2010 The hottest year on record

[westwall]

Ol' Walleyes, if the trend were to colder temperatures, then the balance of the record temps would be on that side. What Chris is postin are indictators of a trend. When the record temps, cold versus hot, keep coming in 3 to 10 times more record hot than cold, for a period of several years, one can safely say that you are seeing a trend.

When all you can do to defend your position that nothing is happening, is post a couple of the cold extremes, then one can safely say that you have nothing to offer.

No, Chris is posting press releases from an organization that has actively reduced the number and rural locations of 6000 weather stations taking our actual temperature gathering ability back the the level it was in 1915.

Furthermore the extrapolation of temperatures across thousands of kilometers of dataless
terrain is riduculous. No legitimate scientist would ever choose to drop temperature gathering ability at the source in favour of making up what is missing.

Unless they had an ulterior motive. It is impossible tio hide the effect of freezing cold temperatures...just look at the millions of dead critters this last winter. However, when you get to make the figures up as you need then you can lie about how warm it is to further your propaganda.

This is what they are doing and they are being caught doing it....there will be repurcussions for this perfidy.

 

[Chris]

Ol' Walleyes, if the trend were to colder temperatures, then the balance of the record temps would be on that side. What Chris is postin are indictators of a trend. When the record temps, cold versus hot, keep coming in 3 to 10 times more record hot than cold, for a period of several years, one can safely say that you are seeing a trend.

When all you can do to defend your position that nothing is happening, is post a couple of the cold extremes, then one can safely say that you have nothing to offer.

No, Chris is posting press releases from an organization that has actively reduced the number and rural locations of 6000 weather stations taking our actual temperature gathering ability back the the level it was in 1915.

Furthermore the extrapolation of temperatures across thousands of kilometers of dataless
terrain is riduculous. No legitimate scientist would ever choose to drop temperature gathering ability at the source in favour of making up what is missing.

Unless they had an ulterior motive. It is impossible tio hide the effect of freezing cold temperatures...just look at the millions of dead critters this last winter. However, when you get to make the figures up as you need then you can lie about how warm it is to further your propaganda.

This is what they are doing and they are being caught doing it....there will be repurcussions for this perfidy.

Sorry, Westwall you've been outed.

You work for the oil industry. For those who are interested check out Westwall's personal profile and statistics on this board. Every thread he has started has been about the oil industry or an attack on global warming.

 

[westwall]

Ol' Walleyes, if the trend were to colder temperatures, then the balance of the record temps would be on that side. What Chris is postin are indictators of a trend. When the record temps, cold versus hot, keep coming in 3 to 10 times more record hot than cold, for a period of several years, one can safely say that you are seeing a trend.

When all you can do to defend your position that nothing is happening, is post a couple of the cold extremes, then one can safely say that you have nothing to offer.

No, Chris is posting press releases from an organization that has actively reduced the number and rural locations of 6000 weather stations taking our actual temperature gathering ability back the the level it was in 1915.

Furthermore the extrapolation of temperatures across thousands of kilometers of dataless
terrain is riduculous. No legitimate scientist would ever choose to drop temperature gathering ability at the source in favour of making up what is missing.

Unless they had an ulterior motive. It is impossible tio hide the effect of freezing cold temperatures...just look at the millions of dead critters this last winter. However, when you get to make the figures up as you need then you can lie about how warm it is to further your propaganda.

This is what they are doing and they are being caught doing it....there will be repurcussions for this perfidy.

Sorry, Westwall you've been outed.

You work for the oil industry. For those who are interested check out Westwall's personal profile and statistics on this board. Every thread he has started has been about the oil industry or an attack on global warming.

Yeah sure Chrissy old buddy! There is no biographical information other than the fact I live in Nevada. Go ahead with your little conspiricy nonsense though. Whatever floats your boat!




Oh and by the way you're wrong on all counts. Most of the threads I've posted are indeed attacks on AGW, however they are based on real science unlike your fantasy driven BS.

And yes, you should be sorry.. very sorry indeed.

 

[Chris]

No, Chris is posting press releases from an organization that has actively reduced the number and rural locations of 6000 weather stations taking our actual temperature gathering ability back the the level it was in 1915.

Furthermore the extrapolation of temperatures across thousands of kilometers of dataless
terrain is riduculous. No legitimate scientist would ever choose to drop temperature gathering ability at the source in favour of making up what is missing.

Unless they had an ulterior motive. It is impossible tio hide the effect of freezing cold temperatures...just look at the millions of dead critters this last winter. However, when you get to make the figures up as you need then you can lie about how warm it is to further your propaganda.

