Will a Biden/Harris win destroy Medicare for our Senior Citizens?

[johnwk]

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With Joe Biden showing signs of dementia and fatigue, and a recent poll showing 59% Think Biden Unlikely to Finish A Four-Year Term in White House, Senior Citizens would do well to consider the threat to their Medicare program should Kamala Harris replace Biden as President.


In regard to this question and Kamal’s strongly held desire to impose her “Medicare for All” plan upon the American People, the following article is very informative and ought to be studied by our Senior Citizens. It should also be studied by those who have parents benefiting from the Medicare program which their parents paid into all their lives.


See: ‘Medicare for All’ Would Be Terrible for Seniors. The article begins:

"In a rare op-ed, President Trump recently suggested that “Medicare for All” proposals gaining popularity among Democrats would “demolish” the Medicare benefits that seniors expect to rely on. This provoked Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer to issue an angry rebuttal scrawled in red pen, in which he denied that Democrats supported single-payer health care and declared suggestions that Democrats had plans to outlaw private health insurance “NOT TRUE.”


Keep in mind that under Kamal’s Medicare for all plan, over 150 million Americans who now have privately paid-for health insurance plans, would have their plans outlawed, forcing them into Kamala’s plan, while 1.5 million DACA and 3.6 million Dreamers in our country would also start receiving Medicare financed healthcare, which would bankrupt the Medicare program which our Senior Citizens paid into all their lives!

Forewarned is forearmed!

JWK

When it comes to healthcare, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants and foreign aliens.

 

[Rye Catcher]

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With Joe Biden showing signs of dementia and fatigue, and a recent poll showing 59% Think Biden Unlikely to Finish A Four-Year Term in White House, Senior Citizens would do well to consider the threat to their Medicare program should Kamala Harris replace Biden as President.


In regard to this question and Kamal’s strongly held desire to impose her “Medicare for All” plan upon the American People, the following article is very informative and ought to be studied by our Senior Citizens. It should also be studied by those who have parents benefiting from the Medicare program which their parents paid into all their lives.


See: ‘Medicare for All’ Would Be Terrible for Seniors. The article begins:

"In a rare op-ed, President Trump recently suggested that “Medicare for All” proposals gaining popularity among Democrats would “demolish” the Medicare benefits that seniors expect to rely on. This provoked Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer to issue an angry rebuttal scrawled in red pen, in which he denied that Democrats supported single-payer health care and declared suggestions that Democrats had plans to outlaw private health insurance “NOT TRUE.”


Keep in mind that under Kamal’s Medicare for all plan, over 150 million Americans who now have privately paid-for health insurance plans, would have their plans outlawed, forcing them into Kamala’s plan, while 1.5 million DACA and 3.6 million Dreamers in our country would also start receiving Medicare financed healthcare, which would bankrupt the Medicare program which our Senior Citizens paid into all their lives!

Forewarned is forearmed!

JWK

When it comes to healthcare, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants and foreign aliens.

Good grief, what a load of crap ^^^.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Uh. No. You know, this is why the Republican party is on the verge of being out of power and why conservatism is slowly but surely being rejected as an ideology. Neither are about new ideas anymore. It's about spreading fear and the cult of personality.

 

[sealybobo]

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With Joe Biden showing signs of dementia and fatigue, and a recent poll showing 59% Think Biden Unlikely to Finish A Four-Year Term in White House, Senior Citizens would do well to consider the threat to their Medicare program should Kamala Harris replace Biden as President.


In regard to this question and Kamal’s strongly held desire to impose her “Medicare for All” plan upon the American People, the following article is very informative and ought to be studied by our Senior Citizens. It should also be studied by those who have parents benefiting from the Medicare program which their parents paid into all their lives.


