Why is Liberal a 4 Letter Word?

[Max Power]

Liberalism is a political current embracing several historical and present-day ideologies that claim defense of individual liberty as the purpose of government
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

So, classical liberalism would appear to be very noble, and currently embraced by the Libertarian party.

So, how in this political climate, did it become a 4 letter word to be a liberal?

 

[archangel]

Liberalism is a political current embracing several historical and present-day ideologies that claim defense of individual liberty as the purpose of government
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

So, classical liberalism would appear to be very noble, and currently embraced by the Libertarian party.

So, how in this political climate, did it become a 4 letter word to be a liberal?

because you are ruining our country with your self interests....geez if it feels good it must be okay...NOT!

 

[Max Power]

because you are ruining our country with your self interests....geez if it feels good it must be okay...NOT!

WTF are you talking about, archangel?

I'm ruining the country with personal liberties? Where are you from, Saudi Arabia?

 

[archangel]

WTF are you talking about, archangel?

I'm ruining the country with personal liberties? Where are you from, Saudi Arabia?

boy did you luck out...I was so pissed at you I forgot to change the postive on my rep points to you...you got+ 3 points instead of minus 3 points....your lucky day dude...however I am sure some will come in here and correct my mistake...now go play with your pee pee in the tee pee like a good lib should!

 

[Said1]

Liberalism is a political current embracing several historical and present-day ideologies that claim defense of individual liberty as the purpose of government
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

So, classical liberalism would appear to be very noble, and currently embraced by the Libertarian party.

So, how in this political climate, did it become a 4 letter word to be a liberal?

Is classic liberalism a real representation of what most libs stand for today?

 

[Max Power]

Is classic liberalism a real representation of what most libs stand for today?

Well, first of all, that depends on who you mean by "most libs."

If lib is a derogatory term slapped onto people whose political ideology doesn't match your own, then I'd suggest not.

If, on the other hand, these libs are self-proclaimed, then we have a different story.

Certainly, both the ACLU and the NRA represent the defense of personal liberty, the cornerstone of classical liberalism, while covering both the left and right of the current political spectrum.

Perhaps we should not be concerned with right and left, lib and con, but rather concern ourselves with our freedoms.

 

[Max Power]

now go play with your pee pee in the tee pee like a good lib should!

Again with the flaming! Please, keep such comments to yourself.

 

[dilloduck]

Well, first of all, that depends on who you mean by "most libs."

If lib is a derogatory term slapped onto people whose political ideology doesn't match your own, then I'd suggest not.

If, on the other hand, these libs are self-proclaimed, then we have a different story.

Certainly, both the ACLU and the NRA represent the defense of personal liberty, the cornerstone of classical liberalism, while covering both the left and right of the current political spectrum.

Perhaps we should not be concerned with right and left, lib and con, but rather concern ourselves with our freedoms.

I thought that's the only thing a modern day lib cared about---doing anything they feel like!

 

[Said1]

Well, first of all, that depends on who you mean by "most libs."

If lib is a derogatory term slapped onto people whose political ideology doesn't match your own, then I'd suggest not.

If, on the other hand, these libs are self-proclaimed, then we have a different story.

Certainly, both the ACLU and the NRA represent the defense of personal liberty, the cornerstone of classical liberalism, while covering both the left and right of the current political spectrum.

Perhaps we should not be concerned with right and left, lib and con, but rather concern ourselves with our freedoms.

Wow, that was quite the load.

Perhaps you should change the topic of the thread if discussing liberalism was not your intent. Try wikipedia's definition of "our freedoms"

 

[dilloduck]

Wow, that was quite the load.

Perhaps you should change the topic of the thread if discussing liberalism was not your intent. Try wikipedia's definition of "our freedoms"

SELF IS a 4 letter word.

 

[Max Power]

I thought that's the only thing a modern day lib cared about---doing anything they feel like!

Example?

 

[dilloduck]

Example?

"I am offended---stop doing what you are doing"------that attitude supports personal freedoms ?

 

[archangel]

Again with the flaming! Please, keep such comments to yourself.

the truth hurts huh? flaming was not the intent...reality was!

 

[Max Power]

"I am offended---stop doing what you are doing"------that attitude supports personal freedoms ?

No.

I was hoping for a more concrete example.

(Perhaps an ACLU case?)

 

[Max Power]

the truth hurts huh? flaming was not the intent...reality was!

I really don't feel like getting into an argument (i.e. flame war) with you, so please, either make your comments constructive, or don't make them at all.

 

[dilloduck]

No.

I was hoping for a more concrete example.

(Perhaps an ACLU case?)

Naturally you were hoping things to be different-----it's your nature to avoid truth.

 

[Comrade]

I believe that what was considered 'classical liberalism' in America was undermined and usurped by Socialist and internationalist propaganda during the 70's. The holders of the new term 'liberal' are nothing like those which originally fought for equal civil rights (and not affirmative action), freedom from government influence and taxation, and many other issues I won't go into here which are now held more universally among everyone BUT Liberals.

 

[Max Power]

Naturally you were hoping things to be different-

I'm not following you

----it's your nature to avoid truth.

If you're not going to stop flaming, then

 

[dilloduck]

I'm not following you




If you're not going to stop flaming, then

Flaming??---I'm operating with constraint !

 

[Max Power]

Flaming??---I'm operating with constraint !

Then perhaps you would like to elaborate on what exactly you know about my nature?

it's your nature to avoid truth.