20 years ago the Wichita attack happened...one of the reasons I believe in the right to own and carry guns for self defense.

[2aguy]

These people were minding their own business.......likely believed they were safe......and then evil destroyed their lives. This is one of the cases that impacted my views on self defense and the ability to own and carry guns.

I wonder if you spoke to the victims before they were attacked, if they would have believed this could ever have happened to them....? Would they have told us......No one in my family has ever been a victim of crime.......?

The Carrs’ first victim was 23 year-old Andrew Schreiber. The latter stopped off at a convenience store when the Carrs forced their way into his car and forced him to drive around town while stopping at various ATM machines. Schreiber was eventually made to drive to a field where his captors pistol-whipped him and shot out one of his tires before driving off in another vehicle.

Andrew at least lived. The same could not be said for Ann Walenta, a librarian and cellist in her 50s. Four days after Schreiber was carjacked, abducted, assaulted, and robbed, the two scumbags who attacked him targeted Walenta as she sat parked in her own driveway. The Carrs were looking to commandeer SUVs while forcing their owners to drive to ATM machines. Walenta drove an SUV. When the Carrs approached her, being suspicious of their intentions, Walenta rolled her window down just slightly. Unfortunately, though, it was just enough for them to insert a gun into the opening and blast her multiple times as she tried to drive off.

The attack left her paralyzed from the neck down. Three weeks later, she would die from her injuries—but not before she was able to help the police identify her assailants.

The Carrs’ reign of terror would reach its climax three days later in what can only be described as a series of acts of unadulterated evil.

Jason Befort, a 26 year-old high school science teacher and coach, Bradley Heyka, a 27 year-old financial analyst, and 29 year-old Aaron Sander, who was preparing to enter the priesthood, shared a home. A woman who, for her own protection and for the sake of her own privacy, remains publicly known only as “Holly,” an elementary school teacher, was Befort’s girlfriend. She and her friend Heather Muller, a church pre-school teacher, were staying over.

Shortly after 11:00 PM, the Carr brothers somehow manipulated their way into the home. Armed with guns, they corralled all five of its inhabitants into a bedroom closet—but not before commanding them to remove all of their clothes. Then, over a span of the next couple of hours, hell was unleashed as the Carrs took turns raping Holly and Heather and forcing their victims to perform sexual acts upon one another.

Holly and Heather were forced to digitally and orally penetrate one another. Jason was ordered to have sex with Holly, but when the Carrs discovered that they were a couple, they were made to stop and Brad Heyka and Aaron Sander were assigned the task. Sander’s initial refusal to comply was met with the butt of a pistol to the back of his head.

Holly was sent back to the closet and Heather was brought forth so that Sander could have sex with her. When he couldn’t get an erection, the Carrs beat him with a golf club. They then warned him that if he couldn’t get erect within the next two minutes, that they were going to kill him. Time passed and Sander, evidently unable to get aroused with a gun to his head, was nevertheless not killed.

At least he wasn’t killed at that moment.

During the midst of this ordeal, one Carr brother would drive their prey to the bank while the other would stay behind and sexually torment the others.

They also rummaged around throughout the house looking for money. In doing so, they discovered a diamond ring.

It was the ring that Jason Befort was planning on giving to Holly when he proposed to her the following Friday night. “That’s for you,” he told Holly. “I was going to ask you to marry me.”

The Carrs decided that they were going to end the evening by taking their victims for a ride. Upon realizing that the trunk of Sander’s Honda Accord wasn’t sufficiently spacious to accommodate five people, they chose instead to squeeze the three men into it. Jonathan Carr would drive the Honda with Heather Muller as his passenger, and Reginald Carr would drive Jason Befort’s truck with Holly by his side.

They arrived at a barren field. In freezing cold temperatures, in the snow and ice, the Carrs made their victims, all of whom were barely dressed, to get down on their knees. Then, as the shivering, traumatized five pleaded for their lives, the Carrs shot them, one at a time, in the backs of their heads.

The monsters weren’t done. They jumped into Befort’s truck and drove over the bodies of the three men and two women who they just disposed of like so much trash.

