Why They Lie

[PoliticalChic]

In a recent thread, "The Left Never Keeps Those Promises," http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/the-left-never-keeps-those-promises.738318/....the focus was an historical perspective.


Today, in a welcome exposition, Dennis Prager makes the very same point about the contemporary enemies of America.


1. "Why does the left lie?

There are two main reasons.

One is that leftists deem their goals more important than telling the truth.

2. For example, every honest economist knows women do not earn 20 percent less money than men for the same work done for the same amount of hours under the same conditions. Yet leftists repeat the lie that women earn 78 cents for every dollar men earn. Why any employers would hire men when they could hire women and get the same amount of work done at the same level of excellence for the same number of hours while saving 20 cents on the dollar is a question only God or the sphinx could answer.

3. ...when New York Times columnists write this nonsense, do they believe it? The answer is they don't ask themselves, "Is it true?" They ask themselves, "Does the claim help promote the left-wing doctrine that women are oppressed?" Whatever serves that end is morally justified.



4. The second reason is leftism is rooted in feelings, not reason or truth. From Karl Marx to Bernie Sanders, left-wing preference for socialism over capitalism is entirely rooted in emotion. Only capitalism creates wealth. Socialism merely spends what capitalism creates. Do leftists not know this? Even if they know it, the emotional pull of socialism prevails.



5. Do leftists believe there are more than two sexes? Of course not. That's why they renamed "sex" "gender" -- and then redefined "gender" to mean whatever one wants it to mean.

So then, on the left, truth is subservient to two higher values: doctrine and emotion.

Do those on the left believe their lies?"
Explaining the Left, Part VI: Do Leftists Believe What They Say?



You know the answer.




6. They know that lying is evil, and wrong.....but they do so anyway.
And here's how they hide same:

Rule #2
To know what the Left is guilty of, just watch what they blame the other side of doing.

Some day you may tell the truth but first you will have to learn to think.

Sooo.....why can't you find any 'lies,' ExLaxMan??????

You just proved
Rule #1

Every argument from Democrats and Liberals is a misrepresentation, a fabrication, or a bald-faced lie.



You're done.

 

[Siete]

no one cares if Trump lies, why would I care if anyone else lies.

 

[Crixus]

In a recent thread, "The Left Never Keeps Those Promises," http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/the-left-never-keeps-those-promises.738318/....the focus was an historical perspective.


Today, in a welcome exposition, Dennis Prager makes the very same point about the contemporary enemies of America.


1. "Why does the left lie?

There are two main reasons.

One is that leftists deem their goals more important than telling the truth.

2. For example, every honest economist knows women do not earn 20 percent less money than men for the same work done for the same amount of hours under the same conditions. Yet leftists repeat the lie that women earn 78 cents for every dollar men earn. Why any employers would hire men when they could hire women and get the same amount of work done at the same level of excellence for the same number of hours while saving 20 cents on the dollar is a question only God or the sphinx could answer.

3. ...when New York Times columnists write this nonsense, do they believe it? The answer is they don't ask themselves, "Is it true?" They ask themselves, "Does the claim help promote the left-wing doctrine that women are oppressed?" Whatever serves that end is morally justified.



4. The second reason is leftism is rooted in feelings, not reason or truth. From Karl Marx to Bernie Sanders, left-wing preference for socialism over capitalism is entirely rooted in emotion. Only capitalism creates wealth. Socialism merely spends what capitalism creates. Do leftists not know this? Even if they know it, the emotional pull of socialism prevails.



5. Do leftists believe there are more than two sexes? Of course not. That's why they renamed "sex" "gender" -- and then redefined "gender" to mean whatever one wants it to mean.

So then, on the left, truth is subservient to two higher values: doctrine and emotion.

Do those on the left believe their lies?"
Explaining the Left, Part VI: Do Leftists Believe What They Say?



You know the answer.




6. They know that lying is evil, and wrong.....but they do so anyway.
And here's how they hide same:

Rule #2
To know what the Left is guilty of, just watch what they blame the other side of doing.

