Why Is The Latino Poverty Rate So High?

[longknife]

Rachel Sheffield poses this interesting question @ Why Is The Latino Poverty Rate So High?

It has been reported recently that the poverty rate among Latinos has reached 28 percent.
The number, based on a new poverty measure by the Obama Administration, should be interpreted with caution, as explained here and here. However, the overall point that more American Latino families, and Americans in general, are struggling to achieve self-sufficiency is troubling.

I personally know where households exist on five or six members all working at minimum wage just to get by.

 

[The Infidel]

Boosh????

 

[Freemason9]

All waves of immigration are marked by poverty among the new population groups. It happened with the Polish, the Italians, the Irish, the Germans, the Chinese . . . you name it. This is not a mystery.

 

[Truthmatters]

the same reason other Americans are having a shitty time.

Bush and the republicans crashed the world economy.

 

[Koios]

All waves of immigration are marked by poverty among the new population groups. It happened with the Polish, the Italians, the Irish, the Germans, the Chinese . . . you name it. This is not a mystery.

Agreed. Even African Americans benefitted from the New Deal / Fair Deal policies that lifted the poor out of poverty and into the newly-minted American Middle Class, which was the envy of the world.

So now that Mexican-Americans, Haitians, Persians, East Africans and so on are in poverty, while more and more of our sons and duaghters of the Polish, the Italians, the Irish, the Germans, and so on, are falling into poverty, what should be done for them that worked so well for our antecedents?

 

[Freemason9]

All waves of immigration are marked by poverty among the new population groups. It happened with the Polish, the Italians, the Irish, the Germans, the Chinese . . . you name it. This is not a mystery.

Agreed. Even African Americans benefitted from the New Deal / Fair Deal policies that lifted the poor out of poverty and into the newly-minted American Middle Class, which was the envy of the world.

So now that Mexican-Americans, Haitians, Persians, East Africans and so on are in poverty, while more and more of our sons and duaghters of the Polish, the Italians, the Irish, the Germans, and so on, are falling into poverty, what should be done for them that worked so well for our antecedents?

Wages should be increased, and the wealth concentrations should be reduced. Like in the 50's. The only way to rise above poverty is to have incomes increase.

 

[High_Gravity]

Because they come here dirt poor, most of them at least?

 

[High_Gravity]

Persians in poverty? hold on there sir, I met alot of Persians when I was in California and those guys always carried a fat bankroll.

 

[AmyNation]

All waves of immigration are marked by poverty among the new population groups. It happened with the Polish, the Italians, the Irish, the Germans, the Chinese . . . you name it. This is not a mystery.

Agreed. Even African Americans benefitted from the New Deal / Fair Deal policies that lifted the poor out of poverty and into the newly-minted American Middle Class, which was the envy of the world.

So now that Mexican-Americans, Haitians, Persians, East Africans and so on are in poverty, while more and more of our sons and duaghters of the Polish, the Italians, the Irish, the Germans, and so on, are falling into poverty, what should be done for them that worked so well for our antecedents?

Wages should be increased, and the wealth concentrations should be reduced. Like in the 50's. The only way to rise above poverty is to have incomes increase.

Forcing businesses to increase wages solves nothing.

How do you propose to "reduced wealth concentrations"?

 

[Freemason9]

Agreed. Even African Americans benefitted from the New Deal / Fair Deal policies that lifted the poor out of poverty and into the newly-minted American Middle Class, which was the envy of the world.

So now that Mexican-Americans, Haitians, Persians, East Africans and so on are in poverty, while more and more of our sons and duaghters of the Polish, the Italians, the Irish, the Germans, and so on, are falling into poverty, what should be done for them that worked so well for our antecedents?

Wages should be increased, and the wealth concentrations should be reduced. Like in the 50's. The only way to rise above poverty is to have incomes increase.

Forcing businesses to increase wages solves nothing.

How do you propose to "reduced wealth concentrations"?

Labor unions "forced" businesses to increase wages, thus helping to create a wage/salary environment that resulted in the largest and wealthiest middle class society in world history.

Wealth concentrations can be reduced by returning the profits of labor to those that work.

 

[Koios]

Agreed. Even African Americans benefitted from the New Deal / Fair Deal policies that lifted the poor out of poverty and into the newly-minted American Middle Class, which was the envy of the world.

So now that Mexican-Americans, Haitians, Persians, East Africans and so on are in poverty, while more and more of our sons and duaghters of the Polish, the Italians, the Irish, the Germans, and so on, are falling into poverty, what should be done for them that worked so well for our antecedents?

Wages should be increased, and the wealth concentrations should be reduced. Like in the 50's. The only way to rise above poverty is to have incomes increase.

Forcing businesses to increase wages solves nothing.

How do you propose to "reduced wealth concentrations"?

Actually it solves everything. It lowers unemployment. It increases tax revenue. It improves the middle class quality of life, and with it cost for unemployment and family assitiance at the Federal and State level. Plus, it lessens inquality, and the inequality of opportunity at the same time.