Four of the five died. Holly, however, survived. What neither she nor the Carrs counted on was her plastic barrette deflecting the bullet to another location of her skull.

Holly felt herself get shot and subsequently kicked over by the shooter. She played dead and actually felt the truck hit her body too.

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[EL Rich]

Unfortunately data does not support your argument about crimes being deterred by more guns being available to the public. If you look at violent crimes in particular, nations with the most relaxed gun laws (The US often leads the world in violent crimes) have more not less violence. This being said, the 2nd Amendment is like the rest of the Bill of Rights, if you start taking away or limiting any of these rights, you pretty much piss them all away. So really, please keep all of your guns but stop using faulty logic to justify it.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

These people were minding their own business.......likely believed they were safe......and then evil destroyed their lives. This is one of the cases that impacted my views on self defense and the ability to own and carry guns.

I wonder if you spoke to the victims before they were attacked, if they would have believed this could ever have happened to them....? Would they have told us......No one in my family has ever been a victim of crime.......?

The Carrs’ first victim was 23 year-old Andrew Schreiber. The latter stopped off at a convenience store when the Carrs forced their way into his car and forced him to drive around town while stopping at various ATM machines. Schreiber was eventually made to drive to a field where his captors pistol-whipped him and shot out one of his tires before driving off in another vehicle.

Andrew at least lived. The same could not be said for Ann Walenta, a librarian and cellist in her 50s. Four days after Schreiber was carjacked, abducted, assaulted, and robbed, the two scumbags who attacked him targeted Walenta as she sat parked in her own driveway. The Carrs were looking to commandeer SUVs while forcing their owners to drive to ATM machines. Walenta drove an SUV. When the Carrs approached her, being suspicious of their intentions, Walenta rolled her window down just slightly. Unfortunately, though, it was just enough for them to insert a gun into the opening and blast her multiple times as she tried to drive off.

The attack left her paralyzed from the neck down. Three weeks later, she would die from her injuries—but not before she was able to help the police identify her assailants.

The Carrs’ reign of terror would reach its climax three days later in what can only be described as a series of acts of unadulterated evil.

Jason Befort, a 26 year-old high school science teacher and coach, Bradley Heyka, a 27 year-old financial analyst, and 29 year-old Aaron Sander, who was preparing to enter the priesthood, shared a home. A woman who, for her own protection and for the sake of her own privacy, remains publicly known only as “Holly,” an elementary school teacher, was Befort’s girlfriend. She and her friend Heather Muller, a church pre-school teacher, were staying over.

Shortly after 11:00 PM, the Carr brothers somehow manipulated their way into the home. Armed with guns, they corralled all five of its inhabitants into a bedroom closet—but not before commanding them to remove all of their clothes. Then, over a span of the next couple of hours, hell was unleashed as the Carrs took turns raping Holly and Heather and forcing their victims to perform sexual acts upon one another.

Holly and Heather were forced to digitally and orally penetrate one another. Jason was ordered to have sex with Holly, but when the Carrs discovered that they were a couple, they were made to stop and Brad Heyka and Aaron Sander were assigned the task. Sander’s initial refusal to comply was met with the butt of a pistol to the back of his head.

Holly was sent back to the closet and Heather was brought forth so that Sander could have sex with her. When he couldn’t get an erection, the Carrs beat him with a golf club. They then warned him that if he couldn’t get erect within the next two minutes, that they were going to kill him. Time passed and Sander, evidently unable to get aroused with a gun to his head, was nevertheless not killed.

At least he wasn’t killed at that moment.

During the midst of this ordeal, one Carr brother would drive their prey to the bank while the other would stay behind and sexually torment the others.

They also rummaged around throughout the house looking for money. In doing so, they discovered a diamond ring.

It was the ring that Jason Befort was planning on giving to Holly when he proposed to her the following Friday night. “That’s for you,” he told Holly. “I was going to ask you to marry me.”

