Why Have the Arab Muslims in Israel Never even Considered Peace.

[Roudy]

Actually once again there is no point to even discussing the above made-up history to the topic of why Arab Muslims cannot make peace.

Why is it you and the OP refuse to address the facts which show you are lying?

Arab Muslims make up approximately 20% of Israel's citizens- and they live peacefully.
In addition, Egypt's Arab Muslims have been at peace with Israel's Jews since the Camp David Accords.

Why specifically are you trying to foment violence between Arab Muslims and Jews?

Israeli Arab Muslims are a minority in Israel. However, should the shoe be on the other foot and they were a majority, they would be committing a second holocaust on Jews in their own holy land and then move on to the Christians. In other words, the more Muslims within a Western / Democratic / secular society, the more the possibility of social unrest, riots, and terror.

 

[Roudy]

LOL

You might ditch the religious dogma and try learning a little history.

And why, specifically are you lying ?

The vast majority of Arab muslims arrived in the second colonial period of the late 20th century.

So really your nonsense about "killed and threw out the native inhabitants" line is pure fantasy.

The question you are avoiding is, Why the Arab Muslims have stuck to a genocidal agenda instead of ever giving peace a chance

Constantly lying and spamming a fake chart without providing its Hasbara source. Virtually no Arabs arrived in Palestine in the 20th century the Arab population growth was almost entirely natural growth. The arrivals from outside of Palestine were European Jews as officially reported by the UN before they took the decision to give more than half of Palestine to the European settler colonists.

"UNITED
NATIONS
A

• 
  General Assembly

A/364
3 September 1947

OFFICIAL RECORDS OF THE SECOND SESSION OF
THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY
​

(b)IMMIGRATION AND NATURAL INCREASE

15. These changes in the population have been brought about by two forces: natural increase and immigration. The great increase in the Jewish population is due in the main to immigration. From 1920 to 1946, the total number of recorded Jewish immigrants into Palestine was about 376,000, or an average of over 8,000 per year. The flow has not been regular, however, being fairly high in 1924 to 1926, falling in the next few years (there was a net emigration in 1927) and rising to even higher levels between 1933 and 1936 as a result of the Nazi persecution in Europe. Between the census year of 1931 and the year 1936, the proportion of Jews to the total population rose from 18 per cent to nearly 30 per cent.

16. The Arab population has increased almost entirely as a result of an excess of births over deaths."

A/364 of 3 September 1947

Pffft. What's been clearly proven as even the UN and many historians and researchers including from Harvard and Princeton have stated is that there was no reliable way to acquire what the actual numbers of people that were coming into the region were, once the British took over. The entire region was in flux, and there was no way to calculate the massive illegal Arab migration.

There was no Arab illegal immigratiom.

"59. The conclusion is that Arab illegal immigration for the purposes of permanent settlement is insignificant."

A Survey of Palestine Vol 1, page 212, para. 59

A Survey of Palestine Volume 1 Berman Jewish Policy Archive NYU Wagner

Conversely:

"It follows that the Jewish population may now include between 50,000 and 60,000 illegal immigrantswho have settled in Palestine at any time since 1920 when the first Immigration Ordinance was enacted."
A Survey of Palestine Vol 1, page 210, para. 54

On the other hand:

The Arabs in Palestine | Jewish Virtual Library

A Population Boom
As Hussein foresaw, the regeneration of Palestine, and the growth of itspopulation, came only after Jews returned in massive numbers. The Jewish population increased by 470,000 between World War I and World War II while the non-Jewish population rose by 588,000. In fact, the permanent Arab population increased 120 percent between 1922 and 1947.

This rapid growth was a result of several factors. One was immigration from neighboring states — constituting 37 percent of the total immigration to pre-state Israel — by Arabs who wanted to take advantage of the higher standard of living the Jews had made possible. The Arab population also grew because of the improved living conditions created by the Jews as they drained malarial swamps and brought improved sanitation and health care to the region. Thus, for example, the Muslim infant mortality rate fell from 201 per thousand in 1925 to 94 per thousand in 1945 and life expectancy rose from 37 years in 1926 to 49 in 1943.

The Arab population increased the most in cities with large Jewish populations that had created new economic opportunities. From 19221947, the non-Jewish population increased 290 percent in Haifa, 131 percent in Jerusalem and 158 percent in Jaffa. The growth in Arab towns was more modest: 42 percent in Nablus, 78 percent in Jenin and 37 percent in Bethlehem.

