World's most elite combat soldiers?

[geauxtohell]

Excuse me, I should have probably created a Special Forces List..

Yep, Ranger school is hell though.. literally.

Ranger School certainly sucks. However, Ranger Regiment is the Army's actual Ranger unit that conducts Ranger Missions (they used to specialize in taking down airfields).

Lots of people go to Ranger School and never go to Ranger Regiment.

True that, Most people do it for the Patch and gain some Bragging Rights, and rightfully so. Most Infantry Officers go through that to make sure their Men know he's been through shit and knows what to do..

It's a de facto requirement for Infantry Officers. If you don't have a tab, you are most likely going to have a rough time when you get to your unit. Many people do it for bragging rights, but in reality, it's just good training. No more. No less.

 

[manifold]

I've heard that some Israeli units are considered among the best, don't really know much about it though.

Is there any truth to that or are they overrated?

 

[geauxtohell]

I've heard that some Israeli units are considered among the best, don't really know much about it though.

Is there any truth to that or are they overrated?

I've never dealt with the Israeli Army, but it wouldn't surprise me. They have to be combat ready.

I was extremely impressed with the Japanese Defense Force. The warrior ethos is still alive and well among the Japenese Soldiers.

 

[Hugidwyn]

Who is the best of the best?

Discuss.

Russian remains a good soldier everywhere and in all conditions. One of the main advantages of Russian is its ability to withstand the tremendous devastation and bloody battles, as well as the opportunity to present an unusually severe conditions.

Russian certainly an excellent soldier and skillful leadership is a dangerous opponent. It would be a serious mistake to underestimate him

In battle, Russian hateful and extremely cruel. These qualities are characteristic for the Russian - the Asian part of the inhabitants of the country, Mongols, Turkmen and Uzbeks, as well as for the Slavs who live west of the Urals.

Suffice it to read, as appreciated Russian soldiers by the Germans. Take the memoirs of any known German military officer. The Germans were determined that the resistance of Soviet soldiers connected with their national character.

 

[Skull Pilot]

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[Hugidwyn]

Honour and glory of the Russian soldiers!

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[editec]

Who is the best of the best?

Discuss.

Depends

Whichever one happens to be holding me a gunpoint at the time, for sure.

They're the BEST pro temp.

 

[froggy]

List of Decorations for Audie Murphy.

Medal of Honor

Distinguished Service Cross

Silver Star (with oak leaf cluster)

Legion of Merit

Bronze Star (with oak leaf cluster and Valor device)

Purple Heart (with two oak leaf clusters)

U.S. Army Outstanding Civilian Service Medal

U.S. Army Good Conduct Medal

Presidential Unit Citation (with First Oak Leaf Cluster)

American Campaign Medal

European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal (with One Silver Star, Four Bronze Service Stars (representing nine campaigns) and one Bronze Arrowhead (representing assault landing at Sicily and Southern France)),

World War II Victory Medal

Army of Occupation Medal (with Germany Clasp)

Armed Forces Reserve Medal

French Fourragère in Colors of the Croix de guerre

French Legion of Honor – Grade of Chevalier

French Croix de guerre (with Silver Star),

French Croix de guerre (with Palm)

Medal of Liberated France

Belgian Croix de guerre (with 1940 Palm)



Additionally, Murphy was awarded:

| the Combat Infantry Badge,

Marksman Badge with Rifle Bar,

Expert Badge with Bayonet Bar






It's not the branch it's the determination of the individual.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

List of Decorations for Audie Murphy.

Medal of Honor

Distinguished Service Cross

Silver Star (with oak leaf cluster)

Legion of Merit

Bronze Star (with oak leaf cluster and Valor device)

Purple Heart (with two oak leaf clusters)

U.S. Army Outstanding Civilian Service Medal

U.S. Army Good Conduct Medal

Presidential Unit Citation (with First Oak Leaf Cluster)

American Campaign Medal

European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal (with One Silver Star, Four Bronze Service Stars (representing nine campaigns) and one Bronze Arrowhead (representing assault landing at Sicily and Southern France)),

World War II Victory Medal

Army of Occupation Medal (with Germany Clasp)

Armed Forces Reserve Medal

French Fourragère in Colors of the Croix de guerre

French Legion of Honor – Grade of Chevalier

French Croix de guerre (with Silver Star),

French Croix de guerre (with Palm)

Medal of Liberated France

Belgian Croix de guerre (with 1940 Palm)



Additionally, Murphy was awarded:

| the Combat Infantry Badge,

Marksman Badge with Rifle Bar,

Expert Badge with Bayonet Bar



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It's not the branch it's the determination of the individual.

Chesty Puller won 5 Navy crosses, mostly because the higher ups hate a good warrior and refused to put him in for the medal of Honor. On Guadalcanal when the Army took over his positions his command post was right behind the line. The Army unit was flabbergasted and immediately moved it 2000 yards off the line.

In Korea when surrounded by 7 Chinese Army Divisions he told his men " we have them right where we want them, we can shoot them in any direction"

As the Marines at Chosin pulled back and fought their way through 9 Chinese Divisions after being surrounded , the US High Command wrote them off. Chesty announced " retreat, hell, we are advancing in another direction"

The Marines "retreated" THROUGH all 9 Chinese Divisions. Destroying at least 3 in the process. They took out all their dead and wounded along with thousands of Army troops. They reached the coast with either all their equipment or having DESTROYED what they could not get out. All along a SINGLE dirt road. rebuilding bridges as they went.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

In Desert Storm the Iraqis were so worried about ONE Marine Division off the coast of Kuwait they tied down 12 Divisions to protect against them.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Having been in both the Army and the Marine Corps I can tell you the difference.