The Carrs decided that they were going to end the evening by taking their victims for a ride. Upon realizing that the trunk of Sander’s Honda Accord wasn’t sufficiently spacious to accommodate five people, they chose instead to squeeze the three men into it. Jonathan Carr would drive the Honda with Heather Muller as his passenger, and Reginald Carr would drive Jason Befort’s truck with Holly by his side.

They arrived at a barren field. In freezing cold temperatures, in the snow and ice, the Carrs made their victims, all of whom were barely dressed, to get down on their knees. Then, as the shivering, traumatized five pleaded for their lives, the Carrs shot them, one at a time, in the backs of their heads.

The monsters weren’t done. They jumped into Befort’s truck and drove over the bodies of the three men and two women who they just disposed of like so much trash.

Four of the five died. Holly, however, survived. What neither she nor the Carrs counted on was her plastic barrette deflecting the bullet to another location of her skull.

Holly felt herself get shot and subsequently kicked over by the shooter. She played dead and actually felt the truck hit her body too.

The Wichita Horror: 20th Anniversary | Frontpage Mag

In the era of Black Lives Matter when, as the indefatigable Colin Flaherty terms it, “the greatest lie of our generation”—the Big Lie that black people “are

www.frontpagemag.com

There are a few horrific incidents in our history that haunt my mind. I cant even reread these. Some things you cant unsee, and left me with the understanding that HALF of humanity is vile scum who shouldn't occupy a place on this planet

 

[EL Rich]

These people were minding their own business.......likely believed they were safe......and then evil destroyed their lives. This is one of the cases that impacted my views on self defense and the ability to own and carry guns.

I wonder if you spoke to the victims before they were attacked, if they would have believed this could ever have happened to them....? Would they have told us......No one in my family has ever been a victim of crime.......?

The Carrs’ first victim was 23 year-old Andrew Schreiber. The latter stopped off at a convenience store when the Carrs forced their way into his car and forced him to drive around town while stopping at various ATM machines. Schreiber was eventually made to drive to a field where his captors pistol-whipped him and shot out one of his tires before driving off in another vehicle.

Andrew at least lived. The same could not be said for Ann Walenta, a librarian and cellist in her 50s. Four days after Schreiber was carjacked, abducted, assaulted, and robbed, the two scumbags who attacked him targeted Walenta as she sat parked in her own driveway. The Carrs were looking to commandeer SUVs while forcing their owners to drive to ATM machines. Walenta drove an SUV. When the Carrs approached her, being suspicious of their intentions, Walenta rolled her window down just slightly. Unfortunately, though, it was just enough for them to insert a gun into the opening and blast her multiple times as she tried to drive off.

The attack left her paralyzed from the neck down. Three weeks later, she would die from her injuries—but not before she was able to help the police identify her assailants.

The Carrs’ reign of terror would reach its climax three days later in what can only be described as a series of acts of unadulterated evil.

Jason Befort, a 26 year-old high school science teacher and coach, Bradley Heyka, a 27 year-old financial analyst, and 29 year-old Aaron Sander, who was preparing to enter the priesthood, shared a home. A woman who, for her own protection and for the sake of her own privacy, remains publicly known only as “Holly,” an elementary school teacher, was Befort’s girlfriend. She and her friend Heather Muller, a church pre-school teacher, were staying over.

Shortly after 11:00 PM, the Carr brothers somehow manipulated their way into the home. Armed with guns, they corralled all five of its inhabitants into a bedroom closet—but not before commanding them to remove all of their clothes. Then, over a span of the next couple of hours, hell was unleashed as the Carrs took turns raping Holly and Heather and forcing their victims to perform sexual acts upon one another.

Holly and Heather were forced to digitally and orally penetrate one another. Jason was ordered to have sex with Holly, but when the Carrs discovered that they were a couple, they were made to stop and Brad Heyka and Aaron Sander were assigned the task. Sander’s initial refusal to comply was met with the butt of a pistol to the back of his head.

Holly was sent back to the closet and Heather was brought forth so that Sander could have sex with her. When he couldn’t get an erection, the Carrs beat him with a golf club. They then warned him that if he couldn’t get erect within the next two minutes, that they were going to kill him. Time passed and Sander, evidently unable to get aroused with a gun to his head, was nevertheless not killed.