This is what they are doing and they are being caught doing it....there will be repurcussions for this perfidy.

Sorry, Westwall you've been outed.

You work for the oil industry. For those who are interested check out Westwall's personal profile and statistics on this board. Every thread he has started has been about the oil industry or an attack on global warming.

Yeah sure Chrissy old buddy! There is no biographical information other than the fact I live in Nevada. Go ahead with your little conspiricy nonsense though. Whatever floats your boat!




Oh and by the way you're wrong on all counts. Most of the threads I've posted are indeed attacks on AGW, however they are based on real science unlike your fantasy driven BS.

And yes, you should be sorry.. very sorry indeed.

Sorry, Westwall you've been outed.

You work for the oil industry. For those who are interested check out Westwall's personal profile and statistics on this board. Every thread he has started has been about the oil industry or an attack on global warming.

 

[mdn2000]

If CO2 is so dangerous why would we build large reflecting mirrors on the surface of the earth concentrating the energy of the sun, creating more heat. Heat is either the underlying cause of global warming or its not, makes no sense.

Reflect those cosmic rays back into the atmosphere instead of letting them get absorbed into the ground.

Now watch the response to my posts, not one link to a scientist that disputes basic common sense.

When they cannot think they link, when they cannot link they call people names, like bullies in grade school, it is that kind of intelligence that believes in "Clean Energy".

 

[Chris]

If CO2 is so dangerous why would we build large reflecting mirrors on the surface of the earth concentrating the energy of the sun, creating more heat. Heat is either the underlying cause of global warming or its not, makes no sense.

Reflect those cosmic rays back into the atmosphere instead of letting them get absorbed into the ground.

Now watch the response to my posts, not one link to a scientist that disputes basic common sense.

When they cannot think they link, when they cannot link they call people names, like bullies in grade school, it is that kind of intelligence that believes in "Clean Energy".

Clean energy is all around us.

And you are the one who is insulting people.

As Buckminster Fuller said, "There isn't an energy crisis. There is only a crisis of ignorance."

 

[mdn2000]

If CO2 is so dangerous why would we build large reflecting mirrors on the surface of the earth concentrating the energy of the sun, creating more heat. Heat is either the underlying cause of global warming or its not, makes no sense.

Reflect those cosmic rays back into the atmosphere instead of letting them get absorbed into the ground.

Now watch the response to my posts, not one link to a scientist that disputes basic common sense.

When they cannot think they link, when they cannot link they call people names, like bullies in grade school, it is that kind of intelligence that believes in "Clean Energy".

Clean energy is all around us.

And you are the one who is insulting people.

As Buckminster Fuller said, "There isn't an energy crisis. There is only a crisis of ignorance."

Are you stupid, I meant to be insulting, I wont deny that it was my intention to insult, I thought for some dumb reason if I insulted you, you would take my challenge and show us the plant that makes green energy, give us the name, maybe the address, we can google map plot it and see how clean it is.

So go ahead six figure man, show us the clean energy plant.

Crisis of ignorance, to bad the ignorant are not smart enough to see how far that crisis reaches into their own life.

 

[westwall]

If CO2 is so dangerous why would we build large reflecting mirrors on the surface of the earth concentrating the energy of the sun, creating more heat. Heat is either the underlying cause of global warming or its not, makes no sense.

Reflect those cosmic rays back into the atmosphere instead of letting them get absorbed into the ground.

Now watch the response to my posts, not one link to a scientist that disputes basic common sense.

When they cannot think they link, when they cannot link they call people names, like bullies in grade school, it is that kind of intelligence that believes in "Clean Energy".

Clean energy is all around us.

And you are the one who is insulting people.

As Buckminster Fuller said, "There isn't an energy crisis. There is only a crisis of ignorance."

And you are a classic example of a willfully ignorant silly person! Fuller wouldn't spend a minute with you. He had far higher standards.

 

[mdn2000]

If CO2 is so dangerous why would we build large reflecting mirrors on the surface of the earth concentrating the energy of the sun, creating more heat. Heat is either the underlying cause of global warming or its not, makes no sense.

Reflect those cosmic rays back into the atmosphere instead of letting them get absorbed into the ground.

Now watch the response to my posts, not one link to a scientist that disputes basic common sense.

When they cannot think they link, when they cannot link they call people names, like bullies in grade school, it is that kind of intelligence that believes in "Clean Energy".

Clean energy is all around us.

And you are the one who is insulting people.

