Why our government has failed

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    Government has failed because that's the nature of governments. That is precisely why freedom is so important. It's why our founders created a government with limited authority.
     
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    That's a rather odd assessment of the essential tool societies require for peace, prosperity and probably more important, civil order. Wingnuts like Avatar assume freedom equals some sort of utopian order in which everyone acts honestly and in the best interests of all. They do this by thinking of themselves - now think about that for a moment and check just a tiny bit of recent corruption news and you realize it is a laughable assumption.

    But on topic, I've always thought if the playing field for all was as it is for working people then people would gain some empathy or at least some sense of reality. Allow the walmart mentality into the professional fields and areas. Make drug companies compete against any drug maker who copies and steals. Same as the stuff made in China copied from craftsman around the world and sold to Americans who want cheap at walmart. Buy Canadian or Mexican or Mom's kitchen remedies and we'll see how fast the corporate elitist lobbyists play another fiddle.

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    You are not one to preach about Government, you would have us living in a socialist system that takes from everyone and the power mongers get it all. We the people would be slaves to the Government.

    Government by nature is inefficient and seeks to gain more power, EVERY single type. Depending on Government to float you is retarded as hell. Everything they do costs more and rises faster each year in costs then private enterprise.
     
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    Our government is beholding to special interests because we have set up our pols to NEED the support of special interest to get elected.

    This problem is one of a myriad of problems manifesting because we have basically set up our government to reward corruption under the guise of legal campaign financing.

    FREEDOM (unless you define freedom as the freedom to bribe our pols) has very little to do with it.
     
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    It nice to know someone thinks for me! Ironically, you are a tool of the very system you accuse me of!

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    People like Kirk are allowed to vote.
     
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    So you are not a socialist?
     
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    Hmmm...are you a socialist, RetiredGovernmentWorkerPerson?

    Let's see you worked for the government, which paid you with money they got bytaxing people working in the private sector, and now you are apparently recieving retirement benefits from the government which is still paying you by taxing people who work in the private sector, too.

    Seems to me that government system (which you mistakenly apparently think is socialist) has served you fairly well.
     
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    well that article makes me angry. shows that special interests rule washington and that apparently our congressmen vote for things they dont understand and can be manipulated fairly easily

    also interesting
     

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