Great example- there was massive immigration of both Jews and Arabs to the area during the same time period.

Correct. And then there are those that deny the massive Arab immigration.

 

[Syriusly]

Actually once again there is no point to even discussing the above made-up history to the topic of why Arab Muslims cannot make peace.

Why is it you and the OP refuse to address the facts which show you are lying?

Arab Muslims make up approximately 20% of Israel's citizens- and they live peacefully.
In addition, Egypt's Arab Muslims have been at peace with Israel's Jews since the Camp David Accords.

Why specifically are you trying to foment violence between Arab Muslims and Jews?

Israeli Arab Muslims are a minority in Israel. However, should the shoe be on the other foot and they were a majority, they would be committing a second holocaust on Jews in their own holy land and then move on to the Christians..

Ah- Muslims bad because.....well you say Muslims bad.

You are no different than the anti-semites who blame Jews for every problem in the world.

The fact is that the OP is based upon a lie- as are your posts

Why is it you and the OP refuse to address the facts which show you are lying?

Arab Muslims make up approximately 20% of Israel's citizens- and they live peacefully with Jewish Israeli citizens- contrary to your and the OP's claims
In addition, Egypt's Arab Muslims have been at peace with Israel's Jews since the Camp David Accords.

Why specifically are you trying to foment violence between Arab Muslims and Jews?

 

[Roudy]

Actually once again there is no point to even discussing the above made-up history to the topic of why Arab Muslims cannot make peace.

Why is it you and the OP refuse to address the facts which show you are lying?

Arab Muslims make up approximately 20% of Israel's citizens- and they live peacefully.
In addition, Egypt's Arab Muslims have been at peace with Israel's Jews since the Camp David Accords.

Why specifically are you trying to foment violence between Arab Muslims and Jews?

Israeli Arab Muslims are a minority in Israel. However, should the shoe be on the other foot and they were a majority, they would be committing a second holocaust on Jews in their own holy land and then move on to the Christians..

Ah- Muslims bad because.....well you say Muslims bad.

You are no different than the anti-semites who blame Jews for every problem in the world.

The fact is that the OP is based upon a lie- as are your posts

Why is it you and the OP refuse to address the facts which show you are lying?

Arab Muslims make up approximately 20% of Israel's citizens- and they live peacefully with Jewish Israeli citizens- contrary to your and the OP's claims
In addition, Egypt's Arab Muslims have been at peace with Israel's Jews since the Camp David Accords.

Why specifically are you trying to foment violence between Arab Muslims and Jews?

I'm not formenting anything. You discount what actually happened for Egypt and Jordan to come to the "peace table". I'm telling you to look at Europe and see what's happening with the Muslim population, and why France the country with the most Muslims, has been on semi martial law due to Muslim terrorism.

 

[Challenger]

Oh of course there was MASSIVE ILLEGAL ARAB IMMIGRATION.

Prove it.

 

[Challenger]

The Arabians took over rule of Palestine from the Byzantines shortly thereafter. The Arabians did not settle Palestine. Just like the Byzantines, they merely became rulers of the people already living there.

I remain unconvinced that a people would lose their culture and adopt an entirely new culture without a population transfer/invasion.

Do you drink Coca Cola/Pepsi? Do you wear jeans? Trainers? Chew gum? Ever go to a local MacDonald's or Starbucks? If the answer is "yes" to any of the above, congratulations, you've begun to adopt a foreign culture.

Not the same thing. How am I going to learn an entirely new language with no one to speak it with? How am I going to adopt new religious beliefs with no one to instruct me?

It is the same thing. No one has said the native Palestinians converted by osmosis, the Arabs certainly conquered the place, that's unarguable historical fact. Initially they kept themselves to themselves and let the natives carry on as before, except that the taxes/tributes went to the Arabs. Like anywhere else in history, however, the natives soon learned if you want to get on in life learn the habits and customs of your conquerors so as to fit in, get their jokes, etc. and best of all, if you convert to their religion, you don't have to pay any tax!!! Winner! 300 years later...Judeans, Aramaics, Samaritans, Phoenicians, who are they? We're all "Arabs" now.

 

[Boston1]

Oh of course there was MASSIVE ILLEGAL ARAB IMMIGRATION.

Prove it.

Well thats pretty easy

 

[Boston1]

The Arabians took over rule of Palestine from the Byzantines shortly thereafter. The Arabians did not settle Palestine. Just like the Byzantines, they merely became rulers of the people already living there.

I remain unconvinced that a people would lose their culture and adopt an entirely new culture without a population transfer/invasion.

