Why Obama Wants To Hide His Birth Certificate

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    Why Obama Wants To Hide His Birth Certificate



    Posted: June 16, 2009
    1:00 am Eastern

    © 2009

    Since I began my quixotic campaign to uncover Barack Obama's birth certificate, many have asked me about the president's possible motives for hiding it with such tenacity and diligence.

    I think there are many plausible motives:

    * Perhaps something in that birth certificate, if it indeed exists, would contradict assertions Obama has made about his life's story. These might even involve his true parental heritage. Without a real birth certificate, no one really knows who his parents were. So it is ridiculous even to speculate about whether citizenship could be conferred upon him by his mother, when we don't know for sure who his mother is.

    * Perhaps it reveals a foreign birth, as Hawaii allowed for in 1961 while still issuing the "certification of live birth" we have seen posted on his website.

    * Or perhaps it will show just what Obama has claimed all along – a birth in Hawaii to two officially non-citizen parents, for the purpose of establishing "natural born citizenship" under the Constitution.

    What do I mean by that last possibility?

    Well, as you know, in 2008, the Senate of the United States held hearings to determine if one of the presidential candidates fulfilled the requirement of being a "natural born citizen." It wasn't Barack Obama. It was John McCain, who was born on a U.S. military base overseas to two U.S. citizens.

    On April 10 of last year, two senators, both Democrats, Patrick Leahy of Vermont and Claire McCaskill of Missouri, introduced a resolution into upper house expressing a sense of the Senate that McCain was indeed a "natural born citizen."

    It's interesting what Leahy had to say on the subject: "Because he was born to American citizens (emphasis added), there is no doubt in my mind that Senator McCain is a natural born citizen. I expect that this will be a unanimous resolution of the U.S. Senate."

    And, indeed it was. It was also, interestingly, the only such hearing held by the Congress on the subject of "natural born citizenship" and its application to the 2008 presidential race. Why was that interesting? Because everyone involved in this process knew – or should have known – that the life story told by Barack Obama would raise far more doubts about his eligibility than McCain's.

    Notice Leahy did not say one parent citizen would qualify a child for "natural born citizenship." He indicted it would take two to tango.

    He did so again at a Judiciary Committee hearing April 3, when he asked then-Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, a former federal judge, if he had any doubts about McCain's eligibility to serve as president.

    "My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen," Chertoff responded – again underlining the fact that both parents would need to be citizens.

    And what did Leahy say to that? "That is mine, too."

    By the way, Obama voted for this resolution, so he obviously agrees with the definition of what constitutes a "natural born citizen" – the offspring of two U.S. citizens.

    Now, I don't know who Barack Obama's parents are, because I have never seen his birth certificate. All I've seen is a facsimile of a "certification of live birth" on the Internet. That document, even if genuine, proves nothing about Obama's birth in Hawaii or who his parents were. Hawaii had a very slipshod practice in 1961 of issuing these documents to babies born outside the country and listing parents who may not have been the parents at all.

    But I do know who Barack Obama claims his parents were. According to him, neither one of them was an American citizen able to confer natural born citizenship on a child. One, Barack Obama Sr., was a foreign national from Kenya, and the other, Stanley Ann Dunham, was too young to have qualified under the law for bestowing that privilege on her son, even if the father had been a citizen and even in the unlikely event Obama was actually born in Hawaii!

    So, if we are to take Obama at his word, he is not a natural born citizen and not eligible to serve as president.

    If he is to be judged by the same standard as his opponent in the race, there is no way he qualifies. That's what Leahy said. That's what Chertoff said. That's what the law says.

    A logical question naturally follows: Why didn't the Congress of the United States hold hearings on Obama's eligibility when they did so on McCain's eligibility?

    I'm still trying to figure that one out. Maybe the answer is this simple: Because there's no way Obama would have qualified.

    Another logical question follows: Why is this man still serving in the White House and turning the country upside down when he is not even constitutionally eligible?

    That's the heart and soul of the campaign I've been running.


    Story continues here....
     
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    Way to beat a dead horse. 400,000th post about Obama's birth certificate. :rolleyes:
     
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    Way to respond with nothin'... you're just another case of obamabot apathy run amok.
     
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    Shocker! Most Americans know of Obama eligibility questions


    Despite near media blackout on coverage, 49.3% 'troubled,' think he should release birth certificate.


    Posted: June 16, 2009
    9:16 pm Eastern

    © 2009 WorldNetDaily

    Editor's note: This is the second of a series of monthly "Freedom Index" polls conducted exclusively for WND by the public opinion research and media consulting company Wenzel Strategies.

    WASHINGTON – It may be the issue few in the media dare address, but a new scientific public opinion survey of a cross-section of Americans shows they are not only aware of questions about Barack Obama's constitutional eligibility for office, but almost half are either "troubled" by the questions or believe he should release all relevant documents including his long-form birth certificate.

    Asked if they are aware of the questions raised about Obama's constitutional eligibility for office, 51.3 percent answered affirmatively, while only 18.7 percent said no. Another 30 percent said they were unsure.

