MJDuncan1982
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Yea I agree. It seems to me that the Constitution does not provide for effective free speech. It provides that you can not be denied free speech.
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MJDuncan1982 said:Yea I agree. It seems to me that the Constitution does not provide for effective free speech. It provides that you can not be denied free speech.
MJDuncan1982 said:I disagree with you that his premise about the constitutionality of abortion is false. The Supreme Court's job is to determine what is, and what isn't, constitutional. They have said, unless there is a provision to exempt when the live of the mother is in danger, any law outlawing abortion is unconstitutional.
You may think otherwise but that is the law of the land as of right now. It may change, it may not but when Kerry made his remarks during the debate, abortion is protected by the Constitution.
As to the part about funding what is deemed a Constitutional right, I'm undecided. Most things protected by the Constitution do not require wealth, i.e. speech, religion, assembly, due process, etc.
I'm not quite sure where I stand on this issue but I do feel that a person's ability to exercise Constitutional rights should never depend upon wealth.
I'd have to lean that Kerry was wrong labeling it a constitutional right. More along the lines of a right that cannot be taken away because of the protection of the Constitution. It is a negative right in my opinion rather than a positive one.
Jimmyeatworld said:I don't have a problem with legal abortion if it is limited to cases of the mothers health, rape, and incest. What I don't like is somebody that ignores the fact that sex can lead to pregnancy and wants to end a life because it doesn't fit into their plans or it isn't convienient for them to have a child. Frankly, they should have considered that before hand. Supporters of abortion keep claiming the government doesn't have the right to say what a woman does with her body, but it's not the woman's body that some of us are concerned with. If a woman wants to mutilate herself, she can go right ahead as far as I'm concerned, it's none of my business. It's what happens to that baby that I'm concerned with.
Jimmyeatworld said:I don't have a problem with legal abortion if it is limited to cases of the mothers health, rape, and incest. What I don't like is somebody that ignores the fact that sex can lead to pregnancy and wants to end a life because it doesn't fit into their plans or it isn't convienient for them to have a child. Frankly, they should have considered that before hand. Supporters of abortion keep claiming the government doesn't have the right to say what a woman does with her body, but it's not the woman's body that some of us are concerned with. If a woman wants to mutilate herself, she can go right ahead as far as I'm concerned, it's none of my business. It's what happens to that baby that I'm concerned with.
MJDuncan1982 said:Wonderful point which many pro-lifers gloss over. It makes no sense to be ant-abortion because of the baby but then allow for it in cases of rape and incest.
Why should the baby be harmed because it's father raped it's mother?
-Cp said:If you're truely concerned about the baby, why is it okay in your mind to kill it if it's there as a result of rape or incest? Let it be born and then adopted..
Bonnie said:The second Amendment guarantees "the right of the people to keep and bear arms. "Thus strict application of the Kerry Doctrine--taxpayers must subsidize poor people in doing "whatever the constitution affords them if they can't afford it otherwise" --would mean the government must buy poor people guns.
Merlin1047 said:Allllllrighty then. All you right wingers can have your guns. If the government is going to subsidize any of MY rights, I want it to be the "pursuit of happiness". And let me tell ya baby, it ain't gonna be cheap. I have a lot of happiness I want to pursue.
dilloduck said:I'm afraid that's what the liberals are referring to when they say they are pro-choice. The women don't want to "burdened " with pregnancy. Girls just wanna have fun.
-Cp said:If you're truely concerned about the baby, why is it okay in your mind to kill it if it's there as a result of rape or incest? Let it be born and then adopted..
I saw this credit blaster in Soldier tech Magazine.-=d=- said:here ya go!
But of course it is.Bonnie said:Looks pricey!!!