19 Minutes...That’s When the Leftist Attack on the Constitution Began

[alang1216]

Just to be accurate, you're lying. California OPENLY encourages illegal aliens to vote.

No, just more BS. They encourage illegal aliens to register to drive. Federal law does not prohibit non-citizens from voting in state or local elections, but no state has allowed non-citizens to vote in state elections since Arkansas became the last state to outlaw non-citizen voting in 1926. San Francisco in November will become the largest city in the nation to allow non-citizens the chance to vote in a local election.

You Communists and your lies.

{
SEC. 6.
Section 2268 of the Elections Code is amended to read:


2268.
If a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered or preregistered to vote pursuant to this chapter in the absence of a violation by that person of Section 18100, that person’s registration or preregistration shall be presumed to have been effected with official authorization and not the fault of that person.}

Bill Text - AB-1407 California New Motor Voter Program: voter registration.

California ENCOURAGES voting by illegal aliens.

More BS. 2268 does allow ineligible voters to vote, it only means they are not criminally liable if they didn't intend to vote illegally. If you continued to read you'd find:

SEC. 8.
Section 2270 of the Elections Code is amended to read:
2270.
The Secretary of State shall adopt regulations to implement this chapter, including regulations addressing both of the following:
(a) A process for canceling the registration or preregistration of a person who is ineligible to vote, but became registered or preregistered under the California New Motor Voter Program in the absence of any violation by that person of Section 18100.

So, California AUTOMATICALLY registers illegal aliens to vote and then the registration shall be presumed to have been effected with official authorization and not the fault of that person.

California ENCOURAGES illegal aliens to vote in national elections. Fact.

Still more BS:

SECTION 1.
Section 2263 of the Elections Code is amended to read:
2263.
(a) The Department of Motor Vehicles, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall establish a schedule and method for the department to electronically provide to the Secretary of State the records specified in this section.
(b) (1) The department shall provide to the Secretary of State, in a manner and method to be determined by the department in consultation with the Secretary of State, the following information associated with each person who submits an application for a driver’s license or identification card pursuant to Section 12800, 12815, or 13000 of the Vehicle Code, or who notifies the department of a change of address pursuant to Section 14600 of the Vehicle Code:

(K) A notation that the applicant has attested that he or she meets all voter eligibility requirements, including United States citizenship, specified in Section 2101 and, as applicable, the preregistration eligibility requirements in subdivision (d) of Section 2102.

 

[alang1216]

Just to be accurate: The people spoke but the Electoral College negated their choice.

Nobody ever heard of that pesky "electoral college" thing until evil Trump sneaked it in there!

Dems only have issue with the EC when they lose.

If a Republican wins the popular vote but loses the EC vote, few, if any will be calling for elimination of the EC. I can honestly say I would not call for elimination of the EC. The EC makes vote in Montana equal to a vote in California.

Actually, the EC makes a vote in Montana equal to several California or Texas votes.

Really Comrade? In 2016, the state of California had 56 Electoral votes, the state of Montana had 3.

The actual numbers show that every Montana voter is worth 2 CA voters so they have twice the influence in Presidential elections:

Population EC Votes Voters per EC Vote
California 39,536,653 56 706,012
Montana 1,074,532 3 358,177

 

[Cellblock2429]

Reminder: WaPo declared impeachment campaign started 19 minutes after President was sworn in
These people are disgusting. You lost. The people have spoken through the Constitution of the United States of America. Now you want to overthrow the government? Go ahead. Blood will spill in this country if you communists think you can win a victory the Soviets couldn’t between 1945-1991.

Just to be accurate: The people spoke but the Electoral College negated their choice.

Trump won 30 states you fucking piece of shit. All of you are worthy of a traitors death you fucking worthless god damn sock puppet.

You are all fucking losers and I hope I get to see the day the fucking worm turns on you fucking losers.

So the American States elected Trump, the American People did not. Got it.

You need to work on your anger issues, you'll live longer.

/——/ You vote for the elector who votes for the president. Winner takes all. That’s how it works.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Reminder: WaPo declared impeachment campaign started 19 minutes after President was sworn in
These people are disgusting. You lost. The people have spoken through the Constitution of the United States of America. Now you want to overthrow the government? Go ahead. Blood will spill in this country if you communists think you can win a victory the Soviets couldn’t between 1945-1991.

Just to be accurate: The people spoke but the Electoral College negated their choice.