I agree 100%, but I don’t believe it’s the left alone. Point by point one can go down your list and provide a point where the right does the same, and likely even do so for the rabid centrist type to. In my open all polititions have gotten way to fat up there on that hill. From the Whitehouse down they are trash every single one. They are all liars and they all need to be unelected.

" Point by point one can go down your list and provide a point where the right does the same, ..."


Simple challenge: let's see you do it.

When I get to work I will. But for a quick one, how long has abortion been an issue ? They have made pro life promises, it have not kept them. How long has illegal immigration even an issue? Yet here we are with it never fixed after how many majorities? I don’t trust or believe one side anymore then the other.

 

[BlindBoo]

They lie because if they told the truth no one from their party would ever be elected again.

 

[Crixus]

They lie because if they told the truth no one from their party would ever be elected again.

And it’s not cool.

 

[PoliticalChic]

In a recent thread, "The Left Never Keeps Those Promises," http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/the-left-never-keeps-those-promises.738318/....the focus was an historical perspective.


Today, in a welcome exposition, Dennis Prager makes the very same point about the contemporary enemies of America.


1. "Why does the left lie?

There are two main reasons.

One is that leftists deem their goals more important than telling the truth.

2. For example, every honest economist knows women do not earn 20 percent less money than men for the same work done for the same amount of hours under the same conditions. Yet leftists repeat the lie that women earn 78 cents for every dollar men earn. Why any employers would hire men when they could hire women and get the same amount of work done at the same level of excellence for the same number of hours while saving 20 cents on the dollar is a question only God or the sphinx could answer.

3. ...when New York Times columnists write this nonsense, do they believe it? The answer is they don't ask themselves, "Is it true?" They ask themselves, "Does the claim help promote the left-wing doctrine that women are oppressed?" Whatever serves that end is morally justified.



4. The second reason is leftism is rooted in feelings, not reason or truth. From Karl Marx to Bernie Sanders, left-wing preference for socialism over capitalism is entirely rooted in emotion. Only capitalism creates wealth. Socialism merely spends what capitalism creates. Do leftists not know this? Even if they know it, the emotional pull of socialism prevails.



5. Do leftists believe there are more than two sexes? Of course not. That's why they renamed "sex" "gender" -- and then redefined "gender" to mean whatever one wants it to mean.

So then, on the left, truth is subservient to two higher values: doctrine and emotion.

Do those on the left believe their lies?"
Explaining the Left, Part VI: Do Leftists Believe What They Say?



You know the answer.




6. They know that lying is evil, and wrong.....but they do so anyway.
And here's how they hide same:

Rule #2
To know what the Left is guilty of, just watch what they blame the other side of doing.

I agree 100%, but I don’t believe it’s the left alone. Point by point one can go down your list and provide a point where the right does the same, and likely even do so for the rabid centrist type to. In my open all polititions have gotten way to fat up there on that hill. From the Whitehouse down they are trash every single one. They are all liars and they all need to be unelected.

" Point by point one can go down your list and provide a point where the right does the same, ..."


Simple challenge: let's see you do it.

When I get to work I will. But for a quick one, how long has abortion been an issue ? They have made pro life promises, it have not kept them. How long has illegal immigration even an issue? Yet here we are with it never fixed after how many majorities? I don’t trust or believe one side anymore then the other.

Focus like a laser, bro.


Who is 'they'?

Name names, make a point.


Let me tell you up front: I have no respect for 'moral equivalency' dopes who claim the same about both sides.....there is no comparison.

The Far Left hates America, the America that the world loves, and our Founders created.

There is no Far Right.



Now....get to work.

 

[PoliticalChic]

They lie because if they told the truth no one from their party would ever be elected again.

Who are your referencing?

It appears you are speaking of the Left....who only now is revealing who they are: the party of death.

Proud Democrat voters can certainly find great moments to celebrate.....if they are oblivious to the real history of their chosen party.