At least he wasn’t killed at that moment.

During the midst of this ordeal, one Carr brother would drive their prey to the bank while the other would stay behind and sexually torment the others.

They also rummaged around throughout the house looking for money. In doing so, they discovered a diamond ring.

It was the ring that Jason Befort was planning on giving to Holly when he proposed to her the following Friday night. “That’s for you,” he told Holly. “I was going to ask you to marry me.”

The Carrs decided that they were going to end the evening by taking their victims for a ride. Upon realizing that the trunk of Sander’s Honda Accord wasn’t sufficiently spacious to accommodate five people, they chose instead to squeeze the three men into it. Jonathan Carr would drive the Honda with Heather Muller as his passenger, and Reginald Carr would drive Jason Befort’s truck with Holly by his side.

They arrived at a barren field. In freezing cold temperatures, in the snow and ice, the Carrs made their victims, all of whom were barely dressed, to get down on their knees. Then, as the shivering, traumatized five pleaded for their lives, the Carrs shot them, one at a time, in the backs of their heads.

The monsters weren’t done. They jumped into Befort’s truck and drove over the bodies of the three men and two women who they just disposed of like so much trash.

Four of the five died. Holly, however, survived. What neither she nor the Carrs counted on was her plastic barrette deflecting the bullet to another location of her skull.

Holly felt herself get shot and subsequently kicked over by the shooter. She played dead and actually felt the truck hit her body too.

The Wichita Horror: 20th Anniversary | Frontpage Mag

In the era of Black Lives Matter when, as the indefatigable Colin Flaherty terms it, “the greatest lie of our generation”—the Big Lie that black people “are

www.frontpagemag.com

There are a few horrific incidents in our history that haunt my mind. I cant even reread these. Some things you cant unsee, and left me with the understanding that HALF of humanity is vile scum who shouldn't occupy a place on this planet

So your reaction to a mass causality event is to claim half the people on earth should be exterminated? Sounds like you may understand the emotions that drive folks to these horrific acts.

 

[Pogo]

Unfortunately data does not support your argument about crimes being deterred by more guns being available to the public. If you look at violent crimes in particular, nations with the most relaxed gun laws (The US often leads the world in violent crimes) have more not less violence. This being said, the 2nd Amendment is like the rest of the Bill of Rights, if you start taking away or limiting any of these rights, you pretty much piss them all away. So really, please keep all of your guns but stop using faulty logic to justify it.

Well said.

The OP is one of these yahoos who sees a fire and "helps out" by bringing gasoline to pour on it.

 

[JGalt]

Both of those animals are still on Death Row. One of the things Trump should do before leaving office should be to sign an EO that executes every inmate in this country, who is on Death Row.

Situational awareness in a necessity in these times. I've carried a G19 every day since 2010 and I can guaranfuckingtee you that I'd proactively send one or more murdering criminal shitheads to hell in a heartbeat if I had to. Without a second thought and with no hesitation. That's what Ive trained for and that's what I burn up thousands of rounds every year for.

Then I'd go home and eat dinner with my family, like nothing ever happened.

 

[jwoodie]

Unfortunately data does not support your argument about crimes being deterred by more guns being available to the public

Nice attempt, Straw Man, but that is not what the OP said. If you are opposed to carrying guns for self-defense, just say so. Gun crimes go down when more people legally carry guns.

Effects of Concealed-Carry Laws on Violent Crime

Analysis of the impact of concealed-carry laws on violent crime in the United States

www.rand.org

 

[Muhammed]

Unfortunately data does not support your argument about crimes being deterred by more guns being available to the public. If you look at violent crimes in particular, nations with the most relaxed gun laws (The US often leads the world in violent crimes) have more not less violence.

Logically, correlation does not imply causation, moron.