/——-/ The Yankees spoke in 1960 but still lost the Series. How come the team with the most runs losses?
Despite losing the series, the Yankees scored 55 runs, the most runs scored by any one team in World Series history, and more than twice as many as the Pirates, who scored 27. The Yankees won three blowouts (16–3, 10–0, and 12–0), while the Pirates won four close games (6–4, 3–2, 5–2, and 10–9) to win the series. The Series MVP was Bobby Richardson of the Yankees, the only time in history that the award has been given to a member of the losing team.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Dems only have issue with the EC when they lose.

If a Republican wins the popular vote but loses the EC vote, few, if any will be calling for elimination of the EC. I can honestly say I would not call for elimination of the EC. The EC makes vote in Montana equal to a vote in California.

Yeah, of course.
Democrats loved that Big Blue impenetrable wall - until it wasn't.
The EC gives a huge advantage to the Dems.

Then why has it always worked in favor of Republicans when the popular vote has differed from the EC vote?

Define “always worked in favor of Republicans.” 2012? 2008? 1996? 1992? How about this.... if NY, CA, and IL consistently voted Republican, would you still be making the argument for EC abolishment?

Every time the popular vote has differed from the Electoral College, a Republican has been elected.

What has been the frequency? 3 times in 100 years? Twice in the last 20? So you basically have to sell the American Voter why it is necessary that New York, California, and Illinois will determine the Election once we get rid of the Electoral College.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Just to be accurate: The people spoke but the Electoral College negated their choice.

Nobody ever heard of that pesky "electoral college" thing until evil Trump sneaked it in there!

Dems only have issue with the EC when they lose.

If a Republican wins the popular vote but loses the EC vote, few, if any will be calling for elimination of the EC. I can honestly say I would not call for elimination of the EC. The EC makes vote in Montana equal to a vote in California.

Actually, the EC makes a vote in Montana equal to several California or Texas votes.

Really Comrade? In 2016, the state of California had 56 Electoral votes, the state of Montana had 3.

I said a vote. Why are you bringing EC votes into this conversation?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Nobody ever heard of that pesky "electoral college" thing until evil Trump sneaked it in there!

Dems only have issue with the EC when they lose.

If a Republican wins the popular vote but loses the EC vote, few, if any will be calling for elimination of the EC. I can honestly say I would not call for elimination of the EC. The EC makes vote in Montana equal to a vote in California.

Actually, the EC makes a vote in Montana equal to several California or Texas votes.

Really Comrade? In 2016, the state of California had 56 Electoral votes, the state of Montana had 3.

The actual numbers show that every Montana voter is worth 2 CA voters so they have twice the influence in Presidential elections:

Population EC Votes Voters per EC Vote
California 39,536,653 56 706,012
Montana 1,074,532 3 358,177

Wow. Imagine if Montana had 20 more EC votes. Then, California would really be in trouble with Montana.

 

[alang1216]

Reminder: WaPo declared impeachment campaign started 19 minutes after President was sworn in
These people are disgusting. You lost. The people have spoken through the Constitution of the United States of America. Now you want to overthrow the government? Go ahead. Blood will spill in this country if you communists think you can win a victory the Soviets couldn’t between 1945-1991.

Just to be accurate: The people spoke but the Electoral College negated their choice.

/——-/ The Yankees spoke in 1960 but still lost the Series. How come the team with the most runs losses?
Despite losing the series, the Yankees scored 55 runs, the most runs scored by any one team in World Series history, and more than twice as many as the Pirates, who scored 27. The Yankees won three blowouts (16–3, 10–0, and 12–0), while the Pirates won four close games (6–4, 3–2, 5–2, and 10–9) to win the series. The Series MVP was Bobby Richardson of the Yankees, the only time in history that the award has been given to a member of the losing team.

So which was the better team? If they played a game every day for 4 years, do you think the Pirates would still have won more games?

 

[Cellblock2429]

Reminder: WaPo declared impeachment campaign started 19 minutes after President was sworn in
These people are disgusting. You lost. The people have spoken through the Constitution of the United States of America. Now you want to overthrow the government? Go ahead. Blood will spill in this country if you communists think you can win a victory the Soviets couldn’t between 1945-1991.

Just to be accurate: The people spoke but the Electoral College negated their choice.