Said history can be reduced to slavery, segregation laws, eugenics, and abortion and infanticide.


"You see, what do slavery, segregation laws, eugenics, and abortion have in common? They were all top priorities for the Democratic Party throughout history.

• 1828 — Democratic Party is founded by Andrew Jackson — a passionate advocate of slavery and key figure behind the ‘Trail of Tears’ — a state-sanctioned slaughter of around 15,000 Native Americans
• 1866 — Ku Klux Klan is founded by a group of Democratic former confederate soldiers who fought to prevent blacks living in the South from voting
• 1868 — Equal protection granted to slaves in the USA: 94% Republican support and 0% Democratic support.
• 1870— Black suffrage: 100% Republicans voted for, 0% Democrats voted against.
• 1915— First motion-picture movie to be shown in the White House is The Birth of Nation, a Democratic-Party produced propaganda film depicting the KKK as heroes.
• 1939 —“We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members” – Margaret Sanger (Founder of Planned Parenthood)
• 1960s — “I’ll have those ******* voting Democratic for the next 200 years” – Lyndon B. Johnson
• 2014 — 36% of all abortion in the US were performed on black women compared to the national black population of 13.3%
• 2019 — Reproductive Health Act legalises the murdering of a child up to the day of birth

Even a cursory glance at the dark history of the Democratic Party reveals that they have been the party of death long before the 21st century."

Kill More Babies! · Caldron Pool




Bet you can neither find a single error in the above, nor produce a similar synopsis of the Republican Party.


But.....try.

 

[easyt65]

"One is that leftists deem their goals more important than telling the truth."

Whattaya know?! That's another thing, besides fanaticism, that Liberals / Democrats / Snowflakes have in common with Islam / Muslims...

The Quran also allows Muslims to lie in order to further their Muslim goals.



"Taqiyya is an Islamic juridical term whose shifting meaning relates to when a Muslim is allowed, under Sharia law, to lie.'
- Taqiya - Wikipedia

 

[The Original Tree]

They are of their father. The father of lies.
Some call him Satan.

The Left just calls him Daddy

 

[The Original Tree]

"One is that leftists deem their goals more important than telling the truth."

Whattaya know?! That's another thing, besides fanaticism, that Liberals / Democrats / Snowflakes have in common with Islam / Muslims...

The Quran also allows Muslims to lie in order to further their Muslim goals.



"Taqiyya is an Islamic juridical term whose shifting meaning relates to when a Muslim is allowed, under Sharia law, to lie.'
- Taqiya - Wikipedia

They are natural allies because their morality or lack of it, runs in the same plane.

For instance, note how The Left claims to be a Champion for Women, but how they Slut Shame people they disagree with.

Progressive Puritanism is real, and if you don't fit in to their ideology, they will stone you to death.

Everyone that does not agree with them, they revile and try to destroy.
And there is no limits to the amount of evil, wickedness and corrupt methods they are willing to stoop to, to spread their wicked gospel and attack their enemies.

Muslims, like Liberals are allowed to commit all manner of sin in order to advance Islam, or The Leftist Agenda.

 

[dudmuck]

They lie because if they told the truth no one from their party would ever be elected again.

Who are your referencing?

It appears you are speaking of the Left....who only now is revealing who they are: the party of death.

Proud Democrat voters can certainly find great moments to celebrate.....if they are oblivious to the real history of their chosen party.


Said history can be reduced to slavery, segregation laws, eugenics, and abortion and infanticide.


"You see, what do slavery, segregation laws, eugenics, and abortion have in common? They were all top priorities for the Democratic Party throughout history.

