Discussion in 'Religion and Ethics' started by AVG-JOE, Jun 24, 2009.
Soooooooo..... Inquiring minds want to know!
I'm not Yukon, so I can't answer for him. But in my view Jesus is really using the word "father" to mean "God". I mean, I don't know anyone who doesn't call their own father... well... father at some point. Or a variation thereof (Dad, Daddy, Pop etc). SOOOoooo in my view the Catholic church is fine in calling their priests and the pope-erooni "father" because they are not referring to him as God, but rather as the leader of their church or the leader of THE church in the pope's sense. Hardcore catholics believe that God speaks through the pope and that makes him infallible, but God is the one that gives him that power. The pope himself is not infallible without God's help.
Catholic Answers: Karl's E-Letter
Call No Man "Father"?
Call No Man Father: Understanding Matthew 23:9
That very thought was hypothesized in the original post... that and the simple "lost in translation".
I don't buy that. I don't believe that Jesus would tell anyone not to call a parent Father or daddy, but when the Catholics used it as a title for their leadership, and then went on to embellish the title with "Holy" for the man with the biggest hat in the club, I think the congregation missed a golden opportunity to call 'bullshit' on the bullshitters.
I wonder if it would have made a difference if the Catholic Congregation had not been denied access to the scriptures by their leadership back when the title was first adopted?
Interesting. Good research, James. Still leaves the question of the Pope hanging with the title 'Holy' Father.
And as with most good research, it raises at least one more question... Where did Jesus intend for his words to be understood literally, exactly?
we'll just set that alongside indulgences, the sacrifice of the mass, the neo-roman power structure, the anathema against 'faith only' salvation...
take it in context: Call no man your father or master.
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