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Absolutely....
That's why I'm voting against him...
No. Try to follow along.
A write in vote for Paul is essentially a vote for Obama. You may twist it anyway you like but that will be the end result.
There is some logic to this dblack, but it's a big "if" Gramps.
IF the person in question supported and voted for republicans in the past, and is now writing in or not voting, then that is a vote taken away from republicans which helps democrats. BUT, if that person never supported or voted for republicans, or at least voted for varying parties, then it isn't a vote taken away from republicans because it was never there in the first place.
It all depends on whether or not it was a vote that republicans could count on.
Absolutely....
That's why I'm voting against him...
But you're not. Our system doesn't allow that. In reality, if you vote for Romney, you're voting for Romney, and nothing else. You can imagine that you're voting against Obama, but you could make the same claim about every other candidate you don't vote for. By your own logic, voting for Romney is a vote against Paul, or Johnson, or any other candidate who might otherwise get your vote if you weren't wasting it on Romney,
I'm a Paul supporter, I nominated him here in Illinois - but I'm not going to waste my vote on Mickey Mouse if it comes down to Romney or Obama.
I want that tyrannical pseudo-socialist, pseudo-fascist Obamafuck out of office...
Romney is a twisted fuck, but he's way less twisted than Obama. Obama is doing everything in his power to create an authoritarian fascist USA. I don't think Romney has the balls to pull big government bullshit - Romney would be nothing more than a placeholder, then finally in 4 years we may get another libertarian or Tea Party candidate to back as libertarians...
I suppose my point is that I'm not going to waste my vote. I'm voting AGAINST Obama....
Any smart individual would not waste their vote to get that tyrannical fuck out of office.
Obama is the opposite of everything we Libertarians and Ron Paul supporters stand for.
So is Romney.
This long-time Libertarian, who voted for Ron Paul in the Florida GOP primary will hold his nose and vote for Romney. I have to. As much as I have a problem with a lot of the GOP establishment and Romney, I cannot let Obama have another term. The GOP does a lot of things that we Libertarians can't stomach, but the Democrats and especially the progressives and Obama, are 10 times worse.
Obama is the opposite of everything Ron Paul stands for.
I understand how you feel, but you have to look at the big picture. This happens every time. How much longer will we let politicians set up the situation where the lesser of two evils is the better choice? When will we stop settling for a lesser destruction of our country, and start demanding they fix this shit?
Every time we vote in the lesser of two evils, we send the signal that it's okay to do it again next time too.
We have to send the signal that we demand someone better, that we won't settle for one douche just because he is slightly better than the other douche. Until you send that signal, you're going to be holding your nose every election.
I look at things very simply, the wrong direction is the wrong direction, even if it's a slower pace. I can't vote for Romney or Obama because they're both the wrong direction.
The larger question is the survival of this Republic and getting the current wrecking crew out of power.
Yeah. Bring back Bush! He worked out so well last time.
(Fucking idiots).
Obama is the opposite of everything we Libertarians and Ron Paul supporters stand for.
So is Romney.
Incorrect.
Obama is the opposite of everything we libertarians satand for, Romney supports much of what we stand for, the only problem is getting him to keep his promises when he gets elected. Romney supports smaller government, he supports fiscal responsibility, and he supports the constitution. Trouble is getting him to fulfill all of it. Obama doesn't support any of that in either his words or deeds.
Obama is the opposite of everything we Libertarians and Ron Paul supporters stand for.
So is Romney.
Incorrect.
Obama is the opposite of everything we libertarians satand for, Romney supports much of what we stand for, the only problem is getting him to keep his promises when he gets elected. Romney supports smaller government, he supports fiscal responsibility, and he supports the constitution. Trouble is getting him to fulfill all of it. Obama doesn't support any of that in either his words or deeds.
Obama is the opposite of everything we Libertarians and Ron Paul supporters stand for.
So is Romney.
Romney will at least lessen the tax burden on businesses, which will in turn start to hire again - and will start investing in labor again....
That will create jobs, hence help the economy.
Obviously he will rule like a neo-con but it's better than what Obamafuck is doing.
At least Romney knows how to create jobs...
So is Romney.
Romney will at least lessen the tax burden on businesses, which will in turn start to hire again - and will start investing in labor again....
That will create jobs, hence help the economy.
Obviously he will rule like a neo-con but it's better than what Obamafuck is doing.
At least Romney knows how to create jobs...
I guarantee you that one day after Romney is elected, the economy will soar.
So is Romney.
Incorrect.
Obama is the opposite of everything we libertarians satand for, Romney supports much of what we stand for, the only problem is getting him to keep his promises when he gets elected. Romney supports smaller government, he supports fiscal responsibility, and he supports the constitution. Trouble is getting him to fulfill all of it. Obama doesn't support any of that in either his words or deeds.
Right, you buy the PR, but I don't. As long as we keep selling out libertarian ideals for a pat on the head, we'll continue to lose ground.
Romney will at least lessen the tax burden on businesses, which will in turn start to hire again - and will start investing in labor again....
That will create jobs, hence help the economy.
Obviously he will rule like a neo-con but it's better than what Obamafuck is doing.
At least Romney knows how to create jobs...
I guarantee you that one day after Romney is elected, the economy will soar.
All businesspeople have to know is that Obama is on his way out.
*That* will be true stimulus.
But don't think for a second he would try to foist more damage on his way out in the meantime. He's that vindictive.
dear idiot.
The dems did not court a loony tunes base that they have to lie to to get votes from.
The republican party had to so they good get enough votes to win elections ( as long as they cheated too)
So is Romney.
Romney will at least lessen the tax burden on businesses, which will in turn start to hire again - and will start investing in labor again....
That will create jobs, hence help the economy.
Obviously he will rule like a neo-con but it's better than what Obamafuck is doing.
At least Romney knows how to create jobs...
I guarantee you that one day after Romney is elected, the economy will soar.
Yes, you are specious, dblack. The logic is a vote not for Romney is one less vote that Obama needs to worry about. Yes, you need to quit being a lunkhead and vote for MR.
But the same can be said in reverse. By not voting for Obama, that's one less vote that Romney needs to worry about.
Not when that vote was not going to go for Obama anyway,
Then you are actively for Obama: no difference.
Nonsense. I'm not voting for Obama. You're not so hot with the whole logic thing, eh?
You don't have to vote for Obama, only actively oppose Romney. You are supporting Obama.
hahahahah
looks like they are starting to FEAR each other.
I doubt it'll be all that divisive. In the end, Paul is a Republican and he will deliver his flock for Rand's sake.
The Paulites will support Romney, or they will have no positive influence.
It's the opposite actually. Supporting Romney would betray everything we've worked for.
So, in stead, you will support obama? Perhaps some will, others will stay home, but the vast majority will support Romney.
Go ahead. Be steadfast and stick to your principles. It will get you nothing and may just land you in a place you'd rather not be.
Ron Paul throwing his support behind the GOP nominee and asking his supporters to do the same, is the only way he will have any influence in a Romney administration.
Ron Paul can't "deliver his flock" to Romney. He could play politics and endorse Romney today and it wouldn't make a statistically significant difference in November.