• 1828 — Democratic Party is founded by Andrew Jackson — a passionate advocate of slavery and key figure behind the ‘Trail of Tears’ — a state-sanctioned slaughter of around 15,000 Native Americans
• 1866 — Ku Klux Klan is founded by a group of Democratic former confederate soldiers who fought to prevent blacks living in the South from voting
• 1868 — Equal protection granted to slaves in the USA: 94% Republican support and 0% Democratic support.
• 1870— Black suffrage: 100% Republicans voted for, 0% Democrats voted against.
• 1915— First motion-picture movie to be shown in the White House is The Birth of Nation, a Democratic-Party produced propaganda film depicting the KKK as heroes.
• 1939 —“We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members” – Margaret Sanger (Founder of Planned Parenthood)
• 1960s — “I’ll have those ******* voting Democratic for the next 200 years” – Lyndon B. Johnson
• 2014 — 36% of all abortion in the US were performed on black women compared to the national black population of 13.3%
• 2019 — Reproductive Health Act legalises the murdering of a child up to the day of birth

Even a cursory glance at the dark history of the Democratic Party reveals that they have been the party of death long before the 21st century."

Kill More Babies! · Caldron Pool




Bet you can neither find a single error in the above, nor produce a similar synopsis of the Republican Party.


But.....try.

Its more simple than that

 

[BlindBoo]

Who are your referencing?

Partisans.

Thanks for playing your part.

 

[Seawytch]

Politifact

Barack Obama: 150 Mostly False or "Pans on Fire"
Nancy Pelosi: 20 Mostly False or "Pans on Fire"
Hillary Clinton: 89 Mostly False or "Pans on Fire"
Joe Biden: 25 Mostly False or "Pans on Fire"

Donald J Trump: 456 Mostly False or "Pans on Fire"

Who is "they" again?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Who are your referencing?

Partisans.

Thanks for playing your part.

And so we find yet another post from a 'moral equivalency dunce.'


I have no respect for 'moral equivalency' dopes who claim the same about both sides.....there is no comparison.

The Far Left hates America, the America that the world loves, and our Founders created.

There is no Far Right.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Who are your referencing?

Partisans.

Thanks for playing your part.

Oh....and thanks for proving this post of mine.



Proud Democrat voters can certainly find great moments to celebrate.....if they are oblivious to the real history of their chosen party.


Said history can be reduced to slavery, segregation laws, eugenics, and abortion and infanticide.


"You see, what do slavery, segregation laws, eugenics, and abortion have in common? They were all top priorities for the Democratic Party throughout history.

• 1828 — Democratic Party is founded by Andrew Jackson — a passionate advocate of slavery and key figure behind the ‘Trail of Tears’ — a state-sanctioned slaughter of around 15,000 Native Americans
• 1866 — Ku Klux Klan is founded by a group of Democratic former confederate soldiers who fought to prevent blacks living in the South from voting
• 1868 — Equal protection granted to slaves in the USA: 94% Republican support and 0% Democratic support.
• 1870— Black suffrage: 100% Republicans voted for, 0% Democrats voted against.
• 1915— First motion-picture movie to be shown in the White House is The Birth of Nation, a Democratic-Party produced propaganda film depicting the KKK as heroes.
• 1939 —“We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members” – Margaret Sanger (Founder of Planned Parenthood)
• 1960s — “I’ll have those ******* voting Democratic for the next 200 years” – Lyndon B. Johnson
• 2014 — 36% of all abortion in the US were performed on black women compared to the national black population of 13.3%
• 2019 — Reproductive Health Act legalises the murdering of a child up to the day of birth

Even a cursory glance at the dark history of the Democratic Party reveals that they have been the party of death long before the 21st century."

Kill More Babies! · Caldron Pool




Bet you can neither find a single error in the above, nor produce a similar synopsis of the Republican Party.


But.....try.

 

[BlindBoo]

Who are your referencing?

Partisans.

Thanks for playing your part.

And so we find yet another post from a 'moral equivalency dunce.'


I have no respect for 'moral equivalency' dopes who claim the same about both sides.....there is no comparison.

The Far Left hates America, the America that the world loves, and our Founders created.

There is no Far Right.

I must say that is quite a large collection of pigeon holes you have there.

That both parties lie is given, almost as a natural fact of human nature.