See: ‘Medicare for All’ Would Be Terrible for Seniors. The article begins:

"In a rare op-ed, President Trump recently suggested that “Medicare for All” proposals gaining popularity among Democrats would “demolish” the Medicare benefits that seniors expect to rely on. This provoked Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer to issue an angry rebuttal scrawled in red pen, in which he denied that Democrats supported single-payer health care and declared suggestions that Democrats had plans to outlaw private health insurance “NOT TRUE.”


Keep in mind that under Kamal’s Medicare for all plan, over 150 million Americans who now have privately paid-for health insurance plans, would have their plans outlawed, forcing them into Kamala’s plan, while 1.5 million DACA and 3.6 million Dreamers in our country would also start receiving Medicare financed healthcare, which would bankrupt the Medicare program which our Senior Citizens paid into all their lives!

Forewarned is forearmed!

JWK

When it comes to healthcare, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants and foreign aliens.

funny shit seeing as how it's Trump and Republicans who want to kill/make cuts to these programs.

 

[Rye Catcher]

Forewarned is forearmed! is good advice.

A vote for Trump is to spend another four years of the same inept incompetence, mendacious, self serving and megalomania which we have experienced for the last 3+ years.

 

[Rye Catcher]

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With Joe Biden showing signs of dementia and fatigue, and a recent poll showing 59% Think Biden Unlikely to Finish A Four-Year Term in White House, Senior Citizens would do well to consider the threat to their Medicare program should Kamala Harris replace Biden as President.


In regard to this question and Kamal’s strongly held desire to impose her “Medicare for All” plan upon the American People, the following article is very informative and ought to be studied by our Senior Citizens. It should also be studied by those who have parents benefiting from the Medicare program which their parents paid into all their lives.


See: ‘Medicare for All’ Would Be Terrible for Seniors. The article begins:

"In a rare op-ed, President Trump recently suggested that “Medicare for All” proposals gaining popularity among Democrats would “demolish” the Medicare benefits that seniors expect to rely on. This provoked Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer to issue an angry rebuttal scrawled in red pen, in which he denied that Democrats supported single-payer health care and declared suggestions that Democrats had plans to outlaw private health insurance “NOT TRUE.”


Keep in mind that under Kamal’s Medicare for all plan, over 150 million Americans who now have privately paid-for health insurance plans, would have their plans outlawed, forcing them into Kamala’s plan, while 1.5 million DACA and 3.6 million Dreamers in our country would also start receiving Medicare financed healthcare, which would bankrupt the Medicare program which our Senior Citizens paid into all their lives!

Forewarned is forearmed!

JWK

When it comes to healthcare, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants and foreign aliens.

funny shit seeing as how it's Trump and Republicans who want to kill/make cuts to these programs.

Yep, Trump and Company, Moscow Mitch and his band of bitches don't give a damn about anyone but themselves.

 

[22lcidw]

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With Joe Biden showing signs of dementia and fatigue, and a recent poll showing 59% Think Biden Unlikely to Finish A Four-Year Term in White House, Senior Citizens would do well to consider the threat to their Medicare program should Kamala Harris replace Biden as President.


In regard to this question and Kamal’s strongly held desire to impose her “Medicare for All” plan upon the American People, the following article is very informative and ought to be studied by our Senior Citizens. It should also be studied by those who have parents benefiting from the Medicare program which their parents paid into all their lives.


See: ‘Medicare for All’ Would Be Terrible for Seniors. The article begins:

"In a rare op-ed, President Trump recently suggested that “Medicare for All” proposals gaining popularity among Democrats would “demolish” the Medicare benefits that seniors expect to rely on. This provoked Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer to issue an angry rebuttal scrawled in red pen, in which he denied that Democrats supported single-payer health care and declared suggestions that Democrats had plans to outlaw private health insurance “NOT TRUE.”


Keep in mind that under Kamal’s Medicare for all plan, over 150 million Americans who now have privately paid-for health insurance plans, would have their plans outlawed, forcing them into Kamala’s plan, while 1.5 million DACA and 3.6 million Dreamers in our country would also start receiving Medicare financed healthcare, which would bankrupt the Medicare program which our Senior Citizens paid into all their lives!

