You Anti-Colectiv Bargainin People Unleashin Forces Yu Won’t Like!

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    You Anti-Collective Bargaining people with your agenda begun with your legislative initiatives in Wisconsin and Ohio are opening a Pandora’s box with the “anger” you will be unleashing among public workers and their families when the results of your efforts begun to be really felt by these individuals, it is guaranteed you won’t like the results! The one major issue that surprisingly does not seem to be resolved on this whole subject is that the “collective bargaining right” is a natural, fundamental right. They are just like the right to free speech, the right to have a say in who governs you (vote)! This phony debate that the “collective bargaining” right is a privilege not a right is without merit. A privilege is a permission to drive a car or a permission to hunt with a gun, the “collective bargaining” right is not permission like these it is a much more serious permission. A right, like free speech, right to vote, privacy rights, etc. is a permission or a protection that is not only important but integral to living (that is human life). The right of “collective bargaining” is integral to human life, because it is integral to a person’s job (who works under a collective bargaining agreement) and a job is essential to human life it enables a person to buy food, clothing, shelter, medical care, etc.. A collective bargaining right is integral to a person’s job (who has a collective bargaining agreement) because it is integral in determining wages, benefits, working conditions and conditions of termination and due to the nature of the management/worker relationship it is necessary to allow the worker to have such permission to join with his or her coworker to obtain fair terms on these listed aspects of a job – remember unless you have a collective-bargaining agreement essentially management has all the power they can set the wages, benefits, working conditions, terms of termination as “they so chose”. A worker is either a worker under a “contract for a term” or an “at will” employee and most workers that don’t work under a “collective bargaining” agreement are “at will” employees which means they practically have no power there is a huge imbalance of power in favor of management in these relationships and the right of “collective bargaining” gives the worker a fair chance to get fair terms of employment and it is the only reality that exists that can give a worker that fair chance!

    If the right wing of the Republican Party keeps up with their agenda here to take away workers right to “collective bargain” they are going to cause a backlash in America which will result in the American people amending the constitution to expressly provide such a right in the constitution. This right is so important to enough working Americans that it will surely happen and in the process Republican candidates will lose many elections over the matter!

    The individual politicians behind these legislative initiatives taking away “collective bargaining” rights aren’t thinking to clearly. The clever designs of these legislative bills in Wisconsin and Ohio will offer no protection to these politicians, these bills are taking away public workers right to “collectively bargain” that is the bottom line. Governor Scott Walker and Governor John Kasich will be forever linked with these bills if they become law in their respective states and they will be held fully responsible along with leaders in their respective legislature. It may not happen immediately but eight to ten years down the road when the full effects of taking away these workers rights is fully felt I fear some hurt worker will take a gun and shoot one of these responsible parties! This writer does not advocate such violence, this writer is a staunch believer that good Americans work within the system to bring about change, resorting to violence is un-American. Nevertheless, history in America has shown when workers are hurt bad they sometimes don’t think rationally and at times they have resorted to violence, that is why it has been written that these “anti-collective bargaining” people are opening a “Pandora’s box” with their actions here!
     
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    Yes, we know the left plans to cause violence since their targets aren't taking the bait to force a revolution and turn this nation into a socialist state.

    It's been their modus operendi for more than a century.
     
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    Why should public service employees who work for a State have a different level of protection than those who work for the Federal Government?

    Also, what about the states that have Right To Work Laws? No one is revolting in them?
     
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    Hey! JIm. Buddy.. You seen the Flee Baggers? How they doin?
     
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    Looks like JIm is a Flee Bagger too. His little green light went out..:(
     
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    Frankly, I'd like to see the unions and their idiot members relegated to the trash heap with all the other bad rubbish.
     
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    Certainly a lot of violence in WI these last few weeks, wasn't there..?
     
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    No...they just completely fizzled out just a day or so after Micheal Moore came into town calling for the huge worker revolt.
     
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    I keep hearing liberals trying to warn conservatives that there will be consequences at the booth. If this were true liberals wouldnt be saying anything at all. They want conservatives out of office why would they care.
     
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    Not there yet. This was promises of violence yet to come.

    Being loudmouth assholes demanding entitlements is not violence... yet.

    We'll see after the law is implemented. I still remember the RNC convention of 2008.

    Poop bombs? Bombs made with poop. You heard that right. Part of the equipment being assembled by the RNC Welcoming Committee, a radical leftwing protest group.

    Are there radical rightwing protest groups or political action groups that riot, throw poop and make spiked clubs? I can't think of one.
     

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