yes, i'm running as a socialist

[Flash]

It appears, though, that the trend is in their favor:

Poll Finds Nearly Half Of Millennials Prefer Socialism To Capitalism

The term no longer scares people.
.

It appears, though, that the trend is in their favor:

Poll Finds Nearly Half Of Millennials Prefer Socialism To Capitalism

The term no longer scares people.
.

For the trend to favor them, they have to vote, and so far they haven’t really shown up at the polls.

yea, but are we seeing the start or the end of something? guess we'll see.

Hard to predict for sure, but generally the older people get, the more conservative they become. So although the millennials May embrace socialism now, it is unlikely the group will be as socialistic as they age.

Many young people nowadays have no concept of "paying the bills". Ripe pickings for batshit crazy Marxist college professors to brainwash.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

‘Yes, I’m Running as a Socialist.’ Why Candidates Are Embracing the Label in 2018

i think this is where we see the trend die when it doesn't pan out for them. but hey - their right to give it a shot.

They will be reminded how unacceptable the Marxist ideology is to Americans.

Then, they will change it back to progressive or liberal, or come up with a new label to further change their stripes.

They are ALL fucking commies.

 

[BluesLegend]

My only reason for optimism in the coming mid-term elections is that Democrats/Leftists are so stupid.

Bank on it, the left wing of the Dem party is stuck on stupid.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

It appears, though, that the trend is in their favor:

Poll Finds Nearly Half Of Millennials Prefer Socialism To Capitalism

The term no longer scares people.
.

It appears, though, that the trend is in their favor:

Poll Finds Nearly Half Of Millennials Prefer Socialism To Capitalism

The term no longer scares people.
.

For the trend to favor them, they have to vote, and so far they haven’t really shown up at the polls.

yea, but are we seeing the start or the end of something? guess we'll see.

Hard to predict for sure, but generally the older people get, the more conservative they become. So although the millennials May embrace socialism now, it is unlikely the group will be as socialistic as they age.

It seems though that the youth are much further left than the youth of my day (70s). So even if they move right they will still be left, which is why we are moving ever leftward


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Couldn’t agree more. JFK would be too conservative to get the Republican nomination today. The country is ever tending left.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

It appears, though, that the trend is in their favor:

Poll Finds Nearly Half Of Millennials Prefer Socialism To Capitalism

The term no longer scares people.
.

It appears, though, that the trend is in their favor:

Poll Finds Nearly Half Of Millennials Prefer Socialism To Capitalism

The term no longer scares people.
.

For the trend to favor them, they have to vote, and so far they haven’t really shown up at the polls.

yea, but are we seeing the start or the end of something? guess we'll see.

Hard to predict for sure, but generally the older people get, the more conservative they become. So although the millennials May embrace socialism now, it is unlikely the group will be as socialistic as they age.

right now i do see it as a fad. but i see it as a bigger sign of their own frustrations in how "adults" are handling things now. if i were a millennial, i'd not want this current form of crap and debt handed down to me.

But socialist are not voting against debt, they’re voting for bigger government.

 

[LeftofLeft]

It appears, though, that the trend is in their favor:

Poll Finds Nearly Half Of Millennials Prefer Socialism To Capitalism

The term no longer scares people.
.

We are closer to socialism than capitalism in many areas, people just do not want to admit it.




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Nothing wrong with limited socialism in certain areas. But, we must be more Capitalist to pay for thos socialist programs.....something Socialists don’t want to admit. Further, the more Socialist we become, the less of a healthy middle class, fewer small businesses, and fertile grown for an even truer 1 percent.

 

[Tehon]

China and Russia roundly rejected redistribution economics as a failed system.

As did Karl Marx.

 

[EverCurious]

I'll ask again:

America has "socialist" elements: Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, government agencies.

.

Truth is we started that shit out of kindness, to share the wealth, it was a combination of charity and good will toward fellow American's that deserved it.

Us capitalists did our part, we paid in faithfully pay check after paycheck knowing we'd get jack shit out of it - knowing that /we/ could have been a shit ton more productive with all the billions we put into these programs.

And the takers shit on us every turn, despise us for making something like this even a possibility - and then they throw this "charity" in our face as a reason we should give more and more and more.

We learned our lesson. Fuck em. Never again will I, and many other capitalists, stick our neck out to "help" our "fellow" American's who hate us simply for being successful. We will fight every law, every regulation, every tax, and every program because we know damn well now that it will come out of /our/ pockets alone. More and more take and take and never put in.

THIS is why socialism /always/ fails - GREED - and here too these programs, these "charities," will fail because the government can't be trusted, the people cannot be trusted, and socialism, in any form, cannot be trusted.

