Global Climate Change = Epic Fail

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    The fact that global "warming" has now morphed into global "climate change" in and of itself signifies the epic fail of the overall argument. The term global warming carries with it a very serious connotation, something to be truly feared. But climate change? Not so much.

    Good luck getting people to fear climate change. :lol:
     
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    Really?

    http://dels.nas.edu/resources/stati...ports-in-brief/Science_Report_Brief_Final.pdf

    Projections of future climate change anticipate
    an additional warming of 2.0 to 11.5 ºF (1.1 to 6.4 ºC)
    over the 21st century, on top of the 1.4 ºF already
    observed over the past 100 years. Warming is and
    will be greatest over land areas and higher latitudes.
    Projected impacts of future climate change include:
    • Water availability will decrease in
    many areas that are already
    drought-prone and in areas where
    rivers are fed by glaciers or
    snowpack;
    • A higher fraction of rainfall will
    fall in the form of heavy precipitation,
    increasing the risk of flooding
    and, in some regions, the
    spread of water-borne illness;
    • People and ecosystems in coastal
    zones will be exposed to higher
    storm surges, intrusion of salt
    water into freshwater aquifers, and
    other risks as sea levels rise;
    • Coral reefs will experience
    widespread bleaching as a result of
    increasing temperatures, rising sea
    levels, and ocean acidification.
     
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    I get what you're saying but ultimately public policies will come down to the realities involved when the climate actually does change over time and regionally we need to adjust our way of living due to real circumstances.
     
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    Bull puckey! Colder climate generates more rain and flooding and causes far more deaths than warm weather.

    C3: Floods 10X More Likely During Global Cooling Periods Vs. Global Warming Periods, EU Scientists Discover
     
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    Note the differance in the periods of flooding for the two differant locations on the same continent. The paragraph in that link did not specify where these floods took place. Was this for a local area in Europe, or were these floods in various parts of the world. Hardly enough information here for any judgement on this.

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    Of course, paleoflood hydrology generally cannot identify the
    hydroclimatic cause for a given paleoflow event. Nevertheless, the
    time base of centuries or millennia is ideal for evaluating long-term
    trends. Knox (1985) documented a pronounced nonstationarity for
    upper Mississippi Valley floods over the past 9500 years. Early
    Holocene alluvial fills indicate very low probabilities for large
    floods between 6000 and 9500 yr B.P. Increased probabilities for
    large floods are evidenced by boulder gravel in overbank sediments
    deposited in the following age intervals: (1) 6000 to 4500 yr B.P.,
    (2) 3000 to 1800 yr B.P., and (3) 1000 to 500 yr B.P. (Knox, 1985).
    Similarly, Patton & Dibble (1982) presented evidence from the Pecos
    River of western Texas that floods were relatively infrequent during
    an arid interval between approximately 9000 and 3000 yr B.P., but the
    extraordinary floods occurring in this interval were unusually large.
    Between approximately 3000 and 2000 yr B.P. a humid interval resulted
    in more frequent flooding, but flood magnitudes were'moderated. The
    last 2000 years has been most similar to the early Holocene arid
    interval.
     
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    The Mississippi river flood plain is 200 miles across. Until man came along and channeled it the Mississippi would quite simply remove all evidence of past floods so how these guys can make these statements are beyond me.
     
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    The known historical record refutes these claims on all counts. The MWP and the RWP were periods of great prosperity for almost everyone and the temperatures were much higher than currently. You'll have to come up with a better fib than that old fraud.
     
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    I knew this would quickly deteriorate into a cut & paste duel like these always do.

    I'm talking simply about the terms themselves. One sounds like it could be serious, the other far to nebulous to worry about.

    That's just how it is.
     
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    But I've been sending my money to the Church of Al Gore for years... You're just a heretic. I'm gonna tell him not to sell you any carbon credits and that'll show you.
     
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    The path of the Bretz Floods is many times that size, and we can tell from the erratics, rhythmites, and sediments the differant sizes of the many floods from Lake Missoula. Why should it be any differant for the Mississippi river?
     

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