"You didn't get there on your own"

[Cecilie1200]

who runs the sewer systems that keep the private business owners land from filling with shit or flooding when it rains?


who polices the area to make sure they dont get robbbed.

who would put the fire out if it caught fire?


How would the customer get to the property if the roads where not there?


who teaches the kids that grow up to be their employees?


Why is it republicans dont want to take part in society?

Yeah Right TM
No Republican ever pays taxes.
Prove that Republicans pay zero taxes.

your whole world revolves arround trying to NOT pay any taxes.


face what you believe is people should not have to pay taxes anymore if they dont want to.

No, lately our world revolves around trying not to pay taxes to support YOUR lazy ass, while being told ALL of our taxes are going to "roads and cops and firemen". Yeah? How much of the NEA's budget goes to roads and cops and firemen? How much of the Department of Agriculture's budget goes there (they administer the Food Stamp program, for those who don't know)?

And then lazy shits like you, who lounge around enjoying all the things that other people's tax dollars pay for, want to tell us that we're greedy because we're sick of being soaked to support your lifestyle and "compassion".

Face it. What you believe is that the government should just own everything, and give us all an allowance to live on.

 

[Cecilie1200]

When are you libs going to give up and stop defending this moron? What does it take to recognize incompetence???

Every time he gets off-prompter his utter ignorance and naive ideology is on display for everyone to see. You people already KNOW that small businesses are taxed to frigging perdition. 94% of our taxes are paid by the top 20% of taxpayers. They're paying more than enough for the use of infrastructure, which btw. belongs to us all and NOT the federal government. Small businesses are not only taxed on their real estate property, but on their inventories, their labor, licensing, and countless other ways. You people SAY you're for the little guy and against big, "heartless", corporations but everything you stand for, higher taxes, more regulations, SUPPORTS big business. The little guy doesn't have a cadre of lawyers guiding him through the jungle of tax and regulatory law.

We DO NOT have a revenue problem. Since 1965, revenue has tripled, and that's in adjusted dollars. But spending has more than quintupled. The interest on our debt alone will be a trillion dollars ANNUALLY by the end of the decade. Go ahead, count to a trillion sometime. It would only take you in excess of 32,000 years by some estimates.

Math doesn't lie, folks. But Obama does. He's standing there, bold as brass, LYING when he insists that these people aren't doing their "fair share". They're doing it ALL, and yet he wants to rob them of more.

why do you spend your entire life trying to lick the ass of the likes of robmoneys five sons?

The alternative is to be an ignorant, lazy, greedy dipshit like you.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Just like a republican to have such a narcissistic and self-centered point of view.
They cannot admit that it takes more than an idea to have it work.
If you think your hard-work alone and your money alone makes a business thrive then you have the narcissistic attitude and reality in now way shape or form can make you see the truth.

So did your hard work make my business thrive?

Did you risk any of your money to start my business?

Did you put in 80 hours a week for the past 5 years building my business?

Are you paying my employees and my bills so my business can stay open?

If you're not then who exactly is keeping my business open if it's not me?

Exactly what I am saying. You are taking all of the credit. The answer is right in front of your narcissistic face.
No one is taking away your effort or your responsibility yet you refuse to credit all the others that helped make a company successful.
If you cannot see that then you prove my point oh! so well.

They already credit those assholes more than they deserve by paying their taxes for all the services that you leftist idiots now want applause for, AND paying enough to subsidize everyone ELSE having those services, too.

 

[Cecilie1200]

This is what happens when you have a President and political party that hates America

We can always count on you for an in-depth analysis of the days events.

While "hates America" is too strong, I think "wants to fundamently change America" is accurate to coin the words of his spouse.

One doesn't try to "fundamentally change" something that one loves as it is. So I think "hates" is perfectly accurate.

 

[Cecilie1200]

I'll bet Romney has paid more in tax and created more jobs than Steven King.

Dunno about the taxes. Stephen King is pretty damned rich himself, and most of his money comes from investments, so he's paying capital gains tax, not income.

Created more jobs? Definitely.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

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Obama is taking an interesting and dangerous approach on the campaign trail, telling successful business owners that they "didn't get there on their own", that their success is predicated in part on the labor and efforts (and taxes) of others. This gives the GOP an opening to say, "see, he hates business owners, we told you so."

On the other hand, it opens up a national conversation that I've never seen before, building on Elizabeth Warren's comments as she runs for office.

This tactic is flying right into the teeth of the GOP's strength, that business and employers are the key to economic success. He's betting that the GOP, so controlled by absolutists right now, is going to look anti-ALL workers, not just union.

Pretty brave, and I think it's a good conversation to have.

Obama Mocks Rich: 'You Didn't Get There On Your Own'

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It's a refrain I always use: No one in America gets there on their own.

 

[tererun]

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Obama is taking an interesting and dangerous approach on the campaign trail, telling successful business owners that they "didn't get there on their own", that their success is predicated in part on the labor and efforts (and taxes) of others. This gives the GOP an opening to say, "see, he hates business owners, we told you so."

