Yes, I'm a Conservative, But SOME Rent Control IS Necesary

[Toddsterpatriot]

1. No, I did NOT say I did (give a rat's ass about a market price, and I don't.

What I was paying was the market price (rent). It was about the same all over, with the same typical amenities, and was that way for the whole 32 years I've been in the Tampa Bay area.

If you don't care, why should anyone else? Why mention it?

Screw the market. I don't care what it says,

Obviously, socialist.

NO, there are NOT cheaper markets, at least not within geographical range, without having to pay excessive moving costs.

LOL! Find somewhere cheaper. Get a roommate. Stop whining like such a liberal bitch.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How about if Toddsterpatriot and surada do some posting about the focal point of the thread ? >> Old, people on low, fixed incomes, forced out of their homes, while unable to have anywhere to go ?

Rent control is a monumentally stupid and destructive idea.
I'm sorry that you didn't save enough to support yourself in your old age.
Now quit whining.

 

[danielpalos]

I have been allowing you and Winterborn to slug it out in your entirely OFF TOPIC chat fight, but it's about time to end that, and get on topic, and stop derailing the thread.

In case you've gone so far astray that you don't even know what we're talking about here, it is the CRISIS going on in Florida (and elsewhere) of overpopulation, excess demand leading to severe supply (of housing) shortage, and skyrocketing rents, with no rent control to control them
The focus of the thread is on the people MOST AFFECTED. That is NOT LANDLORDS. It is elderly, fixed income, low-income renters, being forced out of their HOMES, with really nowhere to go.

Equal protection of the laws for unemployment compensation can help stabilize the real estate market as well in the long run.

A simple cost of living adjustment should be considered for those on a fixed income.

 

[danielpalos]

It’s granted by the constitution. But it diesnt say congress has to fund it.

It says Congress should fund alleged wars on crime, drugs, or terror even less.

 

[surada]

How about if Toddsterpatriot and surada do some posting about the focal point of the thread ? >> Old, people on low, fixed incomes, forced out of their homes, while unable to have anywhere to go ?

I have posted to you twice. Why don't you look at a Hud Apartment complex for seniors.. It will cost you about 1/3 of your monthly income.

 

[danielpalos]

That’s not capitalism, it’s cronyism. The ports are mostly privately operated.

Part of the problem; besides, the Postal service can generate more revenue while lowering costs for the private sector.

Supply side economics.

 

[Mr Natural]

I have posted to you twice. Why don't you look at a Hud Apartment complex for seniors.. It will cost you about 1/3 of your monthly income.

Maybe he doesn’t want to live among a bunch of communists living in government housing?

 

[protectionist]

When you started off claiming you are a conservative, your topic became a moot point. You aren't. You want a nanny state.

Feel free to report me.

My being a conservative hardly matters. It is just a side issue. The topic is not moot, it is the topic, and one of the most Important issues in America, right now.

I don't want a nanny state and to say that somebody does, just because they call for some level of rent control to control astronomical, prices in a product that Americans MUST HAVE, is ridiculous. As I have said all along, America is not a purely capitalist country, with unlimited markets running totally wild.

Since the 1930's America has been a combination capitalist/socialist country, with some socialist policy where NECESSARY. Nothing unusual about that.

And to claim that someone is not a conservative based on ONE issue that is of CRISIS proportion, is silly. Let's see all the liberals who I've told that Islam is unconstitutional due to its violation of the Supremacy clause, and all mosques should be closed down, say I'm not a conservative. lol
Let's hear from the ones I've told we need a new Operation Wetback again, where Eisenhower deported massive #s of illegal aliens, to Vera Cruz, and dumped them in the shallow water.
Let's see the ones I've told we need trained armed teachers in the schools, say I'm not a conservative, or the ones I told that mayors of sanctuary cities should be imprisoned, and even executed, in related cases.
And what do they say about my position that the death penalty is a total deterrent, and life imprisonment is a risk ?
And what do they say about my position that queers (misnamed as gays) are just sex perverts, and mentally deranged ? And my question to PRIDE paraders > "What is there to be proud of ?"
And what would Debbie Wasserman Shultz (who says abortion is between a woman & her doctor) say to my contention that abortion is a matter between those 2 AND the unborn child (who is represented by anti-abortion spokesmen) ?
And how about my OP calling on Biden to send thousands of troops back into Afghanistan, and rescue the reported 14,000 stranded Americans ?
And would they who argued over my stance to pay reparations$$$ to millions of white victims of racist Affirmative Action, say I'm not conservative ?

