Yet more shenanigans from the Al Gore AGW crowd

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    One of the big claims by the AGW fraudsters is that tropical diseases (especially malaria) will run rampant. Here is a excerpt from an anti AGW documentary that debunks that particular bit of propaganda.


    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxtWEW2nKRI]YouTube - The Distortion of the Malaria Issue by the UN and Al Gore - from The Great Global Warming Swindle[/ame]


    Yet more evidence that they will lie their asses off to promote their agenda.
     
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    Of course the yapping of an ignoramous on a message board is supposed to carry more weight than what real scientists say.

    Early Warning Signs of Global Warming: Spreading Disease | Union of Concerned Scientists

    Early Warning Signs of Global Warming: Spreading Disease
    Climate change affects the occurrence and spread of disease by impacting the population size and range of hosts and pathogens, the length of the transmission season, and the timing and intensity of outbreaks (McMichael, 1996; McMichael et al., 1996; Epstein et al., 1998; Epstein, 1999). In general, warmer temperatures and greater moisture will favor extensions of the geographical range and season for vector organisms such as insects, rodents, and snails. This in turn leads to an expansion of the zone of potential transmission for many vector-borne diseases, among them malaria, dengue fever, yellow fever, and some forms of viral encephalitis. Extreme weather events such as heavy rainfall or droughts often trigger disease outbreaks, especially in poorer regions where treatment and prevention measures may be inadequate.
     
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    I suggest you watch the video oldie. The professor has been with the Pasteur Institute for quite a while, and is recognized as one of the worlds leading experts on malaria and insect born diseases, he is a member of the WHO expert advisory committee, was chairman of the American Committee of medical entymology of the American Society for Tropical Medicine, and a lead author of a US survey of consequences of climate variability so for you to characterise him as a "yapping ignoramous" merely confirms your continued incompetance and inability to review data that might not conform to your pre-concieved ideas......in other words you have proven yet again that you are indeed a yapping ignoramous.
     
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    No, Walleyed, I was characterizing you as a yapping ignoramous.
     
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    Letters to The Lancet

    Global warming and vector-borne disease"

    Letters to the Editor Copyright 1998 The Lancet June 6, 1998

    LETTER 1:

    Sir--Paul Reiter (March 14, p 839) misses the main point: it is not that vector-borne diseases have never before occurred at high elevations during especially warm years. Rather, it is the resurgence of highland malaria, dengue fever, and their vectors in Latin America, central Africa, and Asia during the 1980s and 1990s, coincident with three other changes--namely, (1) the widespread and accelerating retreat of tropical summit glaciers, (2) the upward displacement of plants, and (3) the main underlying measurement, the upward shift of the freezing level (0°C isotherm) in the mountains (30°N to 30°S latitudes)--150 metres since 1970, equivalent to a 1°C warming.

    Insects, in the fossil record, are excellent indicators of climate change, their distribution shifting rapidly with warming and cooling--particularly in response to changes in night-time and winter temperatures. These temperatures have risen twice as fast as daytime temperatures (1·86°C per 100 years vs 0·88°C per 100 years) since 1950, which is best explained by enhanced evaporation from warmer oceans, leading to the increased cloudiness that blocks outgoing night-time infrared radiation.

    Our understanding of Earth's climate system, and the impact of our rapidly altering of the chemical components of the lower atmosphere, are based on an n of (one earth). Pattern recognition, consistency of data with model projections, and internal consistency among datasets are our primary tools for evaluating trends and risks. It is axiomatic that climate circumscribes the range of vector-borne diseases, whereas weather affects the timing and intensity of outbreaks. Models project that global warming will provide conditions conducive to transmission at higher latitudes and higher elevations, and four independent sets of physical and biological data indicate climatic warming.

    The global emergence, resurgence, and redistribution of infectious disease in the latter part of the twentieth century is--as Reiter rightly argues--multifactorial, involving land-use change, local biogeography, population migration, immunological history, control measures, and--most fundamentally--the level of socioeconomic development. We are all concerned about emerging infectious diseases, but many are also worried about climate change from burning fossil fuels. The true challenge in the coming decades will be to develop healthy economies with clean energy sources.

    Paul R Epstein, Center for Health and the Global Environment, Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA 02115, USA
     
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    The warmer it gets the more insects there will be. Even if its not a totally tropical disease, warmer weather would spread the range and population of malaria carrying mosquitoes. For all his credentials, it sounds like this scientist has sold out.
     
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    Oh yeah, BTW, those who know the issue, discuss it. Those that don't or are trying to distract others from the real facts, mention Gore.
     
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    When you need to cheat, you know you've lost the game.

    Scientists with integrity don't cheat. They depend on the science to talk for them.

    It's very simple.

    http://climaterealists.com/index.php?id=4734
     
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    It's the deniers that cheat. They routinely misrepresent the data as flawed, because that's all they have. This is a purely political exercise on their part as evidenced by their bringing Gore into the conversation, as if his talking about changed anything, except that they hate him for it.
     
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    What are the deniers denying?
    When the data is flawed by improper procedure, that is cheating. Nothing more is needed except proper science.

    Read the piece I posted. You might learn something about simple principles in the scientific community.
     
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