Marines train to fight, they are trained to adopt and over come, EVERY Marine is expected to know his next seniors job and be able to do it. They are taught to take the objective as fast as possible, to utilize available assets and not wait for more.

The Army is taught to fight as well however they are taught to wait for support, to use artillery rather then seize objectives.

In Panama the Army would call in howitzers to level buildings because a sniper fired at them, The Marines simply assaulted the building and cleared out the sniper.

 

[froggy]

I'd tell you of some of my feats but then you'd be in someone's sights.

 

[editec]

List of Decorations for Audie Murphy.

Medal of Honor

Distinguished Service Cross

Silver Star (with oak leaf cluster)

Legion of Merit

Bronze Star (with oak leaf cluster and Valor device)

Purple Heart (with two oak leaf clusters)

U.S. Army Outstanding Civilian Service Medal

U.S. Army Good Conduct Medal

Presidential Unit Citation (with First Oak Leaf Cluster)

American Campaign Medal

European-African-Middle Eastern Campaign Medal (with One Silver Star, Four Bronze Service Stars (representing nine campaigns) and one Bronze Arrowhead (representing assault landing at Sicily and Southern France)),

World War II Victory Medal

Army of Occupation Medal (with Germany Clasp)

Armed Forces Reserve Medal

French Fourragère in Colors of the Croix de guerre

French Legion of Honor – Grade of Chevalier

French Croix de guerre (with Silver Star),

French Croix de guerre (with Palm)

Medal of Liberated France

Belgian Croix de guerre (with 1940 Palm)



Additionally, Murphy was awarded:

| the Combat Infantry Badge,

Marksman Badge with Rifle Bar,

Expert Badge with Bayonet Bar



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It's not the branch it's the determination of the individual.

Yeah, remarkable soldier without reservation, but he sucked as an actor.

 

[rdean]

I thought Republicans didn't like the "elite". They call them "snobs".

 

[Toome]

Old topic, lame discussion. No offense to the OP intended.

I've worked with a variety of foreign militaries during my career. The US military tops them all hands down. You can break it down into so-called elite units and conventional units, but that turns into a pretty retarded discussion. RANGERS excel at infiltrating and attacking deep targets. But they rely on the Air Force to insert them and, depending on the extraction plan, either or a combination of efforts from the Navy, Air Force or Army "REMFs." This is why the so-called "elite unit" discussion is lame: if RANGERS aren't successfully inserted and extracted, they become cannon fodder real damn quick.

What distinguishes the US military from any other is its strong NCO corps. It IS the backbone of the military whether you're talking Army, Marines, Navy or Air Force. Yeah, other militaries also have NCOs, but they don't give them the same authority the US does. The sergeant trains, disciplines, motivates, inspires, clothes, feeds the troops. The sergeant is the one who knows all about a troop's personal problems, goals, ambitions, fears and beliefs. It makes a helluva difference on the battlefield and is the key ingredient to team-building and mission success. No other military in the world empowers its NCOs like the US military does.

Yeah, officers get in the way sometimes. No doubt. I used to was one. I've always had a clear understanding with my NCOs that I strongly believed in "Sergeant's Business" and would never interfere until they came to me. Once they did, they no longer owned the problem. My guidance to them was: "be careful what you ask for, you just might get it." And their counsel to me was: "if it ain't broke, don't fuck with it, sir." We got along just fine.

One other thing, this separate services bullshit is pointless. The US military fights as one team. The Army can't win it alone, neither can the Marines, Navy or Air Force. That went out a very long time ago. We've tasked organized our forces for a pretty long time. In fact, at times I think the Pentagon ought to permanently designate task forces from the services, but there are practical arguments for keeping them separate. Point is that the Army can't do it without close air support, the Marines can't do it without the Navy, the Air Force can't fly without the Army and Marines taking out enemy air defenses, and while the Navy owns the seas, combat is all about land.

One Team, One Fight.

RANGERS LEAD THE WAY!

 

[Douger]

F.A.R.C. , as the brainwashed dolts are soon to discover.

 

[Douger]

Having been in both the Army and the Marine Corps I can tell you the difference.

Marines train to fight, they are trained to adopt and over come, EVERY Marine is expected to know his next seniors job and be able to do it. They are taught to take the objective as fast as possible, to utilize available assets and not wait for more.

The Army is taught to fight as well however they are taught to wait for support, to use artillery rather then seize objectives.

In Panama the Army would call in howitzers to level buildings because a sniper fired at them, The Marines simply assaulted the building and cleared out the sniper.

Interesting. I guess you were one of the brainwashed assholes destroying civilian Panama so your masters at the CIA...namely Bush one, could get rid of their zit faced boy gone bad ?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Having been in both the Army and the Marine Corps I can tell you the difference.

Marines train to fight, they are trained to adopt and over come, EVERY Marine is expected to know his next seniors job and be able to do it. They are taught to take the objective as fast as possible, to utilize available assets and not wait for more.

The Army is taught to fight as well however they are taught to wait for support, to use artillery rather then seize objectives.

In Panama the Army would call in howitzers to level buildings because a sniper fired at them, The Marines simply assaulted the building and cleared out the sniper.

Interesting. I guess you were one of the brainwashed assholes destroying civilian Panama so your masters at the CIA...namely Bush one, could get rid of their zit faced boy gone bad ?

thats a pretty accurate statement to make.Matter of fact,you hit the nail right on the head.

 

[Charles_Main]

Who is the best of the best?

Discuss.

Delta hands down, followed closely by British, Aussie SAS


IMO Prolly some Israeli forces that deserve mention as well.

 

[DiveCon]

F.A.R.C. , as the brainwashed dolts are soon to discover.

totally delusional
that terrorist group wouldnt stand a chance against any US force