/——-/ The Yankees spoke in 1960 but still lost the Series. How come the team with the most runs losses?
Despite losing the series, the Yankees scored 55 runs, the most runs scored by any one team in World Series history, and more than twice as many as the Pirates, who scored 27. The Yankees won three blowouts (16–3, 10–0, and 12–0), while the Pirates won four close games (6–4, 3–2, 5–2, and 10–9) to win the series. The Series MVP was Bobby Richardson of the Yankees, the only time in history that the award has been given to a member of the losing team.

So which was the better team? If they played a game every day for 4 years, do you think the Pirates would still have won more games?

/----/ Thank you for missing the point.

 

[alang1216]

Reminder: WaPo declared impeachment campaign started 19 minutes after President was sworn in
These people are disgusting. You lost. The people have spoken through the Constitution of the United States of America. Now you want to overthrow the government? Go ahead. Blood will spill in this country if you communists think you can win a victory the Soviets couldn’t between 1945-1991.

Just to be accurate: The people spoke but the Electoral College negated their choice.

/——-/ The Yankees spoke in 1960 but still lost the Series. How come the team with the most runs losses?
Despite losing the series, the Yankees scored 55 runs, the most runs scored by any one team in World Series history, and more than twice as many as the Pirates, who scored 27. The Yankees won three blowouts (16–3, 10–0, and 12–0), while the Pirates won four close games (6–4, 3–2, 5–2, and 10–9) to win the series. The Series MVP was Bobby Richardson of the Yankees, the only time in history that the award has been given to a member of the losing team.

So which was the better team? If they played a game every day for 4 years, do you think the Pirates would still have won more games?

/----/ Thank you for missing the point.

Thank you for ignoring my questions.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Reminder: WaPo declared impeachment campaign started 19 minutes after President was sworn in
These people are disgusting. You lost. The people have spoken through the Constitution of the United States of America. Now you want to overthrow the government? Go ahead. Blood will spill in this country if you communists think you can win a victory the Soviets couldn’t between 1945-1991.

Just to be accurate: The people spoke but the Electoral College negated their choice.

/——-/ The Yankees spoke in 1960 but still lost the Series. How come the team with the most runs losses?
Despite losing the series, the Yankees scored 55 runs, the most runs scored by any one team in World Series history, and more than twice as many as the Pirates, who scored 27. The Yankees won three blowouts (16–3, 10–0, and 12–0), while the Pirates won four close games (6–4, 3–2, 5–2, and 10–9) to win the series. The Series MVP was Bobby Richardson of the Yankees, the only time in history that the award has been given to a member of the losing team.

So which was the better team? If they played a game every day for 4 years, do you think the Pirates would still have won more games?

/----/ Thank you for missing the point.

Thank you for ignoring my questions.

/----/ The Yankees were a better team.

 

[alang1216]

/----/ The Yankees were a better team.

I guess we can agree that the winner is not always the best choice or the most deserving.

 

[Billiejeens]

/----/ The Yankees were a better team.

I guess we can agree that the winner is not always the best choice or the most deserving.

You sound like a child
Are you 9?

 

[OKTexas]

See post 161, dumb ass.

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So which part of Article 4, Section 4 address who is allowed to vote in local elections?

The portion I highlighted. I guess you're too stupid to know that localities are political subdivisions of the States and are legally bound to the same standards. You can pretend that little commie enclaves like SF can set their own rules, that doesn't comport with reality. Non-citizens have no right to vote in any election and you commies can't change that.

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You can derive election rules from: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government?
Fat chance.

Where does the CA constitution say that "localities are political subdivisions of the States and are legally bound to the same standards"? Or did you make that up too?

Everyone who takes an oath of office in the US swears to support and defend the Constitution of the US, that includes the fags in SF. Now show me in the Constitution where it authorizes anyone but citizens to vote.

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The Constitution addresses who can vote in national elections only. It does not address State and certainly not local elections.

You're free to pretend anything you want, the FACT is the Constitution confers the same form of government on the States and localities as it does the Federal Government. So go on back to your fantasy land and play with the other children.

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[daveman]

Just to be accurate, you're lying. California OPENLY encourages illegal aliens to vote.

No, just more BS. They encourage illegal aliens to register to drive. Federal law does not prohibit non-citizens from voting in state or local elections, but no state has allowed non-citizens to vote in state elections since Arkansas became the last state to outlaw non-citizen voting in 1926. San Francisco in November will become the largest city in the nation to allow non-citizens the chance to vote in a local election.

You Communists and your lies.

