1.25 Million Arabs Live and Worship in Israel

[Meathead]

Oh, FFS! We all know what a UN Security Counsel resolution means. The last one that had any teeth was when the USSR walked out and Taiwan was representing China; Korea.

The quintessential tempest in a teapot.

 

[turzovka]

Are you being serious? That is from the Zionist website called Jewish Virtual Library. No wonder you are brainwashed.

Le Monde Diplomatique, which I linked to is a resource for historians and academics.

I knew that was all you could say.

Can't say I blame you for not checking all their footnotes and sources, which are often not Jewish.

Don't bother. I know I am right. I also know neither of us will change the other's mind.

 

[montelatici]

Are you being serious? That is from the Zionist website called Jewish Virtual Library. No wonder you are brainwashed.

Le Monde Diplomatique, which I linked to is a resource for historians and academics.

I knew that was all you could say.

Can't say I blame you for not checking all their footnotes and sources, which are often not Jewish.

Don't bother. I know I am right. I also know neither of us will change the other's mind.

Propaganda sites publish propaganda, that's why they exist. You are simply brainwashed because you have only been exposed to pro-Zionist propaganda. I post fact.

 

[Lipush]

Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal

"Today, a Jew from any country can move to Israel, while a Palestinian refugee, with a valid claim to property in Israel, cannot. And although Palestinians make up about 20 percent of Israel’s population, the 2012 budget allocates less than 7 percent for Palestinian citizens.

Tragically for Palestinians, Zionism requires the state to empower and maintain a Jewish majority even at the expense of its non-Jewish citizens, and the occupation of the West Bank is only one part of it. What exists today between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea is therefore essentially one state, under Israeli control, where Palestinians have varying degrees of limited rights: 1.5 million are second-class citizens, and four million more are not citizens at all. If this is not apartheid, then whatever it is, it’s certainly not democracy."

Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal

Fail.

If someone, Arab or Jew, want to move to Israel, most chances they have no citizenship as of yet- blue ID.

Once they both HAVE blue ID... They're equals.

That's the thing about anti-Israelis. They don't care about being true to the facts or following common logic.

What about the Palestinian citizens of Israel who cannot live on their own land?

"Palestinian citizens of Israel" is propaganda invented by Anti-Israelis

You either have blue ID or oragne ID. If it is blue ID you have, then your state is Israel and therefore that is a none issue.

 

[Shusha]

1. This is just one example, the deed and the key to the home.

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That is a well-used stock image. No chance to trace its source and thus verify its accuracy or find out more information.
Regardless, it is beyond question that a great many people were displaced during the conflict -- more than 500,000 Arabs and more than a million Jews. So what is your point? That its unfair? Of course its unfair. That everyone, and all their descendants should go back to where they were living in 1948? Don't be ridiculous, that egg can't be unbroken.

 

[Shusha]

Why aren't Jews permitted to live in Palestine?

 

[Lipush]

Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal

"Today, a Jew from any country can move to Israel, while a Palestinian refugee, with a valid claim to property in Israel, cannot. And although Palestinians make up about 20 percent of Israel’s population, the 2012 budget allocates less than 7 percent for Palestinian citizens.

Tragically for Palestinians, Zionism requires the state to empower and maintain a Jewish majority even at the expense of its non-Jewish citizens, and the occupation of the West Bank is only one part of it. What exists today between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea is therefore essentially one state, under Israeli control, where Palestinians have varying degrees of limited rights: 1.5 million are second-class citizens, and four million more are not citizens at all. If this is not apartheid, then whatever it is, it’s certainly not democracy."

Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal

Fail.

If someone, Arab or Jew, want to move to Israel, most chances they have no citizenship as of yet- blue ID.

Once they both HAVE blue ID... They're equals.

That's the thing about anti-Israelis. They don't care about being true to the facts or following common logic.

I believe the Israeli Arab author before I will believe you.

I will believe you like I believed the white South Africans regarding the non-white South Africans during apartheid.

It is not a question of whom to believe, smartass. It is about staying loyal to the fact.if someone is not yet a citizen they cannot say he's the proof of discrimination against citizens. Get it? Or you want me to explain in a "logic for dummies" method?

 

[montelatici]

What million Jews were displaced, there were only 20,000 Jews in all of the Arab partition. You are such a liar. You just can't help making things up. There are thousands of deeds to land in what is now Israel held by Palestinians in the Diaspora. Here is another one.