Forewarned is forearmed!

JWK

When it comes to healthcare, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants and foreign aliens.

funny shit seeing as how it's Trump and Republicans who want to kill/make cuts to these programs.

You better pay attention to the Progs who have made comments on this. Including a former President when he was President just a few years ago.

 

[sealybobo]

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With Joe Biden showing signs of dementia and fatigue, and a recent poll showing 59% Think Biden Unlikely to Finish A Four-Year Term in White House, Senior Citizens would do well to consider the threat to their Medicare program should Kamala Harris replace Biden as President.


In regard to this question and Kamal’s strongly held desire to impose her “Medicare for All” plan upon the American People, the following article is very informative and ought to be studied by our Senior Citizens. It should also be studied by those who have parents benefiting from the Medicare program which their parents paid into all their lives.


See: ‘Medicare for All’ Would Be Terrible for Seniors. The article begins:

"In a rare op-ed, President Trump recently suggested that “Medicare for All” proposals gaining popularity among Democrats would “demolish” the Medicare benefits that seniors expect to rely on. This provoked Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer to issue an angry rebuttal scrawled in red pen, in which he denied that Democrats supported single-payer health care and declared suggestions that Democrats had plans to outlaw private health insurance “NOT TRUE.”


Keep in mind that under Kamal’s Medicare for all plan, over 150 million Americans who now have privately paid-for health insurance plans, would have their plans outlawed, forcing them into Kamala’s plan, while 1.5 million DACA and 3.6 million Dreamers in our country would also start receiving Medicare financed healthcare, which would bankrupt the Medicare program which our Senior Citizens paid into all their lives!

Forewarned is forearmed!

JWK

When it comes to healthcare, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants and foreign aliens.

funny shit seeing as how it's Trump and Republicans who want to kill/make cuts to these programs.

You better pay attention to the Progs who have made comments on this. Including a former President when he was President just a few years ago.

All I know is since the 1980's it's only been Republicans telling me to not count on my social security being there.

And it's only been Republican presidents who tried to privatize/kill/end/cut the program.

 

[Care4all]

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With Joe Biden showing signs of dementia and fatigue, and a recent poll showing 59% Think Biden Unlikely to Finish A Four-Year Term in White House, Senior Citizens would do well to consider the threat to their Medicare program should Kamala Harris replace Biden as President.


In regard to this question and Kamal’s strongly held desire to impose her “Medicare for All” plan upon the American People, the following article is very informative and ought to be studied by our Senior Citizens. It should also be studied by those who have parents benefiting from the Medicare program which their parents paid into all their lives.


See: ‘Medicare for All’ Would Be Terrible for Seniors. The article begins:

"In a rare op-ed, President Trump recently suggested that “Medicare for All” proposals gaining popularity among Democrats would “demolish” the Medicare benefits that seniors expect to rely on. This provoked Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer to issue an angry rebuttal scrawled in red pen, in which he denied that Democrats supported single-payer health care and declared suggestions that Democrats had plans to outlaw private health insurance “NOT TRUE.”


Keep in mind that under Kamal’s Medicare for all plan, over 150 million Americans who now have privately paid-for health insurance plans, would have their plans outlawed, forcing them into Kamala’s plan, while 1.5 million DACA and 3.6 million Dreamers in our country would also start receiving Medicare financed healthcare, which would bankrupt the Medicare program which our Senior Citizens paid into all their lives!

Forewarned is forearmed!

JWK

When it comes to healthcare, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants and foreign aliens.

Vs Trump bankrupting it, 10 years ahead of schedule? No thanks!

 

[johnwk]

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With Joe Biden showing signs of dementia and fatigue, and a recent poll showing 59% Think Biden Unlikely to Finish A Four-Year Term in White House, Senior Citizens would do well to consider the threat to their Medicare program should Kamala Harris replace Biden as President.