Why don't you go ask them ?

 

[protectionist]

I have posted to you twice. Why don't you look at a Hud Apartment complex for seniors.. It will cost you about 1/3 of your monthly income.

Yeah, like they really have vacancies, right ? Sheesh. PS - don't those places make you sign up and get govt approval first ? (before you can be put on their 3 year waiting list)

 

[protectionist]

Maybe he doesn’t want to live among a bunch of communists living in government housing?

When in situations like exists here in Tampa, right now, one does not get choosy.

 

[surada]

Maybe he doesn’t want to live among a bunch of communists living in government housing?

Some of them arepretty nice.. I have several widowed friends who live in HUD apartments for seniors. Their rents run from $250 including utilities to $500.

 

[surada]

Yeah, like they really have vacancies, right ? Sheesh. PS - don't those places make you sign up and get govt approval first ? (before you can be put on their 3 year waiting list)

I asked.. Most wait 5 to 13 months. There's nothing for the government to approve.You fill out an application with your financials. The ones I've actually seen are 1 bedroom 600 square feet. ...

 

[protectionist]

I asked.. Most wait 5 to 13 months. There's nothing for the government to approve.You fill out an application with your financials. The ones I've actually seen are 1 bedroom 600 square feet. ...

Got a link ?

 

[protectionist]

Rent control is unnecessary with equal protection of the laws for unemployment compensation in our at-will employment States. What landlord would be worse off if any given tenant can obtain unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in our at-will employment States?

You seem to not understand the scope of the housing CRISIS. The level of the rents - $1,000/mo for 1 bedroom. Recently rent were HALF that. I doubt if unemployment would measure up to this + plus many renters are retired and dont get unemployment. Unemployment is Off Topic.

 

[eagle1462010]

Thanks for this very fine information. I worry about about the closing costs though. For many people closing cost of $50 above the monthly payment would be too much. For others, the monthly payment itself would be too much.

And what about age ? Were I live, almost everyone is over 70. Some over 80. Will they live to be 100, to pay off a long term note ?

The VA would just resell it. Team up and find a place with a few there.

 

[danielpalos]

You seem to not understand the scope of the housing CRISIS. The level of the rents - $1,000/mo for 1 bedroom. Recently rent were HALF that. I doubt if unemployment would measure up to this + plus many renters are retired and dont get unemployment. Unemployment is Off Topic.

I agree to disagree. Solving for simple poverty on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States can only help with supply side economics. What landlord would be worse off as a class? How would the homeless be worse off as a class?

 

[protectionist]

I agree to disagree. Solving for simple poverty on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States can only help with supply side economics. What landlord would be worse off as a class? How would the homeless be worse off as a class?

I don't know what you're talking about.

 

[WinterBorn]

I agree to disagree. Solving for simple poverty on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States can only help with supply side economics. What landlord would be worse off as a class? How would the homeless be worse off as a class?

Because the increase in taxes to pay for $2.5 billion in handouts to people unwilling to work to support themselves is unsustainable.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Because the increase in taxes to pay for $2.5 billion in handouts to people unwilling to work to support themselves is unsustainable.

Where did you get $2.5 billion for Dan's bum check idea?

 

[WinterBorn]

Where did you get $2.5 billion for Dan's bum check idea?

I Googled the number of adults in the US who work, and subtracted that from the number of adults in the US. Then multiplied that by $31,200.00 (that is the annual pay for someone who works 40 hours a week at $15 per hour). All of that is per Dan's demands. He wants everyone without a job to be paid the equivalent of $15 per hour.