    "Our polling shows that the questions surrounding Barack Obama's eligibility to serve as president clearly strike a nerve across America, probably because it is a problem that everybody understands," said pollster Fritz Wenzel. "Every American citizen has a birth certificate, and once in a while we all have to produce them to get a drivers license or gain entrance to school. Everyone understands the simple rules – if you don't produce it, you don't get in. And while Obama did get in to the White House, nearly half the country's adults – 49 percent – are troubled by this issue and still want him to produce his official long-form birth certificate."

    Among Republicans, 58.2 percent said they were aware, while 49 percent of Democrats acknowledged knowing about the questions. The higher the income of those questioned, the more likely they were to answer yes.

    "There's not much variance across demographic groups on the question, with the exception of race, where whites were far more likely than blacks to be troubled by Obama's refusal to produce the original birth certificate," said Wenzel. "It is interesting to note that Obama's own age cohort – those in their 40s and 50s – were more likely than any other age groups to want the new president to prove he is eligible for the job."

    When asked what their view of the questions was, 41.5 percent of respondents answered that Obama should release all relevant documents, including the long-form birth certificate. Another 7.8 percent said they were "troubled" by the questions.

    Others (12.3 percent) said they were "not concerned," while 9.2 percent said the questions were not valid and 14.3 percent said Obama had met the requirements as a "natural born citizen." Another 8.5 percent said Obama had answered the questions to their satisfaction, while 6.3 percent said the requirements of the Constitution were simply outdated.

    The WND/Wenzel survey was conducted June 6–10 using an automated telephone technology calling a random sampling of listed telephone numbers nationwide. The survey included 22 questions and carries a 95 percent confidence interval. It included 790 adult respondents. It carries a margin of error of +/– 3.5 percentage points.

    Data from this survey also showed that a substantial majority – 56 percent – also wants Obama to release his educational records, which would yield more clues to his early life and citizenship. Among men, 62 percent said those school records should be released.

    "These are questions that are not on the front pages right now, but they are far from going away – and people clearly want answers," said Wenzel. "As long as they go unanswered, they act like a low-grade fever that hampers everything Obama is attempting to do in office. And they could flare up at any time."

    Shocker! Most Americans know of Obama eligibility questions
     
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    If Obama was so concerned about giving the people what they want he could start be releasing his birth certificate but we all know that won't happen.
     
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    I am writing a paper on Sun Yat Sen right now, while I was doing my research I read that the state of Hawaii certified his birth there and with it being a terroritory he could get an american passport and the article made him a US citizen. I am not sure if this completly true because I am not sure it would have made him a US citizen due to the laws at the time. He of course was not born in Hawaii, I just thought it was funny because of the whole Obama thing.
     
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    The issue just isn't going away. Sooner or later he'll be forced to produce it. Probably when the country is in dire straights from what he's been doing and people want him gone, they'll turn to the birth certificate issue because whether people will admit it now or not, they know chances are real good he isn't eligible to be President, and they can use that to get rid of him.

    Hawaii hasn't certified his birth there, and we don't know what is on obama's passport because that's another one of the things he's keeping hidden. In fact, three detectives looked into barry's passport a little over a year ago. Two were indicted and one was found dead with a bullet in his head behind the steering wheel of his car. His death is still unsolved. Someone wanted obama to be President. Someone with a lot of power. Someone with enough power to influence congress and make people disappear. Who would that be?
     
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    what is it...when people having nothing to say...they have to have large red font to say it in?
     
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    If they are a citizen AT BIRTH then they are a Natural Born Citizen.

    His mother was 19 when she had him....even if overseas visiting kenya on vacation, she was not a resident of Kenya nor did she apply for kenyan residency, as said, she was on vacation...whatever child she had, if on vacation overseas, would be a usa citizen. Her husband was a usa National, and also residing in the usa, when obama was born, even if he was visiting Kenya on vacation.

    The Law does NOT say PARENTS, they used this term for mccain because mccain was born to 2 usa parents, NOT because it was the law of the land Pale.

    the LAW says born to a us citizen parent(s) abroad....the parenthesis MEANS either/or....

    Regardless, obama was born in Hawaii according to his Certification of Birth that was Notarized as being a copy of his original birth certificate information. It lists his parents names Pale? And also his place of birth, honolulu....are you saying this NOTARIZED by the State of Hawaii certification of birth was FORGED and the state governor of Hawaii and the State Director of Health Registrar both are lying when they said that his certification of birth is legal and accurate? that's a real stretch, don't cha think?

    Do you think in 1961 that obama's mother could deliver him in the evening in Kenya on the 4th of august and make it back to the usa, go to the appropriate gvt offices, fill out the appropriate gvt forms, get the appropriate government approval to register his birth in honolulu just 4 days after his birth with the Health Registrar in Hawaii? I don't....it is IMPOSSIBLE to do...but guess what the Hawaii Department of Health Registrar has august 8th as the date for all of his legal paperwork on his birth in honolulu is registered....with them....this date is on his Certification of Birth.

    Obama, if he were born in another country would NEVER be issued a Certification of Birth in Hawaii anyway....he would be showing us A Consular Report of Birth FS-240...which still would make him a natural born citizen, but it would be a different form all together, than the original birth certification or certificate according to the article below? If I am understanding this correctly?

     
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    world net daily.

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