In regard to this question and Kamal’s strongly held desire to impose her “Medicare for All” plan upon the American People, the following article is very informative and ought to be studied by our Senior Citizens. It should also be studied by those who have parents benefiting from the Medicare program which their parents paid into all their lives.


See: ‘Medicare for All’ Would Be Terrible for Seniors. The article begins:

"In a rare op-ed, President Trump recently suggested that “Medicare for All” proposals gaining popularity among Democrats would “demolish” the Medicare benefits that seniors expect to rely on. This provoked Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer to issue an angry rebuttal scrawled in red pen, in which he denied that Democrats supported single-payer health care and declared suggestions that Democrats had plans to outlaw private health insurance “NOT TRUE.”


Keep in mind that under Kamal’s Medicare for all plan, over 150 million Americans who now have privately paid-for health insurance plans, would have their plans outlawed, forcing them into Kamala’s plan, while 1.5 million DACA and 3.6 million Dreamers in our country would also start receiving Medicare financed healthcare, which would bankrupt the Medicare program which our Senior Citizens paid into all their lives!

Forewarned is forearmed!

JWK

When it comes to healthcare, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants and foreign aliens.

Good grief, what a load of crap ^^^.

And what specifically are you referring to as "crap"? Are you suggesting Kamal's Medicare for All plan would not effectively end private health insurance plans which over 150 million American now have, and bankrupt our Senior's Medicare fund?

Exactly, what is the "crap" you are referring to? Eh?


JWK


Joe Biden and Kamala Harris want elderly American citizens, who paid into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their healthcare revenue with millions of illegal entrants who have invaded America’s borders.

 

[sealybobo]

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With Joe Biden showing signs of dementia and fatigue, and a recent poll showing 59% Think Biden Unlikely to Finish A Four-Year Term in White House, Senior Citizens would do well to consider the threat to their Medicare program should Kamala Harris replace Biden as President.


In regard to this question and Kamal’s strongly held desire to impose her “Medicare for All” plan upon the American People, the following article is very informative and ought to be studied by our Senior Citizens. It should also be studied by those who have parents benefiting from the Medicare program which their parents paid into all their lives.


See: ‘Medicare for All’ Would Be Terrible for Seniors. The article begins:

"In a rare op-ed, President Trump recently suggested that “Medicare for All” proposals gaining popularity among Democrats would “demolish” the Medicare benefits that seniors expect to rely on. This provoked Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer to issue an angry rebuttal scrawled in red pen, in which he denied that Democrats supported single-payer health care and declared suggestions that Democrats had plans to outlaw private health insurance “NOT TRUE.”


Keep in mind that under Kamal’s Medicare for all plan, over 150 million Americans who now have privately paid-for health insurance plans, would have their plans outlawed, forcing them into Kamala’s plan, while 1.5 million DACA and 3.6 million Dreamers in our country would also start receiving Medicare financed healthcare, which would bankrupt the Medicare program which our Senior Citizens paid into all their lives!

Forewarned is forearmed!

JWK

When it comes to healthcare, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants and foreign aliens.

Vs Trump bankrupting it, 10 years ahead of schedule? No thanks!

Republicans don't just say government sucks they prove it.

 

[22lcidw]

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With Joe Biden showing signs of dementia and fatigue, and a recent poll showing 59% Think Biden Unlikely to Finish A Four-Year Term in White House, Senior Citizens would do well to consider the threat to their Medicare program should Kamala Harris replace Biden as President.


In regard to this question and Kamal’s strongly held desire to impose her “Medicare for All” plan upon the American People, the following article is very informative and ought to be studied by our Senior Citizens. It should also be studied by those who have parents benefiting from the Medicare program which their parents paid into all their lives.


