$5 GAS BY MEMORIAL DAY: So how many think that the voters will forgive this

[Big Fitz]

Strange how the current spike coincides almost precisely with the Deepwater drilling disaster spawned drilling moratorium and the first rigs leaving the Gulf to go to Egypt and Brazil. Whoopsie!

Good call I didn't think about that

Obviously neither of you gave that crap much thought. The Deepwater spill and ban was a year ago and lifted in October, during the flat period.

If you really were honest, the spike at the end of the graph more closely corresponds to the first deep water permit being approved in Feb 2011.
WOOPSIE!!!!!

Really? lifted eh? Before or after the drill rigs left and won't come back for years? Of course we're not to notice that means any lifted ban is useless if the equipment is already gone to more amenable areas. All those rigs are offline and in transit in many cases, drilling for new wells in the Mediterranean and off the cost of Brazil making money for George Soros and Petrobras.

And like most things out of this administration, it's a partial lie.

Gulf drilling ban lifted

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration on Tuesday lifted the moratorium on deepwater exploratory oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico — provided companies follow new safety rules.

So it's 'lifted' but here's the new rules to play with and cost you lots of money and time to implement.

Interior had earlier warned that even when the ban is lifted, drilling is unlikely to resume quickly because of the need for more inspections and compliance with new regulations.
Michael Bromwich, head of Interior's Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, said it would take "at least a couple of weeks" before permits are approved.

And we know how fast this government moves to take care of evil energy capitalists. Never waste a crisis, after all. A federal judge ordered it lifted in June. It took till October for "Brackets" Obama to obey.

And the steep spike corresponds nearly exactly with middle east unrest.

 

[Mr Liberty]

On what basis will gas be that expensive?

We have to have a recovery don't we?

Everyone pretty much already spends all they amke so the only way is to increase prices on things they already buy.

Why do you think there will be a recovery? Do you know something we don't? Please share.

I thing the worse is yet to come. I haven't seen one thing that points to any "real" improvement in the economy. I think gas will be eight dollars per gallon by November of 2012. The effects of the falling dollar and energy cost will destroy this economy. How long was the Great Depression? This one is going to be worst and going to last longer.

 

[Big Fitz]

On what basis will gas be that expensive?

We have to have a recovery don't we?

Everyone pretty much already spends all they amke so the only way is to increase prices on things they already buy.

Why do you think there will be a recovery? Do you know something we don't? Please share.

I thing the worse is yet to come. I haven't seen one thing that points to any "real" improvement in the economy. I think gas will be eight dollars per gallon by November of 2012. The effects of the falling dollar and energy cost will destroy this economy. How long was the Great Depression? This one is going to be worst and going to last longer.

now now... it's not assured to last longer. It all depends what the next administration is going to do. Will they help the conservative house bust the entitlement society, rolling back the New Deal and Great Society, finally? Or play more Paygo to the Weimar Republic?

The depression of 1920 was short and sharp. It would have been worse if not for the Harding/Coolidge administrations cutting government spending by 50% across the board. We make similar sacrifices and we will recover faster than you can say 'Ding Dong Socialism's Dead".

 

[Mr Liberty]

We have to have a recovery don't we?

Everyone pretty much already spends all they amke so the only way is to increase prices on things they already buy.

Why do you think there will be a recovery? Do you know something we don't? Please share.

I thing the worse is yet to come. I haven't seen one thing that points to any "real" improvement in the economy. I think gas will be eight dollars per gallon by November of 2012. The effects of the falling dollar and energy cost will destroy this economy. How long was the Great Depression? This one is going to be worst and going to last longer.

now now... it's not assured to last longer. It all depends what the next administration is going to do. Will they help the conservative house bust the entitlement society, rolling back the New Deal and Great Society, finally? Or play more Paygo to the Weimar Republic?

The depression of 1920 was short and sharp. It would have been worse if not for the Harding/Coolidge administrations cutting government spending by 50% across the board. We make similar sacrifices and we will recover faster than you can say 'Ding Dong Socialism's Dead".

I agree; however I don't see the will to change anything in Washington. They fought for a measly 30B. If they are going to fight over funds for Planned Parenthood, how do you expect them to make the massive cuts necessary to save us. The debasing of our currency continues without concern. The criminal Bernanke lies when he says inflation is not an immediate threat. When they print money they are stealing from all of us.
I hate being on the side of doom and gloom; however, I see nothing to be optimistic about.
I think gas will rise to eight dollars by November of 2012. The market may crash this summer and will crash by Christmas.