What the fuck else is there? Weather? This year's crop of Cabernet grapes in Napa Valley?

 

[koshergrl]

How on earth does increased min wage lower unemployment?

That's the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time.

Though "it improves the middle class quality of life" and the rest of that sentence come in a close sexond. Inequality of opportunity? LOLOLOLOLOLOL...what complete leftist drivel.

You guys are going to die miserable and starving, you know that, right?

 

[Koios]

Agreed. Even African Americans benefitted from the New Deal / Fair Deal policies that lifted the poor out of poverty and into the newly-minted American Middle Class, which was the envy of the world.

So now that Mexican-Americans, Haitians, Persians, East Africans and so on are in poverty, while more and more of our sons and duaghters of the Polish, the Italians, the Irish, the Germans, and so on, are falling into poverty, what should be done for them that worked so well for our antecedents?

Wages should be increased, and the wealth concentrations should be reduced. Like in the 50's. The only way to rise above poverty is to have incomes increase.

Forcing businesses to increase wages solves nothing.

How do you propose to "reduced wealth concentrations"?

Simple: go back to when inequality began trending upwardly; circa 1980. Then reverse the policies that have been extracting middle class wealth and benefitting the very few at the top ...

- Restore the redistributive effect in our progressive tax policy.

- Restore overtime pay laws.

- Bring the minimum wage back up to 1970s levels, inflation adjusted (circa $12 an hour).

- Restore payments back to the States which diminished when Federal revenue tanked, and were thus raised at state levels, often in regressive ways, such as sales tax, sin taxes, liecenses and fees.

 

[Koios]

How on earth does increased min wage lower unemployment?

That's the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time.

Though "it improves the middle class quality of life" and the rest of that sentence come in a close sexond. Inequality of opportunity? LOLOLOLOLOLOL...what complete leftist drivel.

You guys are going to die miserable and starving, you know that, right?

By increasing demand, the lone purpose for hiring.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

They reject birth control.

 

[Koios]

How on earth does increased min wage lower unemployment?

That's the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time.

Though "it improves the middle class quality of life" and the rest of that sentence come in a close sexond. Inequality of opportunity? LOLOLOLOLOLOL...what complete leftist drivel.

You guys are going to die miserable and starving, you know that, right?

Then you need to get out more, or read some of the retarded shit Righties post on this site.

And if you doubt for a second that it does in fact lower unemployment, go look. No shit, everytime we raise it in excess of inflation (increasing spending / demand) unemployment drops. Every fucking time. It's a fact of history. No bullshit right wing think tank pseudo-economic theories needed. We've done it, repeatedly, and can see what happens, for example:

1950: increases 80%, and the unemployment rate was cut in half in the 24 months that followed. But that's merely the most stark example, in which, it went up at a HUGE percentage, far in excess of inflation.

 

[AmyNation]

Increased min wage doesn't result in more money in the pockets of min wage earners. It merely inflats prices.

 

[AmyNation]

Wages should be increased, and the wealth concentrations should be reduced. Like in the 50's. The only way to rise above poverty is to have incomes increase.

Forcing businesses to increase wages solves nothing.

How do you propose to "reduced wealth concentrations"?

Actually it solves everything. It lowers unemployment. It increases tax revenue. It improves the middle class quality of life, and with it cost for unemployment and family assitiance at the Federal and State level. Plus, it lessens inquality, and the inequality of opportunity at the same time.

What the fuck else is there? Weather? This year's crop of Cabernet grapes in Napa Valley?

Are you being serious?

 

[Koios]

Increased min wage doesn't result in more money in the pockets of min wage earners. It merely inflats prices.

You're exactly wrong, on both counts.

Spending money

7.25 per hour, based on 40 hours/week and 51 weeks worked:

Gross - $14,790
FIT ('12) - $504
Payroll - ~$1100
Net - $13,186

12.00 per hour, based on 40 hours/week and 51 weeks worked:

Gross - $24,480
FIT ('12) - $1,774 (3x + tax revenue, for deficit reduction and shit)
Payroll - ~ $1,836 (higher SS award at retirement, and more help with Medicare)
Net - $20,870 ($7,684 additional spending money, annually)

Inflation

Doesn't track. In fact, it goes up as often as it goes down, when the FMW is raised significantly. Tons of history on that. No theories needed. So it either has no effect on inflation, or its effect is so small as to be eclipsed by the main drivers of inflation: commodities and monetary policy.

 

[Koios]

Forcing businesses to increase wages solves nothing.

How do you propose to "reduced wealth concentrations"?

Actually it solves everything. It lowers unemployment. It increases tax revenue. It improves the middle class quality of life, and with it cost for unemployment and family assitiance at the Federal and State level. Plus, it lessens inquality, and the inequality of opportunity at the same time.

What the fuck else is there? Weather? This year's crop of Cabernet grapes in Napa Valley?

Are you being serious?

Yes.