 

[Lipush]

Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal

"Today, a Jew from any country can move to Israel, while a Palestinian refugee, with a valid claim to property in Israel, cannot. And although Palestinians make up about 20 percent of Israel’s population, the 2012 budget allocates less than 7 percent for Palestinian citizens.

Tragically for Palestinians, Zionism requires the state to empower and maintain a Jewish majority even at the expense of its non-Jewish citizens, and the occupation of the West Bank is only one part of it. What exists today between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea is therefore essentially one state, under Israeli control, where Palestinians have varying degrees of limited rights: 1.5 million are second-class citizens, and four million more are not citizens at all. If this is not apartheid, then whatever it is, it’s certainly not democracy."

Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal

Fail.

If someone, Arab or Jew, want to move to Israel, most chances they have no citizenship as of yet- blue ID.

Once they both HAVE blue ID... They're equals.

That's the thing about anti-Israelis. They don't care about being true to the facts or following common logic.

I believe the Israeli Arab author before I will believe you.

I will believe you like I believed the white South Africans regarding the non-white South Africans during apartheid.

You would not believe anything I say because I'm Israeli Jewish.

If I was a leftist Arab it would not have been an issue.

Yet I must be the racist one...

 

[Lipush]

Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal

"Today, a Jew from any country can move to Israel, while a Palestinian refugee, with a valid claim to property in Israel, cannot. And although Palestinians make up about 20 percent of Israel’s population, the 2012 budget allocates less than 7 percent for Palestinian citizens.

Tragically for Palestinians, Zionism requires the state to empower and maintain a Jewish majority even at the expense of its non-Jewish citizens, and the occupation of the West Bank is only one part of it. What exists today between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea is therefore essentially one state, under Israeli control, where Palestinians have varying degrees of limited rights: 1.5 million are second-class citizens, and four million more are not citizens at all. If this is not apartheid, then whatever it is, it’s certainly not democracy."

Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal

Fail.

If someone, Arab or Jew, want to move to Israel, most chances they have no citizenship as of yet- blue ID.

Once they both HAVE blue ID... They're equals.

That's the thing about anti-Israelis. They don't care about being true to the facts or following common logic.

What's the process for a Jewish person to get the permanent residency necessary for a blue ID compared to an Muslim, Palestinian, or Christian?

I guess it depends on where they live, what is their history and why they are asking for that ID

 

[montelatici]

Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal

"Today, a Jew from any country can move to Israel, while a Palestinian refugee, with a valid claim to property in Israel, cannot. And although Palestinians make up about 20 percent of Israel’s population, the 2012 budget allocates less than 7 percent for Palestinian citizens.

Tragically for Palestinians, Zionism requires the state to empower and maintain a Jewish majority even at the expense of its non-Jewish citizens, and the occupation of the West Bank is only one part of it. What exists today between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea is therefore essentially one state, under Israeli control, where Palestinians have varying degrees of limited rights: 1.5 million are second-class citizens, and four million more are not citizens at all. If this is not apartheid, then whatever it is, it’s certainly not democracy."

Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal

Fail.

If someone, Arab or Jew, want to move to Israel, most chances they have no citizenship as of yet- blue ID.

Once they both HAVE blue ID... They're equals.

That's the thing about anti-Israelis. They don't care about being true to the facts or following common logic.

I believe the Israeli Arab author before I will believe you.

I will believe you like I believed the white South Africans regarding the non-white South Africans during apartheid.

It is not a question of whom to believe, smartass. It is about staying loyal to the fact.if someone is not yet a citizen they cannot say he's the proof of discrimination against citizens. Get it? Or you want me to explain in a "logic for dummies" method?

Listen jerkoff you don't know what the term discrimination means. Here is a simple test.

Jew from India wants to immigrate to Israel. What does he have to do?

Christian of Palestinian descent from Chile wants to immigrate to Israel. What does he have to do?

If the process is different, there is discrimination. Get it?

 

[Lipush]

The "law of return" is intended to make it easier to immigrate to Israel for Jews. That is correct. But that law is not for citizens.

 

[Lipush]

Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal

"Today, a Jew from any country can move to Israel, while a Palestinian refugee, with a valid claim to property in Israel, cannot. And although Palestinians make up about 20 percent of Israel’s population, the 2012 budget allocates less than 7 percent for Palestinian citizens.

