CDZ Words to avoid if you don't want govt spying on you

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    The NSA can go fuck themselves...
     
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    No time, they got us...
     
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    a nation that won't secure its own borders has no business spying on its own citizens in the "interests" of "national security".

    If national security mattered, the borders would be closed and enforced and we wouldn't be taking in 3rd world peasants and "refugees" from cultures that are hostile to ours.
     
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    As long as the words "midget" and "porn" aren't on the list I'm in the clear. :thup:
     
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    It's odd to me that you'd conflate whether national security matters with the ethics/morality of offering a helping hand to people who've suffered misfortune.
     
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    Semantic distortion.

    syrian "refugees" have no business in america and the president has no business unilaterally making the decision to import them.
    We can offer them a "helping hand" in their own lands.

    Their "culture" and "religion" are primitive and incompatible with western civilization....but obama knows all that very very well...that's the whole point of shipping them here. Racial revenge politics.
     
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    ??? Nothing you wrote struck me as ambiguous. I don't think I was ambiguous either with what I wrote. So where in our comments is the semantic distortion?

    I noticed that you put "refugee" in quotes, as per the definition of "refugee," by the State Department, I would think lots of Syrians qualify. Moreover, seeing as last year we took in only ~130 refugees from Syria, are you stating that they, or the majority of them, have been show to be national security threats or something other than refugees? Or are your statements pure conjecture on your part and based on nothing other than those 130 people being of Syrian nationality and being Muslim to the extent that they were.

    Your claims of incompatibility with Western civilization are unfounded and smack of exactly the same disdain we heard in years past. (U.S. public seldom has welcomed refugees into country) I don't have a lot of experience with Muslims, but I have some -- classmates at school, friends of my kids, neighbors of friends of mine, and that sort of thing. I have zero indication that their lifestyles and culture are incompatible with American culture. They enjoy the same video games, have the same concerns that I do re: family, enjoy socializing, are happy to enjoy the trappings of good fortune, and so on. I haven't met any who drink alcohol or eat pork, but so what? They don't want a hotdog or ribs at a barbecue. To an individual, each of them is a God fearing human being with a high set of personal standards of conduct and respect for others. Indeed, in terms of their character, integrity, respect for others, and education, the Muslims I know best a great many non-Muslims whom I've encountered but to whom I wouldn't give the time of day because they are proles and boorish curs, despite their being non-Muslim or American citizens.
     
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    as colin powell said, the pottery barn rule comes in to play,

    you break it, you own it.
     
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    yeah..that's all great...more semantic distortions...I'm not going to parse words over what a "refugee" is...it means whatever you pay a lawyer to interpret it says it means...

    Here...once again.

    syrian "refugees" have no business in america and the president has no business unilaterally making the decision to import them.
    We can offer them a "helping hand" in their own lands.

    Their "culture" and "religion" are primitive and incompatible with western civilization....but obama knows all that very very well...that's the whole point of shipping them here. Racial revenge politics


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    Point is..that just like you look for language you can exploit to purposely misinterpret for political gain....another equally clever lawyer can use the language of the law to demand it be strictly enforced.
     
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    Your repeating the post doesn't lend veracity to it.
     

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