 

[Mac1958]

I'll ask again:

America has "socialist" elements: Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, government agencies.

.

Truth is we started that shit out of kindness, to share the wealth, it was a combination of charity and good will toward fellow American's that deserved it.

Us capitalists did our part, we paid in faithfully pay check after paycheck knowing we'd get jack shit out of it - knowing that /we/ could have been a shit ton more productive with all the billions we put into these programs.

And the takers shit on us every turn, despise us for making something like this even a possibility - and then they throw this "charity" in our face as a reason we should give more and more and more.

We learned our lesson. Fuck em. Never again will I, and many other capitalists, stick our neck out to "help" our "fellow" American's who hate us simply for being successful. We will fight every law, every regulation, every tax, and every program because we know damn well now that it will come out of /our/ pockets alone. More and more take and take and never put in. THIS is why socialism /always/ fails - and here too these programs, these "charities," will fail because the government can't be trusted, the people cannot be trusted, and socialism, in any form, cannot be trusted.

Well, I can understand that. There's just something about Americans (and it may be true of other countries, of course), that we just love to knee-jerk too far in every direction whenever we get the chance.

To me, the question right now is about momentum. Those who demonize capitalism and success definitely have it, and I don't see much slowing that down.

Seems to me the discussion should be about where on the continuum we want to be, not about one end or the other. If we stay in a zero-sum discussion, my guess is that those who demonize capitalism and success will ultimately win.
.

 

[EverCurious]

I'll ask again:

America has "socialist" elements: Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, government agencies.

.

Truth is we started that shit out of kindness, to share the wealth, it was a combination of charity and good will toward fellow American's that deserved it.

Us capitalists did our part, we paid in faithfully pay check after paycheck knowing we'd get jack shit out of it - knowing that /we/ could have been a shit ton more productive with all the billions we put into these programs.

And the takers shit on us every turn, despise us for making something like this even a possibility - and then they throw this "charity" in our face as a reason we should give more and more and more.

We learned our lesson. Fuck em. Never again will I, and many other capitalists, stick our neck out to "help" our "fellow" American's who hate us simply for being successful. We will fight every law, every regulation, every tax, and every program because we know damn well now that it will come out of /our/ pockets alone. More and more take and take and never put in. THIS is why socialism /always/ fails - and here too these programs, these "charities," will fail because the government can't be trusted, the people cannot be trusted, and socialism, in any form, cannot be trusted.

Well, I can understand that. There's just something about Americans (and it may be true of other countries, of course), that we just love to knee-jerk too far in every direction whenever we get the chance.

To me, the question right now is about momentum. Those who demonize capitalism and success definitely have it, and I don't see much slowing that down.

Seems to me the discussion should be about where on the continuum we want to be, not about one end or the other. If we stay in a zero-sum discussion, my guess is that those who demonize capitalism and success will ultimately win.
.

It doesn't matter anymore, the cards are already on the table. Most folks live in the "present" but us capitalists live in the "future" - we saw the writing on the wall long, long ago and that's why we started moving our money out of the US.

 

[Norman]

It appears, though, that the trend is in their favor:

Poll Finds Nearly Half Of Millennials Prefer Socialism To Capitalism

The term no longer scares people.
.

Half of them haven't probably seen life outside of their indoctrination facilities... which of course prefer socialism as that's how they get their loot.

Once they actually participate in a real job or any sort of reality, start paying taxes, realize they were fed a bunch of bullshit... the preference quickly fades.

 

[Mac1958]

I'll ask again:

America has "socialist" elements: Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, government agencies.

.

Truth is we started that shit out of kindness, to share the wealth, it was a combination of charity and good will toward fellow American's that deserved it.

Us capitalists did our part, we paid in faithfully pay check after paycheck knowing we'd get jack shit out of it - knowing that /we/ could have been a shit ton more productive with all the billions we put into these programs.

And the takers shit on us every turn, despise us for making something like this even a possibility - and then they throw this "charity" in our face as a reason we should give more and more and more.

We learned our lesson. Fuck em. Never again will I, and many other capitalists, stick our neck out to "help" our "fellow" American's who hate us simply for being successful. We will fight every law, every regulation, every tax, and every program because we know damn well now that it will come out of /our/ pockets alone. More and more take and take and never put in. THIS is why socialism /always/ fails - and here too these programs, these "charities," will fail because the government can't be trusted, the people cannot be trusted, and socialism, in any form, cannot be trusted.

Well, I can understand that. There's just something about Americans (and it may be true of other countries, of course), that we just love to knee-jerk too far in every direction whenever we get the chance.