Tragically for Palestinians, Zionism requires the state to empower and maintain a Jewish majority even at the expense of its non-Jewish citizens, and the occupation of the West Bank is only one part of it. What exists today between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea is therefore essentially one state, under Israeli control, where Palestinians have varying degrees of limited rights: 1.5 million are second-class citizens, and four million more are not citizens at all. If this is not apartheid, then whatever it is, it’s certainly not democracy."

Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal

Fail.

If someone, Arab or Jew, want to move to Israel, most chances they have no citizenship as of yet- blue ID.

Once they both HAVE blue ID... They're equals.

That's the thing about anti-Israelis. They don't care about being true to the facts or following common logic.

I believe the Israeli Arab author before I will believe you.

I will believe you like I believed the white South Africans regarding the non-white South Africans during apartheid.

It is not a question of whom to believe, smartass. It is about staying loyal to the fact.if someone is not yet a citizen they cannot say he's the proof of discrimination against citizens. Get it? Or you want me to explain in a "logic for dummies" method?

Listen jerkoff you don't know what the term discrimination means. Here is a simple test.

Jew from India wants to immigrate to Israel. What does he have to do?

Christian of Palestinian descent from Chile wants to immigrate to Israel. What does he have to do?

If the process is different, there is discrimination. Get it?

Let's talk descrimination further.

What does an Israeli Arab to do to go living in Tel Aviv?

What do I have to do to live in Rahat?

Why do Arab students in my college get to pay half price for studies and dorms while I have to pay 40 thousend per year?

If it is descrimination were discussing.

 

[Shusha]

You don't have to convince me that people were displaced, monte. I am fully aware that they were. The question is: why bring it up?

 

[turzovka]

You would not believe anything I say because I'm Israeli Jewish.

If I was a leftist Arab it would not have been an issue.

Yet I must be the racist one...

Pleased to meet you. Some of us here in the States have great admiration for Israel and what it has had to endure since the early years of the 20th century.

You probably can see how many blind adversaries there are in the USA and Western Europe who either know nothing about the truth of this ageless conflict, or who choose to listen only to their anti-semitic professors, their cowardly politicians, and the sickening agenda-driven mainstream media. Just maybe Trump can overcome all that.

 

[Lipush]

Thank you.

 

[Weatherman2020]

They serve in the Israeli military and are elected members of the Israeli government.

Number of Jews Palestinian Authority allows to live in Jewish settlements in Palestinian Authority: 0

Number of times Jerusalem is mentioned in the Old Testament: over 700
Number of times Jerusalem is mentioned in the Koran: 0

Number of Jewish countries: 1
Number of Jewish democracies: 1
Number of Arab countries: 19
Number of Arab democracies: 0

Number of terrorist attacks by Israelis or Jews since 1967: 1
Number of terrorist attacks by Arabs or Muslims since 1967: thousands

Number of Jewish states that have existed on the land called Palestine: 3
Number of Arab or Muslim states that have existed on the land called Palestine: 0

Number of U.N. General Assembly resolutions condemning Israel: 322
Number of U.N. General Assembly resolutions condemning an Arab country: 0

As the Sudan killed hundreds of thousands of Christians in a mass genocide, the UN was criticizing Israel for building a wall.

Amazing.

Not only were there resolutions against Sudan, an arrest warrant for its president was issued. You are so full of shit, like all Zionists.

"Last week’s move by the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, or ICC, to seek an arrest warrant for Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir....."

IRRESOLUTION: The U.N. Security Council on Darfur | Enough Project

Typical fascist leftard. Thinks a piece of paper from the UN is meaningful.
Sudan has been conducting a mass genocide against Christians for close to two decades now, sending millions fleeing.
While your precious UN did nothing.

 

[Shusha]

Listen jerkoff you don't know what the term discrimination means. Here is a simple test.

Jew from India wants to immigrate to Israel. What does he have to do?

Christian of Palestinian descent from Chile wants to immigrate to Israel. What does he have to do?

If the process is different, there is discrimination. Get it?

Preferential treatment given to those belonging to an ethnic or national group is the accepted norm for nation-building these days -- the formation of a State around a group of people belonging to the same ethnic group. It is the basis of nearly all nations formed since WWII and the drive for national self-determination of all groups currently seeking to do so -- including the Palestinians.

Preferential immigration based on belonging to that group, or having family origins in that group, (citizenship based on jus sanguinis) is an accepted and normative immigration policy of dozens of nations worldwide. Do you have a problem with me immigrating to Ireland because my ancestors are from Ireland? Or my nieces and nephews obtaining American citizenship because their grandmother is American? It is true that Israel adopted an expanded form of this policy when forming their nation post WWII -- wanting to ensure a safe place for ALL of the Jewish people in the future.