However ambiguity does not imply equivalence.

I disrespect pointless insults.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Who are your referencing?

Partisans.

Thanks for playing your part.

And so we find yet another post from a 'moral equivalency dunce.'


I have no respect for 'moral equivalency' dopes who claim the same about both sides.....there is no comparison.

The Far Left hates America, the America that the world loves, and our Founders created.

There is no Far Right.

I must say that is quite a large collection of pigeon holes you have there.

That both parties lie is given, almost as a natural fact of human nature.

However ambiguity does not imply equivalence.

I disrespect pointless insults.

Dunce, just admit I put a cork in your pie-hole.

 

[Dragonlady]

In a recent thread, "The Left Never Keeps Those Promises," http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/the-left-never-keeps-those-promises.738318/....the focus was an historical perspective.


Today, in a welcome exposition, Dennis Prager makes the very same point about the contemporary enemies of America.


1. "Why does the left lie?

There are two main reasons.

One is that leftists deem their goals more important than telling the truth.

2. For example, every honest economist knows women do not earn 20 percent less money than men for the same work done for the same amount of hours under the same conditions. Yet leftists repeat the lie that women earn 78 cents for every dollar men earn. Why any employers would hire men when they could hire women and get the same amount of work done at the same level of excellence for the same number of hours while saving 20 cents on the dollar is a question only God or the sphinx could answer.

3. ...when New York Times columnists write this nonsense, do they believe it? The answer is they don't ask themselves, "Is it true?" They ask themselves, "Does the claim help promote the left-wing doctrine that women are oppressed?" Whatever serves that end is morally justified.



4. The second reason is leftism is rooted in feelings, not reason or truth. From Karl Marx to Bernie Sanders, left-wing preference for socialism over capitalism is entirely rooted in emotion. Only capitalism creates wealth. Socialism merely spends what capitalism creates. Do leftists not know this? Even if they know it, the emotional pull of socialism prevails.



5. Do leftists believe there are more than two sexes? Of course not. That's why they renamed "sex" "gender" -- and then redefined "gender" to mean whatever one wants it to mean.

So then, on the left, truth is subservient to two higher values: doctrine and emotion.

Do those on the left believe their lies?"
Explaining the Left, Part VI: Do Leftists Believe What They Say?



You know the answer.




6. They know that lying is evil, and wrong.....but they do so anyway.
And here's how they hide same:

Rule #2
To know what the Left is guilty of, just watch what they blame the other side of doing.

President Trump has made 6,420 false or misleading claims over 649 ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-clai...
Nov 2, 2018 - Unraveling President Trump's top 5 claims | The Fact Checker ... is keeping a running list of the false or misleading claims Trump says most regularly. ... and gaggles with the White House press corps before and after his trips.

I notice you have neither documented any mistakes in my posts, nor provided the same about the Right.



I can't begin to tell you how grateful I am, mud, for you dropping by to prove the premise of the thread.


No wonder you are known as 'mud.'


You're dismissed.

We don't have to prove your premise is a fraud. You've proven it already by being incapable to support it. You keep demanding we prove you WRONG, when you're incapable of proving that you're right.

Once again, you're lying, distorting and obfuscating in the hopes of gaslighting the posters here into thinking you have a brain. In reading your posts and what passes in your world as "proof", in reality is just a bunch of opinion pieces written by conspiracy theorists, Russian propaganda organs, and long-discredited economists. Many of the authors you link to are those bottom feeders who write hit pieces for pay, without a single fact to back them up.

Today, Trump is trying to start a new nuclear arms race in the Middle East, by transferring American nuclear technology to the Saudis. He's allowing North Korea to amass a nuclear arsenal which is now said to be approaching 100 nukes, without interference. And because of his pulling out of all of the nuclear limitation treaties that the USA has signed, he is now free to sell the technology to any country he chooses.

Nobody gives a fucking rat's ass about you and your petty economic theories, sunshine. Shit is getting real.