{
SEC. 6.
Section 2268 of the Elections Code is amended to read:


2268.
If a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered or preregistered to vote pursuant to this chapter in the absence of a violation by that person of Section 18100, that person’s registration or preregistration shall be presumed to have been effected with official authorization and not the fault of that person.}

Bill Text - AB-1407 California New Motor Voter Program: voter registration.

California ENCOURAGES voting by illegal aliens.

More BS. 2268 does allow ineligible voters to vote, it only means they are not criminally liable if they didn't intend to vote illegally. If you continued to read you'd find:

SEC. 8.
Section 2270 of the Elections Code is amended to read:
2270.
The Secretary of State shall adopt regulations to implement this chapter, including regulations addressing both of the following:
(a) A process for canceling the registration or preregistration of a person who is ineligible to vote, but became registered or preregistered under the California New Motor Voter Program in the absence of any violation by that person of Section 18100.

So, California AUTOMATICALLY registers illegal aliens to vote and then the registration shall be presumed to have been effected with official authorization and not the fault of that person.

California ENCOURAGES illegal aliens to vote in national elections. Fact.

Still more BS:

SECTION 1.
Section 2263 of the Elections Code is amended to read:
2263.
(a) The Department of Motor Vehicles, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall establish a schedule and method for the department to electronically provide to the Secretary of State the records specified in this section.
(b) (1) The department shall provide to the Secretary of State, in a manner and method to be determined by the department in consultation with the Secretary of State, the following information associated with each person who submits an application for a driver’s license or identification card pursuant to Section 12800, 12815, or 13000 of the Vehicle Code, or who notifies the department of a change of address pursuant to Section 14600 of the Vehicle Code:

(K) A notation that the applicant has attested that he or she meets all voter eligibility requirements, including United States citizenship, specified in Section 2101 and, as applicable, the preregistration eligibility requirements in subdivision (d) of Section 2102.

Oh. The illegals just have to SAY they're citizens. No proof required. Just SAYING so.

Is that good enough for you? Because that's not enough for me.

 

[alang1216]

No, just more BS. They encourage illegal aliens to register to drive. Federal law does not prohibit non-citizens from voting in state or local elections, but no state has allowed non-citizens to vote in state elections since Arkansas became the last state to outlaw non-citizen voting in 1926. San Francisco in November will become the largest city in the nation to allow non-citizens the chance to vote in a local election.

You Communists and your lies.

{
SEC. 6.
Section 2268 of the Elections Code is amended to read:


2268.
If a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered or preregistered to vote pursuant to this chapter in the absence of a violation by that person of Section 18100, that person’s registration or preregistration shall be presumed to have been effected with official authorization and not the fault of that person.}

Bill Text - AB-1407 California New Motor Voter Program: voter registration.

California ENCOURAGES voting by illegal aliens.

More BS. 2268 does allow ineligible voters to vote, it only means they are not criminally liable if they didn't intend to vote illegally. If you continued to read you'd find:

SEC. 8.
Section 2270 of the Elections Code is amended to read:
2270.
The Secretary of State shall adopt regulations to implement this chapter, including regulations addressing both of the following:
(a) A process for canceling the registration or preregistration of a person who is ineligible to vote, but became registered or preregistered under the California New Motor Voter Program in the absence of any violation by that person of Section 18100.

So, California AUTOMATICALLY registers illegal aliens to vote and then the registration shall be presumed to have been effected with official authorization and not the fault of that person.

California ENCOURAGES illegal aliens to vote in national elections. Fact.

Still more BS:

SECTION 1.
Section 2263 of the Elections Code is amended to read:
2263.
(a) The Department of Motor Vehicles, in consultation with the Secretary of State, shall establish a schedule and method for the department to electronically provide to the Secretary of State the records specified in this section.
(b) (1) The department shall provide to the Secretary of State, in a manner and method to be determined by the department in consultation with the Secretary of State, the following information associated with each person who submits an application for a driver’s license or identification card pursuant to Section 12800, 12815, or 13000 of the Vehicle Code, or who notifies the department of a change of address pursuant to Section 14600 of the Vehicle Code:

(K) A notation that the applicant has attested that he or she meets all voter eligibility requirements, including United States citizenship, specified in Section 2101 and, as applicable, the preregistration eligibility requirements in subdivision (d) of Section 2102.

Oh. The illegals just have to SAY they're citizens. No proof required. Just SAYING so.

Is that good enough for you? Because that's not enough for me.

If voting that important to citizens, why don't more than 1/2 vote. Do you really think masses of illegals are going to risk arrest or deportation just to vote? I don't.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Nobody ever heard of that pesky "electoral college" thing until evil Trump sneaked it in there!