Do you drink Coca Cola/Pepsi? Do you wear jeans? Trainers? Chew gum? Ever go to a local MacDonald's or Starbucks? If the answer is "yes" to any of the above, congratulations, you've begun to adopt a foreign culture.

Not the same thing. How am I going to learn an entirely new language with no one to speak it with? How am I going to adopt new religious beliefs with no one to instruct me?

It is the same thing. No one has said the native Palestinians converted by osmosis, the Arabs certainly conquered the place, that's unarguable historical fact. Initially they kept themselves to themselves and let the natives carry on as before, except that the taxes/tributes went to the Arabs. Like anywhere else in history, however, the natives soon learned if you want to get on in life learn the habits and customs of your conquerors so as to fit in, get their jokes, etc. and best of all, if you convert to their religion, you don't have to pay any tax!!! Winner! 300 years later...Judeans, Aramaics, Samaritans, Phoenicians, who are they? We're all "Arabs" now.

Thats right for once. You are all Arab Muslims now. Which means you've joined another tribe and given up your former affiliation. In which case you are no longer Judaic or Phoenician or whatever. The Native American tribes did the same thing in that when someone was captured they were generally welcomed into the new tribe and became of that tribe within a generation.

You once again have a very poor grasp of cultural norms. Identity isn't entirely along genetic lines. Its cultural, and the Arab Muslim culture in the middle east has never even remotely considered peace with the Judaic culture. ;--)

Damn, you really were never on a debating team in your life were you Spiffy

 

[Vagabond63]

Oh of course there was MASSIVE ILLEGAL ARAB IMMIGRATION.

Prove it.

Well thats pretty easy

I couldn't help but notice that this graph applies to Jerusalem only. What about the rest of Israel?

 

[Vagabond63]

Thats right for once. You are all Arab Muslims now. Which means you've joined another tribe and given up your former affiliation. In which case you are no longer Judaic or Phoenician or whatever. The Native American tribes did the same thing in that when someone was captured they were generally welcomed into the new tribe and became of that tribe within a generation.

You once again have a very poor grasp of cultural norms. Identity isn't entirely along genetic lines. Its cultural, and the Arab Muslim culture in the middle east has never even remotely considered peace with the Judaic culture. ;--)

To me that says that the Jews who left the area and settled in Europe became Europeans in a few generations. The Jewish people I know all speak English, dress like we do, go to football matches and pubs, do everything thats indistiguishable from non-Jewish people, the only difference is that they go to Church on Saturdays, if they go at all. Your argument makes no sense to me, sorry.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Simple -- they follow a supremacist ideology created by a murderous warlord calling for them to wage war against all others in perpetuity.

 

[montelatici]

Oh of course there was MASSIVE ILLEGAL ARAB IMMIGRATION.

Prove it.

Well thats pretty easy

Wow, your chart looks like the chart below.

 

[Roudy]

Oh of course there was MASSIVE ILLEGAL ARAB IMMIGRATION.

Prove it.

This illegal immigration was not only going on from the Sinai, but also from Transjordan and Syria and it is very difficult to make a case out for the misery of the Arabs if at the same time their compatriots from adjoining states could not be kept from going in to share that misery.[57]
-- British Governor of the Sinai from 1922 to 1936

... So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have
crowded into the country and multiplied till their
population has increased more than even all world Jewry
could lift up the Jewish population.
-- Winston Churchill

Arabs would have sat in the dark forever had not the Zionist engineers harnessed the Jordan river for electrification. Now they swarm into Palestine in seeking the light."
- Winston Churchill, 1922 "A Peace to End All Peace"

Given a multiplicity of such pieces, an image does begin to appear. The Royal Institute for International Affairs adds another piece. Commenting on the growth of the Palestinian population during the decades of the 1920s and 1930s it reports: "The number of Arabs who have entered Palestine illegally from Syria and Transjordan is unknown, but considerable."

 

[Roudy]

Oh of course there was MASSIVE ILLEGAL ARAB IMMIGRATION.

Prove it.