As Buckminster Fuller said, "There isn't an energy crisis. There is only a crisis of ignorance."

And you are a classic example of a willfully ignorant silly person! Fuller wouldn't spend a minute with you. He had far higher standards.

As Buckminister Fuller said, "There isn't an energy crisis, there is only a chris of ignorance.

I fixed the quote.

 

[Chris]

Clean energy is all around us.

And you are the one who is insulting people.

As Buckminster Fuller said, "There isn't an energy crisis. There is only a crisis of ignorance."

And you are a classic example of a willfully ignorant silly person! Fuller wouldn't spend a minute with you. He had far higher standards.

As Buckminister Fuller said, "There isn't an energy crisis, there is only a chris of ignorance.

I fixed the quote.

You fixed nothing.

You have no facts, only insults.

Pretty pathetic, really.

 

[Chris]

Record Events for Tue Nov 9, 2010 through Mon Nov 15, 2010

High Temperatures: 421
Low Temperatures: 59

HAMweather Climate Center - Record High Temperatures for The Past Week - Continental US View

 

[westwall]

Record Events for Tue Nov 9, 2010 through Mon Nov 15, 2010

High Temperatures: 421
Low Temperatures: 59

HAMweather Climate Center - Record High Temperatures for The Past Week - Continental US View

Evidence of GISS cooking the books.

GISS : Fighting For #1 | Real Science

 

[Chris]

Prague, Nov 13 (CTK) - Record high temperatures of almost 20 degrees centigrade were registered in Prague and Ceske Budejovice, south Bohemia, Saturday.

Unusually high temperatures for mid-November were also reported from other large towns - Brno (16.5 degrees centigrade), south Moravia, and Ostrava-Mosnov (17.5 degrees centigrade), north Moravia.

In Prague-Karlov meteorologists measured 19 degrees centigrade, which exceeded the previous record from 1928 (14.9 degrees centigrade) by over four degrees.

Record high temperatures registered in ?R | Prague Monitor

 

[Chris]

The temperature in Moscow reached 12.3 degrees Celsius (54.14 degrees Fahrenheit) on Monday setting the fifth record for the fall of 2010, the Fobos meteorological center said.

The previous record for November 15 was set in 1923 with a temperature of 11.7C.

Moscow has set four temperature records this month, with temperatures hovering at around 12 C.

Hedgehogs and badgers living in Russian capital, have been unable to go into hibernation this fall because of the unusually warm weather. Some species of red squirrels have not changed their coats to white yet, and hares are only halfway into their winter attire.

Moscow breaks fifth record of abnormally warm November | Russia | RIA Novosti

 

[mdn2000]

And you are a classic example of a willfully ignorant silly person! Fuller wouldn't spend a minute with you. He had far higher standards.

As Buckminister Fuller said, "There isn't an energy crisis, there is only a chris of ignorance.

I fixed the quote.

You fixed nothing.

You have no facts, only insults.

Pretty pathetic, really.

For each ton of polysilicon produced, four tons of silicon tetrachloride are generated. That is a fact, how many tons of poly silicon were consumed by the Nellis AFB's Sunpower Solar plant.

Where were the panels manufactured.

Is it an insult if its true, if I call you a six-figure-mind, that is how you asked to be identified, you expect your post to be accepted based on your intelligence, as proved by the amount of money you tell us you make, you make six figures, so give us some six figure answers with six figures of fact, not just a link, any idiot can link, you make six figures, did you do that linking to stories and ignoring points of fact.

Is it an insult or a descriptive analysis of Chris and his six-figure posts.

 

[Old Rocks]

Still having above normal temperatures in many parts of the world, yet we are in a moderate to strong La Nina. If the pattern of immediate switchs in ENSO continue, with no neutral periods, we could have one hell of a summer next year.

Climate Prediction Center - Seasonal Outlook

MODERATE-TO-STRONG LA NINA CONDITIONS CONTINUE IN THE TROPICAL PACIFIC OCEAN. SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES (SSTS) IN THE TROPICAL PACIFIC HAVE DECLINED TO VALUES RANGING FROM 1 TO 2.5 DEGREES C BELOW LONG-TERM AVERAGES. BUOY MEASUREMENTS OF OCEAN TEMPERATURE FROM THE SURFACE TO 600 METERS BELOW THE SURFACE INDICATE THE EXISTENCE OF A POOL OF SUBSURFACE WATER WHICH IS FROM 1 TO 6 CENTIGRADE DEGREES COOLER THAN LONG TERM AVERAGES, BETWEEN ABOUT THE DATE LINE TO NEAR THE COAST OF SOUTH AMERICA, WITH COLDEST TEMPERATURES BETWEEN ABOUT 50 AND 125 METERS BELOW THE SURFACE, BETWEEN ABOUT 160W AND 110W. THIS FEATURE SUPPORTS THE MAINTENANCE AND CONTINUATION OF THIS LA NINA EVENT.

