Discussion in 'Environment' started by westwall, May 21, 2010.
Once again for konradv
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Its actually more evidence of the persecution of scientists who have conclusions we don't like.
Spoken like a true cultist toober. For ten years the AGW fraudsters have been stifling real research and preventing the publication of sceptical papers for over a decade. Only a truly dishonest person could see what the Mann's, and Jones', et all have done and think that behavior is OK.
He raised a ton of government money producing data that proved the tailors at the emperors wardrobe were making a mighty fine suit.
Was he being deliberately dishonest? It is an interesting question, as when the numbers he crunched are independently audited, things look very different.
It is the same as a highway contractor scamming 500,000 for a highway no one can use, but the connected want. It is the research grant version of the bridge to no where.
Oh whatever, no they haven't, that's just what you believe because right wing media hacks tell you to believe it. I doubt you could even explain what Mann did or didn't do.
Nice use of cliche but it doesn't actually mean anything.
The Mann graph has been verified many times. Even those that did not like his statistical methods, when they used theirs, they ended up with the same conclusion.
You people are real tinfoil hat material. The National Academy of Sciences has stated that there is scientific proof beyond a reasonable doubt that we are rapidly warming and changing the climate of the Earth. The policy statements of all the scientific societies in the world also state this.
If that AG from Virginia goes ahead with his witchhunt, I hope that Mann successfully sues him for everything that he has ever owned. This is a political tactic for purely political purposes.
Skeptical Real Climate Science
From the North report:
"The basic conclusion of Mann et al. was that the late 20th century warmth in the Northern Hemisphere was unprecedented during at least the last 1,000 years. This conclusion has subsequently been supported by an array of evidence that includes both additional large-scale surface temperature reconstructions and pronounced changes in a variety of local proxy indicators, such as melting on ice caps and the retreat of glaciers around the world, which in many cases appear to be unprecedented during at least the last 2,000 years. Not all individual proxy records indicate that the recent warmth is unprecedented, although a larger fraction of geographically diverse sites experienced exceptional warmth during the late 20th century than during any other extended period from A.D. 900 onward."
"The committee finds it plausible that the northern hemisphere was warmer during the last few decades of the 20th century than during any comparable period over the preceding millennium."
"In practice, [Mann's PCA] method, though not recommended, does not appear to unduly influence reconstructions of hemispheric mean temperature; reconstructions performed without using principal component analysis are qualitatively similar to the original curves presented by Mann et al."
Read the real NAS testimony above.
I don't know where you got that since you didn't link but I'm betting it wasn't published in any scientific journal.
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