See: ‘Medicare for All’ Would Be Terrible for Seniors. The article begins:

"In a rare op-ed, President Trump recently suggested that “Medicare for All” proposals gaining popularity among Democrats would “demolish” the Medicare benefits that seniors expect to rely on. This provoked Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer to issue an angry rebuttal scrawled in red pen, in which he denied that Democrats supported single-payer health care and declared suggestions that Democrats had plans to outlaw private health insurance “NOT TRUE.”


Keep in mind that under Kamal’s Medicare for all plan, over 150 million Americans who now have privately paid-for health insurance plans, would have their plans outlawed, forcing them into Kamala’s plan, while 1.5 million DACA and 3.6 million Dreamers in our country would also start receiving Medicare financed healthcare, which would bankrupt the Medicare program which our Senior Citizens paid into all their lives!

Forewarned is forearmed!

JWK

When it comes to healthcare, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants and foreign aliens.

funny shit seeing as how it's Trump and Republicans who want to kill/make cuts to these programs.

You better pay attention to the Progs who have made comments on this. Including a former President when he was President just a few years ago.

All I know is since the 1980's it's only been Republicans telling me to not count on my social security being there.

And it's only been Republican presidents who tried to privatize/kill/end/cut the program.

Robert Reich, Rahm Emmnauel's brother and Barack Obama have made comments about this. They are the ones I know about. The outlay is incredible. W. Bush did say there will be a problem. Now this was supposed to be fixed in the 1980's. Massive Social Security and Medicare taxes at that time guaranteed solvency until the mid 2070's. Of course OBM guaranteed that at an average of 4% growth annually or more. We will not see that again unless in certain years. We did not see it back then. We have to many social programs and paying to many people slowing it down and we do not want to admit it. I am aging to. I am not going to turn it down.

 

[johnwk]

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With Joe Biden showing signs of dementia and fatigue, and a recent poll showing 59% Think Biden Unlikely to Finish A Four-Year Term in White House, Senior Citizens would do well to consider the threat to their Medicare program should Kamala Harris replace Biden as President.


In regard to this question and Kamal’s strongly held desire to impose her “Medicare for All” plan upon the American People, the following article is very informative and ought to be studied by our Senior Citizens. It should also be studied by those who have parents benefiting from the Medicare program which their parents paid into all their lives.


See: ‘Medicare for All’ Would Be Terrible for Seniors. The article begins:

"In a rare op-ed, President Trump recently suggested that “Medicare for All” proposals gaining popularity among Democrats would “demolish” the Medicare benefits that seniors expect to rely on. This provoked Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer to issue an angry rebuttal scrawled in red pen, in which he denied that Democrats supported single-payer health care and declared suggestions that Democrats had plans to outlaw private health insurance “NOT TRUE.”


Keep in mind that under Kamal’s Medicare for all plan, over 150 million Americans who now have privately paid-for health insurance plans, would have their plans outlawed, forcing them into Kamala’s plan, while 1.5 million DACA and 3.6 million Dreamers in our country would also start receiving Medicare financed healthcare, which would bankrupt the Medicare program which our Senior Citizens paid into all their lives!

Forewarned is forearmed!

JWK

When it comes to healthcare, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants and foreign aliens.

funny shit seeing as how it's Trump and Republicans who want to kill/make cuts to these programs.

Now that is a baseless assertion, especially when it is Kamala Harris who has proposed a Senate Bill, "Medicare for All", which promises to destroy our Senior Citizens Medicare program, and take away the private health insurance plans of over 150 million American citizens.

JWK

The communist/socialist controlled Democrat Party Leadership is known for accusing others of what they themselves are guilty of.

 

[candycorn]

no

 

[johnwk]

no

Medicare for All would destroy private health insurance, create a government monopoly, and bankrupt our Senior Citizens' Medicare program


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Just for the record, under the Senate's Medicare for all plan, which Kamala Harris supports, private healthcare insurance is destroyed by forbidding private insurance companies to cover what is covered under the Medicare for All plan.