 

[Jroc]

Obviously neither of you gave that crap much thought. The Deepwater spill and ban was a year ago and lifted in October, during the flat period.

If you really were honest, the spike at the end of the graph more closely corresponds to the first deep water permit being approved in Feb 2011.
WOOPSIE!!!!!

Lifted? If you only knew what you are talking about.

Drilling Delays Inspire New Proposal to Reform Permitting Process

Two Republican lawmakers have developed a plan they hope will put pressure on the Obama administration to speed up the permitting process for offshore drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.

Reps. Bill Flores (R-TX) and Jeff Landry (R-LA) introduced legislation to codify timeliness of permitting process by establishing stringent deadlines and clear requirements on drilling applications. Leaseholders would even be able to request a refund on their bonus bid if the Department of Interior rejects an application.

The goal is to finally end the de facto drilling moratorium, which was the subject of Wednesday’s hearing of the House Natural Resources Committee.

“The Expedited Offshore Permitting Act aims to increase American energy production and reverse the Obama administration’s reckless anti-energy policies that are costing thousands of jobs, driving up gasoline prices and increasing uncertainty in the marketplace,” Flores said.

The legislation comes on the heels of conflicting information from the Obama administration on the number of permits currently pending. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar testified that seven deepwater permits and 47 shallow-water permits have been submitted in the past nine months.

But in a recent court filing, the Department of Justice produced much larger numbers: 57 deepwater applications and 270 shallow-water drilling permits.

By establishing a timeline for drilling permits, Congress would force an end to the bureaucratic quagmire at the Department of Interior. Administration officials have defended the delays as a safety measure in the wake of last year’s oil spill.

Yesterday’s hearing featured Scott Angelle, secretary of the Louisiana Department of Natural Resources. Angelle spoke about the hardships his state has witnessed due to the delays. He called for “regulation without strangulation” and related how the uncertainty fostered by the Obama administration has dire economic effects for the Gulf of Mexico region

Drilling Delays Inspire New Proposal to Reform Permitting Process | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.

 

[Dot Com]

administration by the time elections role around.....Think maybe this administration should have listen to the calls for energy Independence a couple of years back?

So you're saying the Presidents campaign promise and subsequent legislation relating to getting off of our addiction to fossil fuels & diversifying is a good thing? Bravo.

 

[Big Fitz]

Why do you think there will be a recovery? Do you know something we don't? Please share.

I thing the worse is yet to come. I haven't seen one thing that points to any "real" improvement in the economy. I think gas will be eight dollars per gallon by November of 2012. The effects of the falling dollar and energy cost will destroy this economy. How long was the Great Depression? This one is going to be worst and going to last longer.

now now... it's not assured to last longer. It all depends what the next administration is going to do. Will they help the conservative house bust the entitlement society, rolling back the New Deal and Great Society, finally? Or play more Paygo to the Weimar Republic?

The depression of 1920 was short and sharp. It would have been worse if not for the Harding/Coolidge administrations cutting government spending by 50% across the board. We make similar sacrifices and we will recover faster than you can say 'Ding Dong Socialism's Dead".

I agree; however I don't see the will to change anything in Washington. They fought for a measly 30B. If they are going to fight over funds for Planned Parenthood, how do you expect them to make the massive cuts necessary to save us. The debasing of our currency continues without concern. The criminal Bernanke lies when he says inflation is not an immediate threat. When they print money they are stealing from all of us.
I hate being on the side of doom and gloom; however, I see nothing to be optimistic about.
I think gas will rise to eight dollars by November of 2012. The market may crash this summer and will crash by Christmas.

What must happen is the flushing of the old 'ruling class' republicans. Once that is done and you put actual conservatives in charge there, then you can start seeing some changes. The ruling class doesn't want to rock the boat TOO hard and make the hard choices because their eyes are firmly planted on lifetime power and careers.

[yoda]...And that is why they fail[/yoda]

 

[bigrebnc1775]

On what basis will gas be that expensive?

We have to have a recovery don't we?

Everyone pretty much already spends all they amke so the only way is to increase prices on things they already buy.

Why do you think there will be a recovery? Do you know something we don't? Please share.