I would assume you would NOT argue that if a Palestinian State is formed, that Palestinians should get preferential treatment for immigration to Palestine.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal

"Today, a Jew from any country can move to Israel, while a Palestinian refugee, with a valid claim to property in Israel, cannot. And although Palestinians make up about 20 percent of Israel’s population, the 2012 budget allocates less than 7 percent for Palestinian citizens.

Tragically for Palestinians, Zionism requires the state to empower and maintain a Jewish majority even at the expense of its non-Jewish citizens, and the occupation of the West Bank is only one part of it. What exists today between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea is therefore essentially one state, under Israeli control, where Palestinians have varying degrees of limited rights: 1.5 million are second-class citizens, and four million more are not citizens at all. If this is not apartheid, then whatever it is, it’s certainly not democracy."

Not All Israeli Citizens Are Equal

Of course Palestinians are not at liberty to live in Israel. The Palestinian Charter calls for the genocide of all Jews. It would be like allowing ISIS to live in the US.

1.25 Arabs live and worship freely in Israel, and one Jew living in the West Bank is justification for you freaks to slit the throats of babies.

 

[Weatherman2020]

"Today, a Jew from any country can move to Israel, while a Palestinian refugee, with a valid claim to property in Israel, cannot.

What's that supposed to mean? You mean some "palestinian" "refugee" (both debatable terms) has a valid claim to property in Israel that had to date back to 1948 or earlier? I would like to see that valid claim.

Secondly, every Arab who left Israel in 1948 because their Islamic leaders told them to leave so they could destroy all the Jews in the land. Well they left, but the 7 Arab nations did not accomplish their goal. And, as it were, Israel offered all of the "palestinians" to come back to their properties --- except, they wanted some type of peace agreement with Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, etc. None of them would offer anything of the sort --- and never have to this day! --- except for Sadat in 1978, the lone exception. So if Arafat or any Palestinian leader was willing to make peace, there would be peace. And if they had done it before the 1967 war they would have all of East Jerusalem and the West Bank and Gaza with not a Jewish settlement in sight. So obviously this hatred and attacks were never about "settlements."

I notice you had nothing to say about those "tortured Arabs" having to live under the yoke of Israeli law. I notice you do not assign any blame or responsibility to all these rich Arab nation neighbors to help out or to even allow some Palestinians to emigrate to their countries? No, of course not, only the Jews are we to hate.

1. This is just one example, the deed and the key to the home.

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2. Your bullshit propaganda about the Palestinians being told to leave by the Arab forces:



"“There is no evidence to show that the Arab states and the AHC wanted a mass exodus or issued blanket orders or appeals to the Palestinians to flee their homes (though in certain areas the inhabitants of specific villages were ordered by Arab commanders or the AHC to leave, mainly for strategic reasons).” ("The Birth of the Palestinian Refugee Problem", p. 129). On the contrary, anyone who fled was actually threatened with “severe punishment”. As for the broadcasts by Arab radio stations allegedly calling on people to flee, a detailed listening to recordings of their programmes of that period shows that the claims were invented for pure propaganda........................... report prepared by the intelligence services of the Israeli army, dated 30 June 1948 and entitled “The emigration of Palestinian Arabs in the period 1/12/1947-1/6/1948”. This document sets at 391,000 the number of Palestinians who had already left the territory that was by then in the hands of Israel, and evaluates the various factors that had prompted their decisions to leave. “At least 55% of the total of the exodus was caused by our (Haganah/IDF) operations.” To this figure, the report’s compilers add the operations of the Irgun and Lehi, which “directly (caused) some 15%... of the emigration”. A further 2% was attributed to explicit expulsion orders issued by Israeli troops, and 1% to their psychological warfare. This leads to a figure of 73% for departures caused directly by the Israelis. In addition, the report attributes 22% of the departures to “fears” and “a crisis of confidence” affecting the Palestinian population. As for Arab calls for flight, these were reckoned to be significant in only 5% of cases..."

The expulsion of the Palestinians re-examined

Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war...

https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/7D35E1F729DF491C85256EE700686136

Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war...

Not only were there resolutions against Sudan, an arrest warrant for its president was issued.

Shit happens when you lose wars you start, dumbass. Just ask Germany and Japan.