Shrimpbox
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Well fig let’s go down this rabbit hole with your logic. More people are killed in car accidents than by guns in the last fifty yearsMore Americans killed by guns since 1968 than in all U.S. wars, columnist Nicholas Kristof writes
I saw this on some show this week:
1,396,000 people have died in all US wars combined in our entire history, and that includes all the deaths from non-gun related causes like disease.
1,516,000 people have died from gunshots since 1968 in the US. That includes suicides and murders and every other death by gunshot in the US. And that was through 2015.
We can only estimate the number of gun deaths from 1776-1968, which are not added to the total. More people have died by gun violence in the US than soldiers that have died in all the wars we have fought in our history combined.
Death rates from guns, traffic accidents converging
And let’s especially look at this quote
Such statistics are misleading, said John Lott, an economist and author of More Guns, Less Crime. That's because gun-related homicides and accidents have gone down, while suicide deaths by firearm have gone up, he claims.
He said there's no need for legislation: Since the assault rifle ban ended in 2004, he said there has been twice as large a drop in firearm deaths.
But experts from the National Academies of Science's National Research Council have taken issue with his numbers, which also don't gel with the CDC's findings. In 2004, there were 11,624 gun homicides -- up from 10,828 in 1999. When the assault rifle ban ended, the numbers shot up to 12,632 in 2007 before slowly coming back down to 11,098 in 2010. There has been a corresponding decrease in violence in those years, leading researchers to say a correlation between the end of the ban and fewer gun murders is impossible to make. Deaths from accidental discharges dropped from 824 in 1999 to 600 in 2009. Firearm homicides rose from 10,828 in 1999 to 11,493 in 2009, a 6% increase.
11,000 out of a population of over 300 million. You do the math.
And since your distaste for guns seems to be based on the noble cause of saving lives, I am sure you will make this a priority too. After all 250,000 die a year from this preventable exercise, making gun homicide a pimple on the us fatality scale.
Medical Errors Are No. 3 Cause Of U.S Deaths, Researchers Say
Enough with the sophistry.