See: SEC. 107. PROHIBITION AGAINST DUPLICATING COVERAGE.

(a) IN GENERAL.—Beginning on the effective date described in section 106(a), it shall be unlawful for—

(1) a private health insurer to sell health insurance coverage that duplicates the benefits provided under this Act; or

(2) an employer to provide benefits for an employee, former employee, or the dependents of an employee or former employee that duplicate the benefits provided under this Act.

(b) CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in this Act shall be construed as prohibiting the sale of health insurance coverage for any additional benefits not covered by this Act, including additional benefits that an employer may provide to employees or their dependents, or to former employees or their dependents.


The bottom line is, Medicare for All, as proposed in the Bill, creates a government monopoly which our forefathers emphatically viewed as “odious, contrary to the spirit of a free government and the principles of commerce, and ought not to be suffered”!


JWK


Joe Biden and Kamala D. Harris want elderly American citizens, who paid into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their healthcare revenue with millions of illegal entrants who have invaded America’s borders.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Good grief, what a load of crap ^^^.

What a well thought out measured reply.

 

[Crepitus]

Will a Biden/Harris win destroy Medicare for our Senior Citizens?.

No, you idiot. That's tRump's plan.

 

[candycorn]

no

Medicare for All would destroy private health insurance, create a government monopoly, and bankrupt our Senior Citizens' Medicare program


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Just for the record, under the Senate's Medicare for all plan, which Kamala Harris supports, private healthcare insurance is destroyed by forbidding private insurance companies to cover what is covered under the Medicare for All plan.

See: SEC. 107. PROHIBITION AGAINST DUPLICATING COVERAGE.

(a) IN GENERAL.—Beginning on the effective date described in section 106(a), it shall be unlawful for—

(1) a private health insurer to sell health insurance coverage that duplicates the benefits provided under this Act; or

(2) an employer to provide benefits for an employee, former employee, or the dependents of an employee or former employee that duplicate the benefits provided under this Act.

(b) CONSTRUCTION.—Nothing in this Act shall be construed as prohibiting the sale of health insurance coverage for any additional benefits not covered by this Act, including additional benefits that an employer may provide to employees or their dependents, or to former employees or their dependents.


The bottom line is, Medicare for All, as proposed in the Bill, creates a government monopoly which our forefathers emphatically viewed as “odious, contrary to the spirit of a free government and the principles of commerce, and ought not to be suffered”!


JWK


Joe Biden and Kamala D. Harris want elderly American citizens, who paid into Medicare all their lives, to surrender and share their healthcare revenue with millions of illegal entrants who have invaded America’s borders.

Probably some of the great many reasons it will never pass. So what are you worried about?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

All I know is since the 1980's it's only been Republicans telling me to not count on my social security being there.

And it's only been Republican presidents who tried to privatize/kill/end/cut the program.

Name one, Bozo.
George Bush floated a proposal that SS recipients who voluntarily wanted to put a small amount of their
money into a Chilean model that would invest that money in the market should be allowed to do but
that idea died quickly.

So who killed/ended/ cut the program? Give me one name. Or better yet just admit you are full of it
and go away.

 

[sealybobo]

All I know is since the 1980's it's only been Republicans telling me to not count on my social security being there.

And it's only been Republican presidents who tried to privatize/kill/end/cut the program.

Name one, Bozo.
George Bush floated a proposal that SS recipients who voluntarily wanted to put a small amount of their
money into a Chilean model that would invest that money in the market should be allowed to do but
that idea died quickly.

So who killed/ended/ cut the program? Give me one name. Or better yet just admit you are full of it
and go away.

Trump dummy. Trump is trying to bankrupt the program.

Also, BUSH dummy. Bush tried and he failed. Doesn't mean he didn't try. Baby steps. Republicans are patient and won't give up. Give Trump a second term and for sure you will lose 20% of your ss payouts when you retire, maybe more. Idiot.