 

[Old Rocks]

As Buckminister Fuller said, "There isn't an energy crisis, there is only a chris of ignorance.

I fixed the quote.

You fixed nothing.

You have no facts, only insults.

Pretty pathetic, really.

For each ton of polysilicon produced, four tons of silicon tetrachloride are generated. That is a fact, how many tons of poly silicon were consumed by the Nellis AFB's Sunpower Solar plant.

Where were the panels manufactured.

Is it an insult if its true, if I call you a six-figure-mind, that is how you asked to be identified, you expect your post to be accepted based on your intelligence, as proved by the amount of money you tell us you make, you make six figures, so give us some six figure answers with six figures of fact, not just a link, any idiot can link, you make six figures, did you do that linking to stories and ignoring points of fact.

Is it an insult or a descriptive analysis of Chris and his six-figure posts.

More bullshit from mdn. When will he stop making up such easy to check out lies?

As you can see from the paragraph, sillcon tetrachloride is an intermediate step, not a byproduct of the process of making very pure silicon. And when it shows up as pollution, it is an indication of inefficiency and profit loss.

Silicon tetrachloride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Silicon tetrachloride is sometimes used as an intermediate in the manufacture of extremely pure silicon, since it has a boiling point convenient for purification by repeated fractional distillation; it can be reduced to silicon by hydrogen gas, or hydrolysed to SiO2 as a precursor for extremely pure synthetic fused silica. Very pure silicon derived from silicon tetrachloride is used in large amounts in the semiconductor industry, and also in the production of photovoltaic cells. Reports of silicon tetrachloride pollution in China have been associated with the increased demand for photovoltaic cells that has been stimulated by subsidy programs.[2]

 

[mdn2000]

You fixed nothing.

You have no facts, only insults.

Pretty pathetic, really.

For each ton of polysilicon produced, four tons of silicon tetrachloride are generated. That is a fact, how many tons of poly silicon were consumed by the Nellis AFB's Sunpower Solar plant.

Where were the panels manufactured.

Is it an insult if its true, if I call you a six-figure-mind, that is how you asked to be identified, you expect your post to be accepted based on your intelligence, as proved by the amount of money you tell us you make, you make six figures, so give us some six figure answers with six figures of fact, not just a link, any idiot can link, you make six figures, did you do that linking to stories and ignoring points of fact.

Is it an insult or a descriptive analysis of Chris and his six-figure posts.

More bullshit from mdn. When will he stop making up such easy to check out lies?

As you can see from the paragraph, sillcon tetrachloride is an intermediate step, not a byproduct of the process of making very pure silicon. And when it shows up as pollution, it is an indication of inefficiency and profit loss.

Silicon tetrachloride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Silicon tetrachloride is sometimes used as an intermediate in the manufacture of extremely pure silicon, since it has a boiling point convenient for purification by repeated fractional distillation; it can be reduced to silicon by hydrogen gas, or hydrolysed to SiO2 as a precursor for extremely pure synthetic fused silica. Very pure silicon derived from silicon tetrachloride is used in large amounts in the semiconductor industry, and also in the production of photovoltaic cells. Reports of silicon tetrachloride pollution in China have been associated with the increased demand for photovoltaic cells that has been stimulated by subsidy programs.[2]

Old Crock, you are dumb-funny, so dumb I have to laugh at you, I don't even need a link, thanks.

Silicon tetrachloride is sometimes used as an intermediate in the manufacture of extremely pure silicon

Sometimes, how often is sometimes, is this a decision the plant manager makes at the beginning of the day or is this a decision made by the engineer that designs the manufacturing plant according to the environmental laws or lack of in the country the said plant will be built.

Your link even states there is tetrachloride pollution in China.

Reports of silicon tetrachloride pollution in China have been associated with the increased demand for photovoltaic cells that has been stimulated by subsidy programs

As the link states that the pollution was created by the demand of Green Energy and the subsidies in the USA.

Thanks Old Crock, according to your source, we are now responsible for cleaning the pollution in China because of all the subsidized solar farms in Oregon, which Oregon cannot pay for so Obama is giving Oregon billions of dollars, hence the entire nation will pay for cleaning pollution in China and pay Old Crock' Clean electric bill.