 

[miketx]

Unfortunately data does not support your argument about crimes being deterred by more guns being available to the public. If you look at violent crimes in particular, nations with the most relaxed gun laws (The US often leads the world in violent crimes) have more not less violence. This being said, the 2nd Amendment is like the rest of the Bill of Rights, if you start taking away or limiting any of these rights, you pretty much piss them all away. So really, please keep all of your guns but stop using faulty logic to justify it.

Liar.

 

[Pogo]

Unfortunately data does not support your argument about crimes being deterred by more guns being available to the public. If you look at violent crimes in particular, nations with the most relaxed gun laws (The US often leads the world in violent crimes) have more not less violence.

Logically, correlation does not imply causation, moron.

Here's a wag who tries to call out one fallacy by using another.

Can't make this place up.

 

[miketx]

Unfortunately data does not support your argument about crimes being deterred by more guns being available to the public. If you look at violent crimes in particular, nations with the most relaxed gun laws (The US often leads the world in violent crimes) have more not less violence.

Logically, correlation does not imply causation, moron.

Here's a wag who tries to call out one fallacy by using another.

Can't make this place up.

Criminal loving shill.

 

[EL Rich]

Unfortunately data does not support your argument about crimes being deterred by more guns being available to the public. If you look at violent crimes in particular, nations with the most relaxed gun laws (The US often leads the world in violent crimes) have more not less violence.

Logically, correlation does not imply causation, moron.

No, correlation can IMPLY causation it does not prove it.

 

[EL Rich]

Unfortunately data does not support your argument about crimes being deterred by more guns being available to the public

Nice attempt, Straw Man, but that is not what the OP said. If you are opposed to carrying guns for self-defense, just say so. Gun crimes go down when more people legally carry guns.

Effects of Concealed-Carry Laws on Violent Crime

Analysis of the impact of concealed-carry laws on violent crime in the United States

www.rand.org

I do not oppose guns in any way, shape or form. All I am saying is that if you want to justify the 2nd Amendment use the fucking Constitution to do it. We should not have the right to bear arms because we want it, we have it because we NEED it. This is all I have said...who’s the Strawman? You got to do more than read Jordan Peterson to be intellectual, n’est pas?

 

[Muhammed]

Logically, correlation does not imply causation, moron.

No, correlation can IMPLY causation

Bullshit. You're an idiot.

 

[Moonglow]

Both of those animals are still on Death Row. One of the things Trump should do before leaving office should be to sign an EO that executes every inmate in this country, who is on Death Row.

Situational awareness in a necessity in these times. I've carried a G19 every day since 2010 and I can guaranfuckingtee you that I'd proactively send one or more murdering criminal shitheads to hell in a heartbeat if I had to. Without a second thought and with no hesitation. That's what Ive trained for and that's what I burn up thousands of rounds every year for.

Then I'd go home and eat dinner with my family, like nothing ever happened.

The president doesn't have the power.

 

[JGalt]

Both of those animals are still on Death Row. One of the things Trump should do before leaving office should be to sign an EO that executes every inmate in this country, who is on Death Row.

Situational awareness in a necessity in these times. I've carried a G19 every day since 2010 and I can guaranfuckingtee you that I'd proactively send one or more murdering criminal shitheads to hell in a heartbeat if I had to. Without a second thought and with no hesitation. That's what Ive trained for and that's what I burn up thousands of rounds every year for.

Then I'd go home and eat dinner with my family, like nothing ever happened.

The president doesn't have the power.

But he does have the power to expedite federal executions, which what he is doing...

Justice Department rushing to expand execution methods like firing squads for federal death row inmates

 

[jwoodie]

Unfortunately data does not support your argument about crimes being deterred by more guns being available to the public

Nice attempt, Straw Man, but that is not what the OP said. If you are opposed to carrying guns for self-defense, just say so. Gun crimes go down when more people legally carry guns.

Effects of Concealed-Carry Laws on Violent Crime

Analysis of the impact of concealed-carry laws on violent crime in the United States

www.rand.org

I do not oppose guns in any way, shape or form. All I am saying is that if you want to justify the 2nd Amendment use the fucking Constitution to do it. We should not have the right to bear arms because we want it, we have it because we NEED it. This is all I have said...who’s the Strawman? You got to do more than read Jordan Peterson to be intellectual, n’est pas?

