2 women in Britain brutalized, one killed, two knives, a bottle, and a branch...no guns used....

[2aguy]

yes...neither of these women had the most effective means to stop this monster....they were disarmed by their government....on the up side...no gun was used in the rape or the murder....that's a positive...right?

BBC News - Marvin Samuels jailed for rape and murder

Marvin Samuels, 31, knifed Sharlana Diedrick 16 times, after raping a woman at Welsh Harp Reservoir in London.

At the Old Bailey, Samuels, of Stonebridge, admitted rape and causing grievous bodily harm with intent to rape, but denied murdering Ms Diedrick.

He was cleared of the charge of attempting to murder the rape victim.

During the trial, the court heard Samuels had attacked the stranger, who resembled his on-off girlfriend, with a bottle and piece of wood before raping her, at the reservoir in Neasden.

'Brutal violence'
He then went on to stab 32-year-old Ms Diedrick, the mother of his son, in a car parked outside his home.


You raped her brutally and beat her savagely with a tree branch and a bottle”

Judge Timothy Pontius
Both incidents happened in September 2012.

Samuels would have continued the frenzied attack if he had not hurt his hand, the court heard.

Sentencing Samuels, Judge Timothy Pontius told him: "These three crimes are all individually horrifying in the extent of the mere brutality with which they were committed.

"Taken together, they represent a level of violent behaviour carried out during a period of just a few hours that I have rarely encountered.

"You went out armed with at least one knife that day and by the time you murdered Sharlana Diedrick you had two knives."

Sharlana Diedrick suffered 16 stab wounds

Well, this is the world that the anti gunners prefer....the victims had no access to guns, the violent rapist and murderer did not use a gun....so two women faced one stronger, violent male....and had no way to counter his physical advantages....

One was raped the other murdered.....

 

[Mr. H.]

Yup.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Awful I hope the guy gets put away for life. Of course in the U.S. there is a much greater likelihood that both of the women would have died in the attack according to statistics. I wonder why.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Awful I hope the guy gets put away for life. Of course in the U.S. there is a much greater likelihood that both of the women would have died in the attack according to statistics. I wonder why.

Read the OP before replying you moron. A moment of reflection and comprehension wouldn't hurt either.

 

[Wake]

Women should be armed with deadly force in order to protect themselves from these f****** bastards.

 

[2aguy]

Of course in the U.S. there is a much greater likelihood that both of the women would have died in the attack according to statistics. I wonder why.

And according to research the best way to prevent a violent rape is to use a gun.....I wonder why?

rape more likely stopped with guns...

Guns Effective Defense Against Rape

I wish to single out one particular subtype of physical resistance: Use of a weapon, and especially a firearm, is statistically a woman's best means of resistance, greatly enhancing her odds of escaping both rape and injury, compared to any other strategy of physical or verbal resistance. This conclusion is drawn from four types of information.

First, a 1989 study (Furby, Journal of Interpersonal Violence) found that both male and female survey respondents judged a gun to be the most effective means that a potential rape victim could use to fend off the assault. Rape "experts" considered it a close second, after eye-gouging.

Second, raw data from the 1979-1985 installments of the Justice Department's annual National Crime Victim Survey show that when a woman resists a stranger rape with a gun, the probability of completion was 0.1 percent and of victim injury 0.0 percent, compared to 31 percent and 40 percent, respectively, for all stranger rapes (Kleck, Social Problems, 1990).

Third, a recent paper (Southwick, Journal of Criminal Justice, 2000) analyzed victim resistance to violent crimes generally, with robbery, aggravated assault and rape considered together. Women who resisted with a gun were 2.5 times more likely to escape without injury than those who did not resist and 4 times more likely to escape uninjured than those who resisted with any means other than a gun. Similarly, their property losses in a robbery were reduced more than six-fold and almost three-fold, respectively, compared to the other categories of resistance strategy.

Fourth, we have two studies in the last 20 years that directly address the outcomes of women who resist attempted rape with a weapon. (Lizotte, Journal of Quantitative Criminology, 1986; Kleck, Social Problems, 1990.) The former concludes, "Further, women who resist rape with a gun or knife dramatically decrease their probability of completion." (Lizotte did not analyze victim injuries apart from the rape itself.) The latter concludes that "resistance with a gun or knife is the most effective form of resistance for preventing completion of a rape"; this is accomplished "without creating any significant additional risk of other injury."