Dems only have issue with the EC when they lose.

If a Republican wins the popular vote but loses the EC vote, few, if any will be calling for elimination of the EC. I can honestly say I would not call for elimination of the EC. The EC makes vote in Montana equal to a vote in California.

Actually, the EC makes a vote in Montana equal to several California or Texas votes.

Really Comrade? In 2016, the state of California had 56 Electoral votes, the state of Montana had 3.

The actual numbers show that every Montana voter is worth 2 CA voters so they have twice the influence in Presidential elections:

Population EC Votes Voters per EC Vote
California 39,536,653 56 706,012
Montana 1,074,532 3 358,177

Maybe they should be apportioned per square mile?

Bear in mind this is also the representation in congress. Now what do the Stalinist rulers of California know about the needs of cowboys in Montana?

 

[Uncensored2008]

/——/ You vote for the elector who votes for the president. Winner takes all. That’s how it works.

Yes, but the Stalinists didn't get the results they wanted, so they change the rules.

That is the nature of Stalinism, the rules are whatever benefits the party at any given second. Is it illegal to blackmail Ukraine to stop an investigation into your son? It depends, if it serves the party for it to be illegal, it is. If it harms the party for it to be illegal, then INVESTIGATION of it is impeachable.

The democrats don't recognize or abide by any law or Constitution. Whatever serves the party at any given second is the ONLY law. The Constitution says the "President must Uphold the Laws," but that doesn't serve the party, so the Stalinists alter the Constitution to "The President is FORBIDDEN from upholding laws."

This is life under Stalinism, there is no law, only the capricious desires of the party at any particular second.

 

[alang1216]

Dems only have issue with the EC when they lose.

If a Republican wins the popular vote but loses the EC vote, few, if any will be calling for elimination of the EC. I can honestly say I would not call for elimination of the EC. The EC makes vote in Montana equal to a vote in California.

Actually, the EC makes a vote in Montana equal to several California or Texas votes.

Really Comrade? In 2016, the state of California had 56 Electoral votes, the state of Montana had 3.

The actual numbers show that every Montana voter is worth 2 CA voters so they have twice the influence in Presidential elections:

Population EC Votes Voters per EC Vote
California 39,536,653 56 706,012
Montana 1,074,532 3 358,177

Maybe they should be apportioned per square mile?

Bear in mind this is also the representation in congress. Now what do the Stalinist rulers of California know about the needs of cowboys in Montana?

Apportioning per square mile would skew the results even more. What do the cowboys in Montana know about the needs of California? The cowboys influence in CA is twice the influence of CA on the cowboys.

It's not really a case of state vs state, it is more a case of urban vs rural. That ratio has changed dramatically since the days of the Founding Fathers but the system has not. Adapt or perish is a law of nature.

 

[Uncensored2008]

If a Republican wins the popular vote but loses the EC vote, few, if any will be calling for elimination of the EC. I can honestly say I would not call for elimination of the EC. The EC makes vote in Montana equal to a vote in California.

Actually, the EC makes a vote in Montana equal to several California or Texas votes.

Really Comrade? In 2016, the state of California had 56 Electoral votes, the state of Montana had 3.

The actual numbers show that every Montana voter is worth 2 CA voters so they have twice the influence in Presidential elections:

Population EC Votes Voters per EC Vote
California 39,536,653 56 706,012
Montana 1,074,532 3 358,177

Maybe they should be apportioned per square mile?

Bear in mind this is also the representation in congress. Now what do the Stalinist rulers of California know about the needs of cowboys in Montana?

Apportioning per square mile would skew the results even more. What do the cowboys in Montana know about the needs of California? The cowboys influence in CA is twice the influence of CA on the cowboys.

It's not really a case of state vs state, it is more a case of urban vs rural. That ratio has changed dramatically since the days of the Founding Fathers but the system has not. Adapt or perish is a law of nature.

Bottom line, under a Stalinist system, when the results are not what the party wants, change the rules. The Constitution is an impediment to power for the party, hence you demand it be discarded. Oh, and the Cowboy influence on the densely packed barrios of California ARE over twice that of the reciprocal. Montana provides food that would be sorely missed. Only the Silicone Valley Oligarchs would notice if 9 million illegals were to suddenly vanish. "Carlos, why is the south lawn not mowed?" "Jesus and his compadres no trabajo today, Senor Zuckerberg"