I believe people (individually and collectively) have a natural right to self-defense of life and liberty, apart from various interpretations of the 2nd Amendment.

P.S. Who the hell is Jordan Peterson? I don't need others to tell me how or what to think. Touche'?

 

[2aguy]

Unfortunately data does not support your argument about crimes being deterred by more guns being available to the public. If you look at violent crimes in particular, nations with the most relaxed gun laws (The US often leads the world in violent crimes) have more not less violence. This being said, the 2nd Amendment is like the rest of the Bill of Rights, if you start taking away or limiting any of these rights, you pretty much piss them all away. So really, please keep all of your guns but stop using faulty logic to justify it.

And what you don't understand is that it isn't access to guns that increases gun violence....as 27 years of actual experience in the U.S. shows....as more people bought and also carry guns for self defense, our gun crime rate went down, not up. Our gun murder rate went down, not up.

This means, that with increasing gun ownership, there wasn't a rise in gun crime or gun murder...showing that your point is wrong.

The U.S. leads in some violent crime, but it has nothing to do with normal people owning and carrying guns.

Our gun violence problem is a direct result of the policies of the democrat party...the catch and release of violent gun offenders. That drives gun crime in our cities controlled by the democrat party.

Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019...guess what happened...

New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Charts.......two charts, one for murder, one for violent crime....both going down as more people were carrying guns for self defense.

Data Reveals Murders and Violent Crime Decrease as More People Carry Guns - The Truth About Guns

Courtesy Crime Prevention Research Center


John Lott has published his Concealed Carry Permit Holders Across the United States: 2020 and there’s lots of good news in it.

• The number of concealed handgun permits has soared to over 19.48 million – a 34% increase over 2016.
• Seventeen states no longer provide data on all the people who are legally carrying a concealed handgun because people in those states no longer need a permit to carry.
• Permits for women and minorities continue to increase at a much faster rate than for either men or whites.
• Five states now have over 1 million permit holders: Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Pennsylvania, and Texas. Florida is the first state to have over 2 million permits.

And more. On personal note, I’m proud that my own state is one of those with a million-plus. That’s particularly impressive, because the last time I checked, we were only around 700,000; about 1 in 8 adults.

Other goods news is that chart above. It shows the murder rate has declined as the CCW rate increases. That’s not news to TTAG regulars, but it’s nice to see it confirmed for yet another year. In case some gun-grabbing type wants to argue that the murder rate trend is really almost flat, so it doesn’t mean anything, take a look at the CCW vs. violent crime trend. Concealed carry is up while violent crime down.

But the trend is even more noticeable, to the point where one cannot honestly deny it.

Courtesy Crime Prevention Research Center

 

[Carl in Michigan]

These people were minding their own business.......likely believed they were safe......and then evil destroyed their lives. This is one of the cases that impacted my views on self defense and the ability to own and carry guns.

I wonder if you spoke to the victims before they were attacked, if they would have believed this could ever have happened to them....? Would they have told us......No one in my family has ever been a victim of crime.......?

The Carrs’ first victim was 23 year-old Andrew Schreiber. The latter stopped off at a convenience store when the Carrs forced their way into his car and forced him to drive around town while stopping at various ATM machines. Schreiber was eventually made to drive to a field where his captors pistol-whipped him and shot out one of his tires before driving off in another vehicle.

Andrew at least lived. The same could not be said for Ann Walenta, a librarian and cellist in her 50s. Four days after Schreiber was carjacked, abducted, assaulted, and robbed, the two scumbags who attacked him targeted Walenta as she sat parked in her own driveway. The Carrs were looking to commandeer SUVs while forcing their owners to drive to ATM machines. Walenta drove an SUV. When the Carrs approached her, being suspicious of their intentions, Walenta rolled her window down just slightly. Unfortunately, though, it was just enough for them to insert a gun into the opening and blast her multiple times as she tried to drive off.