I thing the worse is yet to come. I haven't seen one thing that points to any "real" improvement in the economy. I think gas will be eight dollars per gallon by November of 2012. The effects of the falling dollar and energy cost will destroy this economy. How long was the Great Depression? This one is going to be worst and going to last longer.

The thing about the people that went through the great depression could genrally provide for themself, at least those who did not live in a city enviorment. No phone no electricity, most lived in rual areas and new how to grow their own food. We have lost most of those people now, and have been modernized beyound repair.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

The usual suspect butt sniffers will but most American Voters will not forgive.

 

[Big Fitz]

We have to have a recovery don't we?

Everyone pretty much already spends all they amke so the only way is to increase prices on things they already buy.

Why do you think there will be a recovery? Do you know something we don't? Please share.

I thing the worse is yet to come. I haven't seen one thing that points to any "real" improvement in the economy. I think gas will be eight dollars per gallon by November of 2012. The effects of the falling dollar and energy cost will destroy this economy. How long was the Great Depression? This one is going to be worst and going to last longer.

The thing about the people that went through the great depression could genrally provide for themself, at least those who did not live in a city enviorment. No phone no electricity, most lived in rual areas and new how to grow their own food. We have lost most of those people now, and have been modernized beyound repair.

You watch though. Depending when the bovine excrement hits the rotary atmospheric oscillator, in 12-24 months, people will become much more self sufficient. They will have no choice, and it will be one of the best things that ever happened to the nation in 50 years.

But those 12-24 months will be raw hell with a flaming hades on top and gehenna as a side dish.

 

[jeffrockit]

Thank You Crybaby Boner.
Gas is up more than a dollar since the GOP took over the House!!!!

Here are the facts:
Since Obama took office (with a democrat majority house and senate) gas prices have risen 67%.
Now I don't believe the president actually has control of gas prices (Bush either though he was blamed) but wanted to be factual and not partisan.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Why do you think there will be a recovery? Do you know something we don't? Please share.

I thing the worse is yet to come. I haven't seen one thing that points to any "real" improvement in the economy. I think gas will be eight dollars per gallon by November of 2012. The effects of the falling dollar and energy cost will destroy this economy. How long was the Great Depression? This one is going to be worst and going to last longer.

The thing about the people that went through the great depression could genrally provide for themself, at least those who did not live in a city enviorment. No phone no electricity, most lived in rual areas and new how to grow their own food. We have lost most of those people now, and have been modernized beyound repair.

You watch though. Depending when the bovine excrement hits the rotary atmospheric oscillator, in 12-24 months, people will become much more self sufficient. They will have no choice, and it will be one of the best things that ever happened to the nation in 50 years.

But those 12-24 months will be raw hell with a flaming hades on top and gehenna as a side dish.

Those living in the city won't have a chance their biggest need will be land to grow crops, and potible water to drink, and to insure that you have a fresh supply of potible water you will need a well.

 

[edthecynic]

Thank You Crybaby Boner.
Gas is up more than a dollar since the GOP took over the House!!!!

Here are the facts:
Since Obama took office (with a democrat majority house and senate) gas prices have risen 67%.
Now I don't believe the president actually has control of gas prices (Bush either though he was blamed) but wanted to be factual and not partisan.

And in the less than 4 months since Boner's GOP took over the House prices have risen half of that 67%.
Now I don't believe the House actually has control of gas prices (Obama either though he was blamed) but wanted to be factual and not partisan.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Thank You Crybaby Boner.
Gas is up more than a dollar since the GOP took over the House!!!!

Here are the facts:
Since Obama took office (with a democrat majority house and senate) gas prices have risen 67%.
Now I don't believe the president actually has control of gas prices (Bush either though he was blamed) but wanted to be factual and not partisan.

And in the less than 4 months since Boner's GOP took over the House prices have risen half of that 67%.
Now I don't believe the House actually has control of gas prices (Obama either though he was blamed) but wanted to be factual and not partisan.

You don't think that anything obama and the democrats did had any effect on the rise in fuel prices? Imposed drilling bans?


Let's write down a few facts that have happen
Clinton leaves office the economy tanks bush is blamed
Bush leaves office with a democrt controlled congress the economy tanks Bush is blamed.
Four years later Democrats kick out of the house the in coming newly elected republicans are blamed for the rise of fuel prices.

Is this correct?

 

[edthecynic]

Here are the facts:
Since Obama took office (with a democrat majority house and senate) gas prices have risen 67%.
Now I don't believe the president actually has control of gas prices (Bush either though he was blamed) but wanted to be factual and not partisan.