 

[edward37]

In a recent thread, "The Left Never Keeps Those Promises," http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/the-left-never-keeps-those-promises.738318/....the focus was an historical perspective.


Today, in a welcome exposition, Dennis Prager makes the very same point about the contemporary enemies of America.


1. "Why does the left lie?

There are two main reasons.

One is that leftists deem their goals more important than telling the truth.

2. For example, every honest economist knows women do not earn 20 percent less money than men for the same work done for the same amount of hours under the same conditions. Yet leftists repeat the lie that women earn 78 cents for every dollar men earn. Why any employers would hire men when they could hire women and get the same amount of work done at the same level of excellence for the same number of hours while saving 20 cents on the dollar is a question only God or the sphinx could answer.

3. ...when New York Times columnists write this nonsense, do they believe it? The answer is they don't ask themselves, "Is it true?" They ask themselves, "Does the claim help promote the left-wing doctrine that women are oppressed?" Whatever serves that end is morally justified.



4. The second reason is leftism is rooted in feelings, not reason or truth. From Karl Marx to Bernie Sanders, left-wing preference for socialism over capitalism is entirely rooted in emotion. Only capitalism creates wealth. Socialism merely spends what capitalism creates. Do leftists not know this? Even if they know it, the emotional pull of socialism prevails.



5. Do leftists believe there are more than two sexes? Of course not. That's why they renamed "sex" "gender" -- and then redefined "gender" to mean whatever one wants it to mean.

So then, on the left, truth is subservient to two higher values: doctrine and emotion.

Do those on the left believe their lies?"
Explaining the Left, Part VI: Do Leftists Believe What They Say?



You know the answer.




6. They know that lying is evil, and wrong.....but they do so anyway.
And here's how they hide same:

Rule #2
To know what the Left is guilty of, just watch what they blame the other side of doing.

President Trump has made 6,420 false or misleading claims over 649 ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../president-trump-has-made-false-or-misleading-clai...
Nov 2, 2018 - Unraveling President Trump's top 5 claims | The Fact Checker ... is keeping a running list of the false or misleading claims Trump says most regularly. ... and gaggles with the White House press corps before and after his trips.

I notice you have neither documented any mistakes in my posts, nor provided the same about the Right.



I can't begin to tell you how grateful I am, mud, for you dropping by to prove the premise of the thread.


No wonder you are known as 'mud.'


You're dismissed.

We don't have to prove your premise is a fraud. You've proven it already by being incapable to support it. You keep demanding we prove you WRONG, when you're incapable of proving that you're right.

Once again, you're lying, distorting and obfuscating in the hopes of gaslighting the posters here into thinking you have a brain. In reading your posts and what passes in your world as "proof", in reality is just a bunch of opinion pieces written by conspiracy theorists, Russian propaganda organs, and long-discredited economists. Many of the authors you link to are those bottom feeders who write hit pieces for pay, without a single fact to back them up.

Today, Trump is trying to start a new nuclear arms race in the Middle East, by transferring American nuclear technology to the Saudis. He's allowing North Korea to amass a nuclear arsenal which is now said to be approaching 100 nukes, without interference. And because of his pulling out of all of the nuclear limitation treaties that the USA has signed, he is now free to sell the technology to any country he chooses.

Nobody gives a fucking rat's ass about you and your petty economic theories, sunshine. Shit is getting real.

Oh man Dragon lady you are so right on

 

[BlindBoo]

Who are your referencing?

Partisans.

Thanks for playing your part.

And so we find yet another post from a 'moral equivalency dunce.'


I have no respect for 'moral equivalency' dopes who claim the same about both sides.....there is no comparison.

The Far Left hates America, the America that the world loves, and our Founders created.

There is no Far Right.

I must say that is quite a large collection of pigeon holes you have there.

That both parties lie is given, almost as a natural fact of human nature.

However ambiguity does not imply equivalence.

I disrespect pointless insults.

Dunce, just admit I put a cork in your pie-hole.