To me, the question right now is about momentum. Those who demonize capitalism and success definitely have it, and I don't see much slowing that down.

Seems to me the discussion should be about where on the continuum we want to be, not about one end or the other. If we stay in a zero-sum discussion, my guess is that those who demonize capitalism and success will ultimately win.
.

It doesn't matter anymore, the cards are already on the table. Most folks live in the "present" but us capitalists live in the "future" - we saw the writing on the wall long, long ago and that's why we started moving our money out of the US.

I think you're right. This is most likely over, and that includes our culture.
.

 

[there4eyeM]

'Capitalism' continues to be spoken of as if it were some ideology or religion. It is nothing but an economic concept, a system, one way of doing things.
Religions are different, and in fact all of them insist upon sharing.
'Capitalism by itself is not a savior. It is neutral, neither 'good' nor 'evil'.
It can be integrated into a way of doing things that favors humanity, or, as with anything to excess, can work against us.

 

[Wry Catcher]

It appears, though, that the trend is in their favor:

Poll Finds Nearly Half Of Millennials Prefer Socialism To Capitalism

The term no longer scares people.
.

Q. Why do you think it no longer scares people

A. The answer is simple, as an economic system it appeals to those who reject the callous rhetoric which attacks the Social Contract Theory. Western Democracies take care of their people, the attack on Obamacare and support from the NRA has turned the stomach of many voters.

There is nothing positive in the message of the GOP, or the Libertarian movement either. This every man is an Island and only responsible for his or her self does not resonate anymore. As the population ages, and new voters come aboard to vote, the Greed and callous disregard for we the people is rejected, and the words in the Preamble ring loud and clear:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.​

 

[EverCurious]

I'll ask again:

America has "socialist" elements: Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, government agencies.

.

Truth is we started that shit out of kindness, to share the wealth, it was a combination of charity and good will toward fellow American's that deserved it.

Us capitalists did our part, we paid in faithfully pay check after paycheck knowing we'd get jack shit out of it - knowing that /we/ could have been a shit ton more productive with all the billions we put into these programs.

And the takers shit on us every turn, despise us for making something like this even a possibility - and then they throw this "charity" in our face as a reason we should give more and more and more.

We learned our lesson. Fuck em. Never again will I, and many other capitalists, stick our neck out to "help" our "fellow" American's who hate us simply for being successful. We will fight every law, every regulation, every tax, and every program because we know damn well now that it will come out of /our/ pockets alone. More and more take and take and never put in. THIS is why socialism /always/ fails - and here too these programs, these "charities," will fail because the government can't be trusted, the people cannot be trusted, and socialism, in any form, cannot be trusted.

Well, I can understand that. There's just something about Americans (and it may be true of other countries, of course), that we just love to knee-jerk too far in every direction whenever we get the chance.

To me, the question right now is about momentum. Those who demonize capitalism and success definitely have it, and I don't see much slowing that down.

Seems to me the discussion should be about where on the continuum we want to be, not about one end or the other. If we stay in a zero-sum discussion, my guess is that those who demonize capitalism and success will ultimately win.
.

It doesn't matter anymore, the cards are already on the table. Most folks live in the "present" but us capitalists live in the "future" - we saw the writing on the wall long, long ago and that's why we started moving our money out of the US.

I think you're right. This is most likely over, and that includes our culture.
.

I'm more worried about the nation than "culture." Freedom dies with America...

I've been there, I was ready to leave the country before Trump got elected - I was stunned honestly. While I agree the future is dim, I do still have some hope; the next generation is coming back to their senses. They can see how ridiculous the things the socialists want are. Even a lot of millennial can see how badly socialism is going to turn out and no longer vote left. If we can make it through a bit less than a decade of socialism I think we'll have the weight to pull out of the tailspin. I hope we have enough pull to do it, but it's not going to be easy given how fluid business is in the global market. (This is why I'm not complaining about Trump reigning in free trade a bit - I'm a "national" capitalist rather than a "free trade" capitalist.)

One things for sure, the [smart] businesses and us [smart] wealthy folks will ride the storm so /if/ America comes back to capitalism, we will return.

 

[Mac1958]

I'll ask again:

America has "socialist" elements: Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, government agencies.

.

Truth is we started that shit out of kindness, to share the wealth, it was a combination of charity and good will toward fellow American's that deserved it.

Us capitalists did our part, we paid in faithfully pay check after paycheck knowing we'd get jack shit out of it - knowing that /we/ could have been a shit ton more productive with all the billions we put into these programs.

