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    Its getting more and more strict.. I think thats something everyone can agree on.


    How do you all feel on the issue?
     
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    ...in what aspect? Watching TV, and today's scripts would counter your statement pretty well.
     
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    Just in general.. I should've noted that.


    TV, Radio, Music, etc..


    TV scripts? Im sorry I dont understand. But I can say the FCC just fined Fox 1.2 million for "indecency".
     
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    Indecency was related to images - based on current laws of what's acceptable at certain time slots.

    No - today's press has more license to say whatever they want, than at any point in recorded history.
     
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    Fair enough.. but I think decency is something that should be left for yourself to decide and not the government. now before that gets taken out of context, cussing (using fuck, shit, etc) and straight nudity, of course shouldn't be shown on public airwaves. but pixilated images? see: the news everyday. licking whipcream off your body? sounds pretty prudish to me to get offended over that.


    I'd also like to know where these fines go.

    I'll have to disagree tho on what was fined. It's ludacris.

    "Even with Fox's editing, the episode includes scenes in which partygoers lick whipped cream from strippers' bodies in a sexually suggestive manner," the FCC said. "Another scene features a man on all fours in his underwear as two female strippers spank him. Although the episode electronically obscures any nudity, the sexual nature of the scenes is inescapable."


    wow. thats real indecent. /sarcasm.

    i think the worst part of it is.. only 159 people complained. 159 is not even a half percent of people in our country. its not even a tenth of a percent, so why should we cater to these people because they dont 'like what they see'?

    "Although the nudity was pixilated, even a child would have known that the strippers were topless and that sexual activity was being shown," the FCC said.

    in court, they would call that "heresy". its pure opinion.
     
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    The government enacts laws which are prompted by society...the public elects those who support the majority's views on things like 'decency'. The laws aren't made up arbitrarily.


    I agree.

    Me too. :)

    Would you want your 5 year old to see that? If the show was otherwise, okay, then this scene came on, how would you explain it?

    Hersey is not opinion - it's when somebody says "Hey! I saw Joe kill Mike!" then you tell the cops "A guy told me Joe killed Mike".

    I bet it could be proven, however. Find a child who knows what 'sex' is or involves, and show them images; asking them to point out which behaviours are sexual.
     
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    Now, I could be wrong, but who appointed Colin Powell's son? I don't think the public elected him.



    To be honest and realistic.. my 5 year old wouldn't be watching the show in question. They do put up parental guidance suggestions before every show (and I think its in the TV Guide too) so unless your naive or can't read, Id say that responsibility falls back on the parent.

    I wont dodge your question tho.. how would I explain it? Id have to think about it. But then again, as a parent, I would have thought about all of this stuff before I allowed my child to watch the program in the first place. It really is the parent's responsibility to raise their child, not the government. I think that's a big problem these days (parenting).


    See, I wasn't 100% sure on the term, but I looked it up to be sure and it seemed to be valid.

    "A controversial or unorthodox opinion or doctrine, as in politics, philosophy, or science."

    If Im wrong, which I dont doubt haha, what term would describe that then?

    Im sure you could, but wouldn't that have to be the general consensus? Not every kid can identify such things, only the ones that are allowed to view such things in the first place, which again falls on the parent. Sure, some things can slip by and the kids can see it, but is it really worth all the fuss?

    I think this honestly caters to small/special interest groups that dont agree, and to me, that sounds quite liberal on one hand.. or quite prudish on the other. Like I noted before, 159 people out of the entire U.S. population had a problem with it, so a 1.2 MILLION dollar fine was assessed. Thats ludacris. I dont have the facts, but judging from past cases, a lot of these complaints are in an e-mail fashion. Its not hard to get people to email.. or a special interest group to band together and send mass emails or phone calls.


    Seriously tho.. I can NOT find any kind of information on where these monies go to. Millions of dollars in fines are being handed out and I really want to know where thats going.
     
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    If you can control exactly when a Five year old decides to walk into a room, teach me ;)
     
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    ohhhhh stop :) you know thats reaching hahaha
     
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    I'm quite serious. There have been times when I've been watching what I thought was 'okay' TV, only to have my kid walk in during the most risque portion of the show. It's like they have radar for that sorta thing. :)

    Keep in mind, however, a large portion of the US still feels breasts, even when not displayed in a sexual situation, are inherently 'dirty'...
     

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