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    A man has a right to the fruits of his labour. Yet a man also has a right to his life and, by extension, to that which he needs to sustain it- water, shelter, food, and clothing. The just society allows men to keep what they have rightfully earned by their own hand after it has been seen to it that none among its people- most especially the elderly, the children, the ill and infirm-those who cannot provide or care for themselves- are tended to and that none who is willing to work and contribute as he is able is left to starve, to freeze, to die of thirst, or to be left as a dog in the alleyway. The first priority of the good society is to see to it that all the People are afforded the ability to achieve a good standard of living and socio-political parity with his fellows. Those who have accumulated wealth are morally obligated, as they are able, to contribute to this effort. Once this most fundamental objective, this commandment which is placed upon us from a higher source of morality and justice is seen to, then the second priority of the good society is to see to it that those who earn for themselves are not robbed of what is rightfully theirs to satiate the greed of the envious.
     
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    The unproductive are never satisfied with what is taken from the productive.
     
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    Not for nothing, Revere, but what exactly is it you think a Rockefeller or Dupont heir has "produced"?
     
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    Government has no claim on your assets.
     
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    What right have you to take what is theirs simply because you think you should?
     
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    The very question Engels posed to the bourgeoisie who inherited daddy's factory and who took the majority of the proletarians wealth, which he had produced through his own labour.


    Same coin.
     
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    A society that permits undue concentrations of wealth via inheritance will eventually cannabalize itself. I have a legitimate interest in preventing that from occurring.
     
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    The OP promotes a destructive form of altruism in which one is allowed to keep the dregs of one's productivity only after all those in NEED first feed off of him.

    No thank you.
     
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    Perhaps you can name one who sets out to redistriubute it and makes everyone equal.
     
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    " but what exactly is it you think a Rockefeller or Dupont heir has "produced"?"


    or tiger woods?
    or phil mickelson?
    or randy moss?
    or tom brady?
    or derek jeter?
    or peyton manning?

    some kid is good at putting a ball through a hoop and next thing you know he's a multimillionaire...

    meanwhile, people who do REAL WORK (secretaries, janitors, mechanics etc)
    make barely enough to put food on the table for their kids....


    our priorities are all twisted
     

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