And the takers shit on us every turn, despise us for making something like this even a possibility - and then they throw this "charity" in our face as a reason we should give more and more and more.

We learned our lesson. Fuck em. Never again will I, and many other capitalists, stick our neck out to "help" our "fellow" American's who hate us simply for being successful. We will fight every law, every regulation, every tax, and every program because we know damn well now that it will come out of /our/ pockets alone. More and more take and take and never put in. THIS is why socialism /always/ fails - and here too these programs, these "charities," will fail because the government can't be trusted, the people cannot be trusted, and socialism, in any form, cannot be trusted.

Well, I can understand that. There's just something about Americans (and it may be true of other countries, of course), that we just love to knee-jerk too far in every direction whenever we get the chance.

To me, the question right now is about momentum. Those who demonize capitalism and success definitely have it, and I don't see much slowing that down.

Seems to me the discussion should be about where on the continuum we want to be, not about one end or the other. If we stay in a zero-sum discussion, my guess is that those who demonize capitalism and success will ultimately win.
.

It doesn't matter anymore, the cards are already on the table. Most folks live in the "present" but us capitalists live in the "future" - we saw the writing on the wall long, long ago and that's why we started moving our money out of the US.

I think you're right. This is most likely over, and that includes our culture.
.

I'm more worried about the nation than "culture." Freedom dies with America...

I've been there, I was ready to leave the country before Trump got elected - I was stunned honestly. While I agree the future is dim, I do still have some hope; the next generation is coming back to their senses. They can see how ridiculous the things the socialists want are. Even a lot of millennial can see how badly socialism is going to turn out and no longer vote left. If we can make it through a bit less than a decade of socialism I think we'll have the weight to pull out of the tailspin. I hope we have enough pull to do it, but it's not going to be easy given how fluid business is in the global market. (This is why I'm not complaining about Trump reigning in free trade a bit - I'm a "national" capitalist rather than a "free trade" capitalist.)

One things for sure, the [smart] businesses and us [smart] wealthy folks will ride the storm so /if/ America comes back to capitalism, we will return.

I look at the culture and the health of the country overall as two absolutely linked things.

As the culture has decayed, as we've continued to lower our standards and enable poor behaviors, the decay has spread to every corner of the society.

I look at our decaying culture, our willingness to lower standards everywhere, as the key to our decline.
.

 

[EverCurious]

Truth is we started that shit out of kindness, to share the wealth, it was a combination of charity and good will toward fellow American's that deserved it.

Us capitalists did our part, we paid in faithfully pay check after paycheck knowing we'd get jack shit out of it - knowing that /we/ could have been a shit ton more productive with all the billions we put into these programs.

And the takers shit on us every turn, despise us for making something like this even a possibility - and then they throw this "charity" in our face as a reason we should give more and more and more.

We learned our lesson. Fuck em. Never again will I, and many other capitalists, stick our neck out to "help" our "fellow" American's who hate us simply for being successful. We will fight every law, every regulation, every tax, and every program because we know damn well now that it will come out of /our/ pockets alone. More and more take and take and never put in. THIS is why socialism /always/ fails - and here too these programs, these "charities," will fail because the government can't be trusted, the people cannot be trusted, and socialism, in any form, cannot be trusted.

Well, I can understand that. There's just something about Americans (and it may be true of other countries, of course), that we just love to knee-jerk too far in every direction whenever we get the chance.

To me, the question right now is about momentum. Those who demonize capitalism and success definitely have it, and I don't see much slowing that down.

Seems to me the discussion should be about where on the continuum we want to be, not about one end or the other. If we stay in a zero-sum discussion, my guess is that those who demonize capitalism and success will ultimately win.
.

It doesn't matter anymore, the cards are already on the table. Most folks live in the "present" but us capitalists live in the "future" - we saw the writing on the wall long, long ago and that's why we started moving our money out of the US.

I think you're right. This is most likely over, and that includes our culture.
.

I'm more worried about the nation than "culture." Freedom dies with America...

I've been there, I was ready to leave the country before Trump got elected - I was stunned honestly. While I agree the future is dim, I do still have some hope; the next generation is coming back to their senses. They can see how ridiculous the things the socialists want are. Even a lot of millennial can see how badly socialism is going to turn out and no longer vote left. If we can make it through a bit less than a decade of socialism I think we'll have the weight to pull out of the tailspin. I hope we have enough pull to do it, but it's not going to be easy given how fluid business is in the global market. (This is why I'm not complaining about Trump reigning in free trade a bit - I'm a "national" capitalist rather than a "free trade" capitalist.)