And in the less than 4 months since Boner's GOP took over the House prices have risen half of that 67%.
Now I don't believe the House actually has control of gas prices (Obama either though he was blamed) but wanted to be factual and not partisan.

You don't think that anything obama and the democrats did had any effect on the rise in fuel prices? Imposed drilling bans?

There is no drilling ban and domestic oil production is up. The oil monopoly is keeping the oil off the market to inflate the price. They know they have the House to block anything Obama and the Senate can try to remedy the situation.

 

[editec]

Just purchased 100 gallons of heating fuel #2.

It costs $378.

Between the rising price of fuel and food, my personal economy is already suffering.

Americans caught in this squeeze are NOT going to be forgiving of the man in the oval office.

They never are kind to PsOTUS if the economy is in the crapper on his watch.

I expect, unless the GOP runs a total loser, that O is in trouble next time around.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

And in the less than 4 months since Boner's GOP took over the House prices have risen half of that 67%.
Now I don't believe the House actually has control of gas prices (Obama either though he was blamed) but wanted to be factual and not partisan.

You don't think that anything obama and the democrats did had any effect on the rise in fuel prices? Imposed drilling bans?

There is no drilling ban and domestic oil production is up. The oil monopoly is keeping the oil off the market to inflate the price. They know they have the House to block anything Obama and the Senate can try to remedy the situation.

Forgot this part

Let's write down a few facts that have happen
Clinton leaves office the economy tanks bush is blamed
Bush leaves office with a democrt controlled congress the economy tanks Bush is blamed.
Four years later Democrats kick out of the house the in coming newly elected republicans are blamed for the rise of fuel prices.

Is this correct?

 

[edthecynic]

You don't think that anything obama and the democrats did had any effect on the rise in fuel prices? Imposed drilling bans?

There is no drilling ban and domestic oil production is up. The oil monopoly is keeping the oil off the market to inflate the price. They know they have the House to block anything Obama and the Senate can try to remedy the situation.

Forgot this part

Let's write down a few facts that have happen
Clinton leaves office the economy tanks bush is blamed
Bush leaves office with a democrt controlled congress the economy tanks Bush is blamed.
Four years later Democrats kick out of the house the in coming newly elected republicans are blamed for the rise of fuel prices.

Is this correct?

Of course not, nothing you post is ever correct.
The economy tanked well BEFORE Bush left office. The Bush Depression began Dec 2007.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

There is no drilling ban and domestic oil production is up. The oil monopoly is keeping the oil off the market to inflate the price. They know they have the House to block anything Obama and the Senate can try to remedy the situation.

Forgot this part

Let's write down a few facts that have happen
Clinton leaves office the economy tanks bush is blamed
Bush leaves office with a democrt controlled congress the economy tanks Bush is blamed.
Four years later Democrats kick out of the house the in coming newly elected republicans are blamed for the rise of fuel prices.

Is this correct?

Of course not, nothing you post is ever correct.
The economy tanked well BEFORE Bush left office. The Bush Depression began Dec 2007.

So bush wasn't blamed for the bad so called economy in 2001 and Bush wasn't blamed for the bad Economy in 2008 2009 and 2010? and you aren't blaming the republicans for the high gas prices now? What type of drugs are you taking? How can you lie so easly?
Weren't democrats controling congress in 2007? With obama as senator?

 

[edthecynic]

Forgot this part

Of course not, nothing you post is ever correct.
The economy tanked well BEFORE Bush left office. The Bush Depression began Dec 2007.

So bush wasn't blamed for the bad so called economy in 2001 and Bush wasn't blamed for the bad Economy in 2008 2009 and 2010? and you aren't blaming the republicans for the high gas prices now? What type of drugs are you taking? How can you lie so easly?
Weren't democrats controling congress in 2007? With obama as senator?

CON$ blamed Clinton for the Bush recession of 2001.
CON$ blamed Clinton for 9/11.
CON$ blamed Clinton, Carter, and FDR for the Bush housing bubble bursting.
CONS blamed the Democratic Congress for Bush signing deficit budgets rather than vetoing them.
CON$ blamed Pelosi for all the deficit spending Bush did from the first day Pelosi became speaker of the House without passing a single bill over the record number of GOP filibusters.
So blaming Boner for the rise in gas prices from the first day he became speaker is in the CON$ervative tradition.