Withdrawal or Secession?

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    Internationally, there is nothing more important to Americans than is withdrawing from the United Nations. In order to accomplish that goal McLeod & Hagmann focus on Agenda 21 and Canada’s culpability:

    In truth, the fight to get out of the UN started soon after 1945. Senator Joseph McCarthy (1908 - 1957) saw the United Nations for what it is:

    I firmly believe that American Communists hated Senator McCarthy for his view of the UN more than they hated him for going after Hollywood Communists. For all practical purposes Hollywood writers and actors were blacklisted in order to protect the United Nations. They were all scapegoated in one of the sweetest public relations con jobs the liberal media and UN traitors ever got away with.

    Let’s look the recent environmental fraud time line.

    1991 Soviet Union is dissolved. Displaced Communists flock to the UN’s Environmental Movement.

    1992 Agenda 21 was formulated.

    1997 Congressman Ron Paul introduced HR 1146 for the first time.


    1997 Dr. James P. Lucier, Sr. presents a comprehensive report about the UN and its goals to The Conservative Caucus Foundation. Lucier’s report includes the UN’s environmental agenda:


    2007 Manmade global warming takes the lead in United Nations scams.

    2009 UN’s manmade global warming fraud exposed in Climategate. (University of East Anglia e-mails.)

    One can talk about environmental frauds, UN taxation, non-existent International law, loss of sovereignty, treason, etc. but the question finally comes down to this:

    How can Americans make their government withdraw from the United Nations? I don’t know the answer, but let’s start with this:

    Ron Paul repeatedly reintroduced HR 1146 since 1997, yet the bill never got a floor vote. That means the House of Representatives never had enough members who thought America’s sovereignty was worth voting for irrespective of which party held the majority. The Senate harbors a nest of traitors and would be worse.

    Interestingly, just as the US Constitution does not prohibit secession, there is nothing in the UN Charter that prohibits withdrawal:


    Considering the number of people in the federal government who fund and protect the UN, I have to ask if Americans will be forced to fight for the United Nations should a bunch of countries decide to secede? I always hoped the Muslim world would do just that. In 1965 Indonesia did withdraw for a short time. It wasn’t a full-fledged withdrawal. I do not think the New World Order crowd took it seriously; nevertheless, peaceful withdrawal is on the books.

    Any attempt to prohibit withdrawal would surely lead to a global conflict. It’s something for young Americans to think about because they will have to do the fighting when the draft is reinstated in order to fight a global war.

    NOTE: Just as Union soldiers in America’s Civil War were fighting against their own freedoms, Americans fighting for the United Nations will be fighting against their own country’s independence.

    Finally, the UN’s determination to destroy America is a many faceted topic. I’ve posted hundreds of messages over the years and doubt if I fully covered more than two or three urgent reasons for the US to get out of the UN. Not so with Dr. Lucier’s report. It is so informative I pray one or two conservatives will take the time to read it. Even if one is exceptionally well-informed on the topic, I’m absolutely certain they will find a lot to add to their knowledge.

    Here are the links to pieces I quoted:


     
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    Flanders has flipped out!
     
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    Agenda 21 :lmao:
     
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    We're still members of the UN. Even so, we don't own the UN, and the UN doesn't "own" other nations. It's a useful tool though, for waging peace on earth, getting food and medicine to victims of hunger, pestilence, and disaster, and coordinating international peace efforts in averting genocide and hopefully making the world a better place through negotiating over the bargaining table to yield as many win-wins as possible.

    No, everybody doesn't see things our way. But we just have to do our best as we are able.
     
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    divided states of America ftw
     
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    You're right, Agenda 21 is a problem for Americans who seek or who have earned the American Dream.

    Agenda 21 has hidden targets, namely private ownership of land and properties, according to this: Is the Soros-Sponsored 'Agenda 21' a Hidden Plan for World Government? (Yes, Only It Is Not Hidden).
     

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