The attack left her paralyzed from the neck down. Three weeks later, she would die from her injuries—but not before she was able to help the police identify her assailants.

The Carrs’ reign of terror would reach its climax three days later in what can only be described as a series of acts of unadulterated evil.

Jason Befort, a 26 year-old high school science teacher and coach, Bradley Heyka, a 27 year-old financial analyst, and 29 year-old Aaron Sander, who was preparing to enter the priesthood, shared a home. A woman who, for her own protection and for the sake of her own privacy, remains publicly known only as “Holly,” an elementary school teacher, was Befort’s girlfriend. She and her friend Heather Muller, a church pre-school teacher, were staying over.

Shortly after 11:00 PM, the Carr brothers somehow manipulated their way into the home. Armed with guns, they corralled all five of its inhabitants into a bedroom closet—but not before commanding them to remove all of their clothes. Then, over a span of the next couple of hours, hell was unleashed as the Carrs took turns raping Holly and Heather and forcing their victims to perform sexual acts upon one another.

Holly and Heather were forced to digitally and orally penetrate one another. Jason was ordered to have sex with Holly, but when the Carrs discovered that they were a couple, they were made to stop and Brad Heyka and Aaron Sander were assigned the task. Sander’s initial refusal to comply was met with the butt of a pistol to the back of his head.

Holly was sent back to the closet and Heather was brought forth so that Sander could have sex with her. When he couldn’t get an erection, the Carrs beat him with a golf club. They then warned him that if he couldn’t get erect within the next two minutes, that they were going to kill him. Time passed and Sander, evidently unable to get aroused with a gun to his head, was nevertheless not killed.

At least he wasn’t killed at that moment.

During the midst of this ordeal, one Carr brother would drive their prey to the bank while the other would stay behind and sexually torment the others.

They also rummaged around throughout the house looking for money. In doing so, they discovered a diamond ring.

It was the ring that Jason Befort was planning on giving to Holly when he proposed to her the following Friday night. “That’s for you,” he told Holly. “I was going to ask you to marry me.”

The Carrs decided that they were going to end the evening by taking their victims for a ride. Upon realizing that the trunk of Sander’s Honda Accord wasn’t sufficiently spacious to accommodate five people, they chose instead to squeeze the three men into it. Jonathan Carr would drive the Honda with Heather Muller as his passenger, and Reginald Carr would drive Jason Befort’s truck with Holly by his side.

They arrived at a barren field. In freezing cold temperatures, in the snow and ice, the Carrs made their victims, all of whom were barely dressed, to get down on their knees. Then, as the shivering, traumatized five pleaded for their lives, the Carrs shot them, one at a time, in the backs of their heads.

The monsters weren’t done. They jumped into Befort’s truck and drove over the bodies of the three men and two women who they just disposed of like so much trash.

Four of the five died. Holly, however, survived. What neither she nor the Carrs counted on was her plastic barrette deflecting the bullet to another location of her skull.

Holly felt herself get shot and subsequently kicked over by the shooter. She played dead and actually felt the truck hit her body too.

The Wichita Horror: 20th Anniversary | Frontpage Mag

In the era of Black Lives Matter when, as the indefatigable Colin Flaherty terms it, “the greatest lie of our generation”—the Big Lie that black people “are

www.frontpagemag.com

There are a few horrific incidents in our history that haunt my mind. I cant even reread these. Some things you cant unsee, and left me with the understanding that HALF of humanity is vile scum who shouldn't occupy a place on this planet

So your reaction to a mass causality event is to claim half the people on earth should be exterminated? Sounds like you may understand the emotions that drive folks to these horrific acts.

God will take care of them. 1/3 of humanity will survive "The Great Tribulation."

BTW, you do know that socialism/communism has planned for the extermination of 90% of humanity. Happens EVERT TIME they take control. They don't leave in in God's hands. They will kill you themselves

 

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These people were minding their own business.......likely believed they were safe......and then evil destroyed their lives. This is one of the cases that impacted my views on self defense and the ability to own and carry guns.