On the other hand, it opens up a national conversation that I've never seen before, building on Elizabeth Warren's comments as she runs for office.

This tactic is flying right into the teeth of the GOP's strength, that business and employers are the key to economic success. He's betting that the GOP, so controlled by absolutists right now, is going to look anti-ALL workers, not just union.

Pretty brave, and I think it's a good conversation to have.

Obama Mocks Rich: 'You Didn't Get There On Your Own'

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How is this going to backfire?

First off Romney did not even come close to making it on his own. His parents and grandparents made it for him, and even they had to actually run a business.

The only businesses I know who make it on the hard work and sweat of their owners might be self owned and run businesses with no employees, but even they probably have help from friends, things like the SBA, the government, and they rely on their customers.

If mittens wants to claim he, and he alone, did it then the Obama campaign will have a field day showing his completely misplaced ideas, and that he doesn't care about anyone but himself, and certainly does not care about the people he trashed while at Bain.

It is actually a well planned attack. If Mittens tries to claim he cares about his workers they have some soundbites from him to run against pictures of people who's lives he destroyed at Bain. If Romney ignores it they can go along the line that Romney is way out of touch. If Romney's ego takes over and he declares he is the sole reason for his success they can slam him with the fact he inherited most of it and destroyed the people underneath him.

 

[Mac1958]

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Obama is taking an interesting and dangerous approach on the campaign trail, telling successful business owners that they "didn't get there on their own", that their success is predicated in part on the labor and efforts (and taxes) of others. This gives the GOP an opening to say, "see, he hates business owners, we told you so."

On the other hand, it opens up a national conversation that I've never seen before, building on Elizabeth Warren's comments as she runs for office.

This tactic is flying right into the teeth of the GOP's strength, that business and employers are the key to economic success. He's betting that the GOP, so controlled by absolutists right now, is going to look anti-ALL workers, not just union.

Pretty brave, and I think it's a good conversation to have.

Obama Mocks Rich: 'You Didn't Get There On Your Own'

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How is this going to backfire?

I'm not sure if this is a rhetorical question, but I'll answer it anyway.

As I pointed out, the danger is that he's appearing to do precisely what the GOP has been accusing him of: Being anti-business. No, I'm saying he is anti-business, I'm talking about image, which is pretty much what politics has deteriorated into. The GOP will almost certainly try to bang on this, and we'll see what happens. My guess is that Obama's attacks will be relatively effective, but then I also thought the Broncos were going to the Super Bowl last year.

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[bripat9643]

It's a refrain I always use: No one in America gets there on their own.

How does that entitle the federal government or welfare parasites one additional dime of my money?

Apparently you like to spout meaningless platitudes.

 

[bripat9643]

How is this going to backfire?

First off Romney did not even come close to making it on his own. His parents and grandparents made it for him, and even they had to actually run a business.

Again, how does that justify raising taxes on the rich?

The only businesses I know who make it on the hard work and sweat of their owners might be self owned and run businesses with no employees, but even they probably have help from friends, things like the SBA, the government, and they rely on their customers.

ROFL! Most successful businesses do not get small business loans or help from the government. Solyndra is the kind of business that gets government assistance. The main talent of the executives of such businesses is schmoozing politicians and bureaucats rather then producing a superior product.

If mittens wants to claim he, and he alone, did it then the Obama campaign will have a field day showing his completely misplaced ideas, and that he doesn't care about anyone but himself, and certainly does not care about the people he trashed while at Bain.

If liberal numbskulls like you and Obama want to claim that capitalists aren't entitled to the money the receive, then you unmask yourselves as Marxists who despise capitalism and private property. I doubt that message will go over well with the majority of voters.

It is actually a well planned attack. If Mittens tries to claim he cares about his workers they have some soundbites from him to run against pictures of people who's lives he destroyed at Bain. If Romney ignores it they can go along the line that Romney is way out of touch.

They've already tried both approaches and both have fallen flat.

If Romney's ego takes over and he declares he is the sole reason for his success they can slam him with the fact he inherited most of it and destroyed the people underneath him.

Romney has never claimed any such thing.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

It's a refrain I always use: No one in America gets there on their own.

How does that entitle the federal government or welfare parasites one additional dime of my money?

Apparently you like to spout meaningless platitudes.

go take a suck pill

 

[bripat9643]

It's a refrain I always use: No one in America gets there on their own.

How does that entitle the federal government or welfare parasites one additional dime of my money?

Apparently you like to spout meaningless platitudes.

go take a suck pill

I didn't think you would have any kind of comeback.

 

[tererun]

How is this going to backfire?

First off Romney did not even come close to making it on his own. His parents and grandparents made it for him, and even they had to actually run a business.

Again, how does that justify raising taxes on the rich?

I did not say it did. That is a whole different issue, please stop trying to deflect. Obama is very correct in showing Romney, or any rich person in his position, did not make it there on their own. Please try to keep up with the actual argument, if you want to make a new on, or in this case the same old bullshit, make another post.