Old Crock, more bullshit from me, yet Old Crock's post states what I said.

Your a great opponent. Your cleverness is dazzling.

 

[westwall]

Still having above normal temperatures in many parts of the world, yet we are in a moderate to strong La Nina. If the pattern of immediate switchs in ENSO continue, with no neutral periods, we could have one hell of a summer next year.

Climate Prediction Center - Seasonal Outlook

MODERATE-TO-STRONG LA NINA CONDITIONS CONTINUE IN THE TROPICAL PACIFIC OCEAN. SEA SURFACE TEMPERATURES (SSTS) IN THE TROPICAL PACIFIC HAVE DECLINED TO VALUES RANGING FROM 1 TO 2.5 DEGREES C BELOW LONG-TERM AVERAGES. BUOY MEASUREMENTS OF OCEAN TEMPERATURE FROM THE SURFACE TO 600 METERS BELOW THE SURFACE INDICATE THE EXISTENCE OF A POOL OF SUBSURFACE WATER WHICH IS FROM 1 TO 6 CENTIGRADE DEGREES COOLER THAN LONG TERM AVERAGES, BETWEEN ABOUT THE DATE LINE TO NEAR THE COAST OF SOUTH AMERICA, WITH COLDEST TEMPERATURES BETWEEN ABOUT 50 AND 125 METERS BELOW THE SURFACE, BETWEEN ABOUT 160W AND 110W. THIS FEATURE SUPPORTS THE MAINTENANCE AND CONTINUATION OF THIS LA NINA EVENT.

These temperatures are fiction.

GISS : Fighting For #1 | Real Science

 

[westwall]

For each ton of polysilicon produced, four tons of silicon tetrachloride are generated. That is a fact, how many tons of poly silicon were consumed by the Nellis AFB's Sunpower Solar plant.

Where were the panels manufactured.

Is it an insult if its true, if I call you a six-figure-mind, that is how you asked to be identified, you expect your post to be accepted based on your intelligence, as proved by the amount of money you tell us you make, you make six figures, so give us some six figure answers with six figures of fact, not just a link, any idiot can link, you make six figures, did you do that linking to stories and ignoring points of fact.

Is it an insult or a descriptive analysis of Chris and his six-figure posts.

More bullshit from mdn. When will he stop making up such easy to check out lies?

As you can see from the paragraph, sillcon tetrachloride is an intermediate step, not a byproduct of the process of making very pure silicon. And when it shows up as pollution, it is an indication of inefficiency and profit loss.

Silicon tetrachloride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Silicon tetrachloride is sometimes used as an intermediate in the manufacture of extremely pure silicon, since it has a boiling point convenient for purification by repeated fractional distillation; it can be reduced to silicon by hydrogen gas, or hydrolysed to SiO2 as a precursor for extremely pure synthetic fused silica. Very pure silicon derived from silicon tetrachloride is used in large amounts in the semiconductor industry, and also in the production of photovoltaic cells. Reports of silicon tetrachloride pollution in China have been associated with the increased demand for photovoltaic cells that has been stimulated by subsidy programs.[2]

Old Crock, you are dumb-funny, so dumb I have to laugh at you, I don't even need a link, thanks.

Silicon tetrachloride is sometimes used as an intermediate in the manufacture of extremely pure silicon

Sometimes, how often is sometimes, is this a decision the plant manager makes at the beginning of the day or is this a decision made by the engineer that designs the manufacturing plant according to the environmental laws or lack of in the country the said plant will be built.

Your link even states there is tetrachloride pollution in China.

Reports of silicon tetrachloride pollution in China have been associated with the increased demand for photovoltaic cells that has been stimulated by subsidy programs

As the link states that the pollution was created by the demand of Green Energy and the subsidies in the USA.

Thanks Old Crock, according to your source, we are now responsible for cleaning the pollution in China because of all the subsidized solar farms in Oregon, which Oregon cannot pay for so Obama is giving Oregon billions of dollars, hence the entire nation will pay for cleaning pollution in China and pay Old Crock' Clean electric bill.

Old Crock, more bullshit from me, yet Old Crock's post states what I said.

Your a great opponent. Your cleverness is dazzling.

Yes this is par for the course with olfraud. He links without understanding what exactly it is they are saying. My wife has a friend who is the head of the Arapahoe County Psych Department, and she calls people like olfraud "factual posturers" a term I adore as it fits so many of the greenies.