I wonder if you spoke to the victims before they were attacked, if they would have believed this could ever have happened to them....? Would they have told us......No one in my family has ever been a victim of crime.......?

The Carrs’ first victim was 23 year-old Andrew Schreiber. The latter stopped off at a convenience store when the Carrs forced their way into his car and forced him to drive around town while stopping at various ATM machines. Schreiber was eventually made to drive to a field where his captors pistol-whipped him and shot out one of his tires before driving off in another vehicle.

Andrew at least lived. The same could not be said for Ann Walenta, a librarian and cellist in her 50s. Four days after Schreiber was carjacked, abducted, assaulted, and robbed, the two scumbags who attacked him targeted Walenta as she sat parked in her own driveway. The Carrs were looking to commandeer SUVs while forcing their owners to drive to ATM machines. Walenta drove an SUV. When the Carrs approached her, being suspicious of their intentions, Walenta rolled her window down just slightly. Unfortunately, though, it was just enough for them to insert a gun into the opening and blast her multiple times as she tried to drive off.

The attack left her paralyzed from the neck down. Three weeks later, she would die from her injuries—but not before she was able to help the police identify her assailants.

The Carrs’ reign of terror would reach its climax three days later in what can only be described as a series of acts of unadulterated evil.

Jason Befort, a 26 year-old high school science teacher and coach, Bradley Heyka, a 27 year-old financial analyst, and 29 year-old Aaron Sander, who was preparing to enter the priesthood, shared a home. A woman who, for her own protection and for the sake of her own privacy, remains publicly known only as “Holly,” an elementary school teacher, was Befort’s girlfriend. She and her friend Heather Muller, a church pre-school teacher, were staying over.

Shortly after 11:00 PM, the Carr brothers somehow manipulated their way into the home. Armed with guns, they corralled all five of its inhabitants into a bedroom closet—but not before commanding them to remove all of their clothes. Then, over a span of the next couple of hours, hell was unleashed as the Carrs took turns raping Holly and Heather and forcing their victims to perform sexual acts upon one another.

Holly and Heather were forced to digitally and orally penetrate one another. Jason was ordered to have sex with Holly, but when the Carrs discovered that they were a couple, they were made to stop and Brad Heyka and Aaron Sander were assigned the task. Sander’s initial refusal to comply was met with the butt of a pistol to the back of his head.

Holly was sent back to the closet and Heather was brought forth so that Sander could have sex with her. When he couldn’t get an erection, the Carrs beat him with a golf club. They then warned him that if he couldn’t get erect within the next two minutes, that they were going to kill him. Time passed and Sander, evidently unable to get aroused with a gun to his head, was nevertheless not killed.

At least he wasn’t killed at that moment.

During the midst of this ordeal, one Carr brother would drive their prey to the bank while the other would stay behind and sexually torment the others.

They also rummaged around throughout the house looking for money. In doing so, they discovered a diamond ring.

It was the ring that Jason Befort was planning on giving to Holly when he proposed to her the following Friday night. “That’s for you,” he told Holly. “I was going to ask you to marry me.”

The Carrs decided that they were going to end the evening by taking their victims for a ride. Upon realizing that the trunk of Sander’s Honda Accord wasn’t sufficiently spacious to accommodate five people, they chose instead to squeeze the three men into it. Jonathan Carr would drive the Honda with Heather Muller as his passenger, and Reginald Carr would drive Jason Befort’s truck with Holly by his side.

They arrived at a barren field. In freezing cold temperatures, in the snow and ice, the Carrs made their victims, all of whom were barely dressed, to get down on their knees. Then, as the shivering, traumatized five pleaded for their lives, the Carrs shot them, one at a time, in the backs of their heads.

The monsters weren’t done. They jumped into Befort’s truck and drove over the bodies of the three men and two women who they just disposed of like so much trash.

Four of the five died. Holly, however, survived. What neither she nor the Carrs counted on was her plastic barrette deflecting the bullet to another location of her skull.

Holly felt herself get shot and subsequently kicked over by the shooter. She played dead and actually felt the truck hit her body too.

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