The only businesses I know who make it on the hard work and sweat of their owners might be self owned and run businesses with no employees, but even they probably have help from friends, things like the SBA, the government, and they rely on their customers.

ROFL! Most successful businesses do not get small business loans or help from the government. Solyndra is the kind of business that gets government assistance. The main talent of the executives of such businesses is schmoozing politicians and bureaucats rather then producing a superior product.

Actually, many small businesses that become big start up with loans. The SBAS offers up insured loans for businesses with good ideas that have trouble getting financing from the government. Also, depending on what your business is you may be able to get grants from the government. Don't fool yourself, large businesses make an effort to get corporate welfare from the government. Any good businessperson knows risking uncle sam's money is a hell of a lot better than risking your own. Even Bain capital has taken government money, and i also operates off the investments of other people. Bain has never run on Mitt and Mitt alone.

Your statements show you have little to no experience in small business ownership. I have so before you start making claims full of complete shit based off your assumptions or what some guy on the news has told you, I actually know what i talk about from experience. Seriously, did you really think an example of one company out of the millions that exists, which you even got wrong, supports anything you say?

If liberal numbskulls like you and Obama want to claim that capitalists aren't entitled to the money the receive, then you unmask yourselves as Marxists who despise capitalism and private property. I doubt that message will go over well with the majority of voters.

Again you are going off into nowhereland with shitty rhetoric based on what some guy at fix noise told you. This is just a distraction based on a point i never even made. Romney did not do shit on his own and you can shout things like marxist and other catch phrases all day long, it certainly does not help your point. Had you not gone down the stupid knee jerk republican reaction you might know i have personally made a lot of money on making my own businesses. So yeah, I am a capitalist, and a much better one than you are.

It is actually a well planned attack. If Mittens tries to claim he cares about his workers they have some soundbites from him to run against pictures of people who's lives he destroyed at Bain. If Romney ignores it they can go along the line that Romney is way out of touch.

They've already tried both approaches and both have fallen flat.

Yes, to your mind they have, i have no doubt. But your mind was already made up, and Obama could be god himself and you would still stick your head in the sand to avoid the truth.

If Romney's ego takes over and he declares he is the sole reason for his success they can slam him with the fact he inherited most of it and destroyed the people underneath him.

Romney has never claimed any such thing.

I did not say he did. perhaps your problem is you do not understand english?

 

[Dr Grump]

I'm not a socialist and I refuse to become one.
Why can't THAT be the argumnet instead of something better heard on a playground?

Well don't become one. There are none in your govt at the moment either. People accusing Obama of being a socialist don't know the meaning of the word...

 

[Inthemiddle]

Democrats are finally admitting they're Socialists/Communists!

Praise Allah!

Yikes.

I think the foundational issue is...

All, hell with it.

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The foundational issue is that Democrats are economically to the left of the Vietnam Communists who have embraced Free Enterprise

The foundational issue is that you are a liar. You know damn well that Democrats aren't calling for socialism. What they are calling for is what they believe would be a more healthy balance within our MIXED economic system. The fact that you can't address them on that front that not only are you completely ignorant and intellectually deplete, but that your own position is as weak as wet spagetti holding a ton of feathers.

 

[Moonglow]

well you know that all rich people paved all the roads they needed to become a rich. It's the poor people that don't contribute enough roads for the rich to build their business on.

 

[Moonglow]

It's a refrain I always use: No one in America gets there on their own.

How does that entitle the federal government or welfare parasites one additional dime of my money?

Apparently you like to spout meaningless platitudes.

go take a suck pill

I am sure he does not give that much in taxes.

 

[Avatar4321]

So he thinks telling people that he is responsible for their greatest achievements is really going to be a good selling point?

 

[Avatar4321]

Yikes.

I think the foundational issue is...

All, hell with it.

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The foundational issue is that Democrats are economically to the left of the Vietnam Communists who have embraced Free Enterprise

The foundational issue is that you are a liar. You know damn well that Democrats aren't calling for socialism. What they are calling for is what they believe would be a more healthy balance within our MIXED economic system. The fact that you can't address them on that front that not only are you completely ignorant and intellectually deplete, but that your own position is as weak as wet spagetti holding a ton of feathers.

Any progressives are doing exactly that. What exactly do you think they are trying to progress to?

 

[Moonglow]

The foundational issue is that Democrats are economically to the left of the Vietnam Communists who have embraced Free Enterprise

The foundational issue is that you are a liar. You know damn well that Democrats aren't calling for socialism. What they are calling for is what they believe would be a more healthy balance within our MIXED economic system. The fact that you can't address them on that front that not only are you completely ignorant and intellectually deplete, but that your own position is as weak as wet spagetti holding a ton of feathers.

Any progressives are doing exactly that. What exactly do you think they are trying to progress to?

fortunately not a theocracy, but don't worry, when you die you can go to hevean where you will be in utopian communstic sytem under God.