think sacrificing all these civilians is going to advance the goal of pushing Israel into the sea? Do you really think Hamas is stupid enough to believe it will? Clearly the way Hamas has organized its defenses is aimed at benefiting Hamas, not the Palestinian civilians.