One things for sure, the [smart] businesses and us [smart] wealthy folks will ride the storm so /if/ America comes back to capitalism, we will return.

I look at the culture and the health of the country overall as two absolutely linked things.

As the culture has decayed, as we've continued to lower our standards and enable poor behaviors, the decay has spread to every corner of the society.

I look at our decaying culture, our willingness to lower standards everywhere, as the key to our decline.
.

Nearly everything you speak of is at least in part due to the invasion of socialism. In the old days, if you were a shitty person, you got shunned, shot, and/or ended up dying via natural selection. Socialism encourages weakness on purpose, because the weak are easy to rob blind and to control. The "culture" of the "stronger" individuals you are talking about still thrives in America, it's just hidden, because the weak have been given the reigns to the media - the individuals just keep their mouth shut because they've got work to do. There's a damn good reason I didn't start talking about my political views in public until /after/ I retired heh

 

[Wry Catcher]

I'll ask again:

America has "socialist" elements: Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, government agencies.

.

Truth is we started that shit out of kindness, to share the wealth, it was a combination of charity and good will toward fellow American's that deserved it.

Us capitalists did our part, we paid in faithfully pay check after paycheck knowing we'd get jack shit out of it - knowing that /we/ could have been a shit ton more productive with all the billions we put into these programs.

And the takers shit on us every turn, despise us for making something like this even a possibility - and then they throw this "charity" in our face as a reason we should give more and more and more.

We learned our lesson. Fuck em. Never again will I, and many other capitalists, stick our neck out to "help" our "fellow" American's who hate us simply for being successful. We will fight every law, every regulation, every tax, and every program because we know damn well now that it will come out of /our/ pockets alone. More and more take and take and never put in. THIS is why socialism /always/ fails - and here too these programs, these "charities," will fail because the government can't be trusted, the people cannot be trusted, and socialism, in any form, cannot be trusted.

Well, I can understand that. There's just something about Americans (and it may be true of other countries, of course), that we just love to knee-jerk too far in every direction whenever we get the chance.

To me, the question right now is about momentum. Those who demonize capitalism and success definitely have it, and I don't see much slowing that down.

Seems to me the discussion should be about where on the continuum we want to be, not about one end or the other. If we stay in a zero-sum discussion, my guess is that those who demonize capitalism and success will ultimately win.
.

It doesn't matter anymore, the cards are already on the table. Most folks live in the "present" but us capitalists live in the "future" - we saw the writing on the wall long, long ago and that's why we started moving our money out of the US.

I think you're right. This is most likely over, and that includes our culture.
.

I'm more worried about the nation than "culture." Freedom dies with America...

I've been there, I was ready to leave the country before Trump got elected - I was stunned honestly. While I agree the future is dim, I do still have some hope; the next generation is coming back to their senses. They can see how ridiculous the things the socialists want are. Even a lot of millennial can see how badly socialism is going to turn out and no longer vote left. If we can make it through a bit less than a decade of socialism I think we'll have the weight to pull out of the tailspin. I hope we have enough pull to do it, but it's not going to be easy given how fluid business is in the global market. (This is why I'm not complaining about Trump reigning in free trade a bit - I'm a "national" capitalist rather than a "free trade" capitalist.)

One things for sure, the [smart] businesses and us [smart] wealthy folks will ride the storm so /if/ America comes back to capitalism, we will return.

Do you really believe Capitalism is under attack, or is that your use of the RED SCARE!

We live in a nation with a mixed economy. There is a private sector and a public sector, and both have existed for the entire time there has been a United States.

What this movement is about, has nothing to do with our form of government, we already have a wannabe despot in the White House! What makes you think that the sort of socialism which exists in China or Russian or N. Korea, in name only, is what this new movement is all about?

Obviously you don't think about it, you want others to believe that socialism = totalitarianism which is a damn lie.

We will remain a Democratic Republic, and the people will respond every two years telling those in power what they approve of, and what they reject.

If the reader fears an authoritarian government they will toss out Ryan and the other Republicans who passed the recent tax fraud, and offered nothing to curtail gun violence in America.

 

[IsaacNewton]

‘Yes, I’m Running as a Socialist.’ Why Candidates Are Embracing the Label in 2018

i think this is where we see the trend die when it doesn't pan out for them. but hey - their right to give it a shot.

Don't be so hard on yourself for being a socialist, your shoes are still made in China.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Either 'socialist' or 'capitalist'? What a totally laughable dichotomy! There is no dividing the two when one understands the meaning of both terms. Of course, that excludes most of the mush that appears as posts here.

…and when one understands that Western nations are an appropriate, warranted blending of both.