Well thats pretty easy

Many Arabs identify their origins by their family names. Here are some of the most common family names among the "Palestinians":

"Masri" = from Egypt-Hamas member of Parliament, Mushir al-Masri (the word "masri" littelery means "the egyptian" in arabic !).
"Khamis"= Bahrain "Salem Hanna Khamis" "al-Faruqi"= Mosul, Iraq
"al-Araj" = Morocco, a member of the Saadi Dynasty "Hussein al-Araj"
"al Lubnani" = the Lebanese
"al-Mughrabi" = the Moroccan (Maghreb" – meaning "West" in Arabic, and usually referring to North Africa or specifically to Morocco)
"al-Djazair" = the Algerian
"al-Yamani" = the Yemeni "Issam Al Yamani"
"al-Afghani" = the Afghan
"al-Hindi" = the Indian "Amin al-Hindi"
"Iraqi" = from Iraq.
"halabi" = from Aleppo, Syria
"El Baghdadi" = from Baghdad Iraq.
"Tarabulsi"= Tarabulus-Tripoli, Lebanon.
"Hourani" = Houran Syria.
"al-Husayni" = Saudi Arabia.
"Saudi" = Saudi Arabia.
"Metzarwah"= Egypt.
"Barda---wil" = "Salah Bardawil" HAMAS legislator in Gaza; Egypt, Bardawil Lake area.
"Nashashibi" = Syria.
"Bushnak" = Bosnia
"zoabi"= from Iraq: "Haneen Zoabi".
"Turki" = Turkey "Daud Turki"
"al-Kurd" = Kurdistan.
"Haddadins" = YEMEN descended from Ghassanid Christian Arabs.
"Arab Abu-Kishk" = Egypt.(Bedouins)
"Arab al shakirat" = Egypt (Bedouins)
"Arab al zabidat" = Egypt (Bedouins)
"Arab al aramsha" = Egypt (Bedouins)
"Abu Sitta" = In Arabic' Abu means father and sitta means six. Translated it actually means father of six. (The Abu Sitta family primarily received this name because around the year 1700, a well known knight of the large Al-Tarabeen tribe always had six slaves (i.e. fedawyah, bodyguards), 3 on each side, with him. They were with him wherever he went, day or night. Hence the name "ABU SITTA." = Egypt (Bedouins) "Salman Abu Sitta ".)

Even Yasser Arafat, the most famous "Palestinian" and leader of the P.L.O terrorist organization, was not native to Judea. He called himself a "Palestinian refugee" but spoke Arabic with an Egyptian accent. He was born in 1929 Cairo, Egypt. He served in the Egyptian army, studied in the University of Cairo, and lived in Cairo until 1956! His full name was Mohammed Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat al-Qudwa al-Husseini. "Al-Qudwa" tribe origin?

 

[Juicin]

Oh of course there was MASSIVE ILLEGAL ARAB IMMIGRATION.

Prove it.

Well thats pretty easy

Many Arabs identify their origins by their family names. Here are some of the most common family names among the "Palestinians":

"Masri" = from Egypt-Hamas member of Parliament, Mushir al-Masri (the word "masri" littelery means "the egyptian" in arabic !).
"Khamis"= Bahrain "Salem Hanna Khamis" "al-Faruqi"= Mosul, Iraq
"al-Araj" = Morocco, a member of the Saadi Dynasty "Hussein al-Araj"
"al Lubnani" = the Lebanese
"al-Mughrabi" = the Moroccan (Maghreb" – meaning "West" in Arabic, and usually referring to North Africa or specifically to Morocco)
"al-Djazair" = the Algerian
"al-Yamani" = the Yemeni "Issam Al Yamani"
"al-Afghani" = the Afghan
"al-Hindi" = the Indian "Amin al-Hindi"
"Iraqi" = from Iraq.
"halabi" = from Aleppo, Syria
"El Baghdadi" = from Baghdad Iraq.
"Tarabulsi"= Tarabulus-Tripoli, Lebanon.
"Hourani" = Houran Syria.
"al-Husayni" = Saudi Arabia.
"Saudi" = Saudi Arabia.
"Metzarwah"= Egypt.
"Barda---wil" = "Salah Bardawil" HAMAS legislator in Gaza; Egypt, Bardawil Lake area.
"Nashashibi" = Syria.
"Bushnak" = Bosnia
"zoabi"= from Iraq: "Haneen Zoabi".
"Turki" = Turkey "Daud Turki"
"al-Kurd" = Kurdistan.
"Haddadins" = YEMEN descended from Ghassanid Christian Arabs.
"Arab Abu-Kishk" = Egypt.(Bedouins)
"Arab al shakirat" = Egypt (Bedouins)
"Arab al zabidat" = Egypt (Bedouins)
"Arab al aramsha" = Egypt (Bedouins)
"Abu Sitta" = In Arabic' Abu means father and sitta means six. Translated it actually means father of six. (The Abu Sitta family primarily received this name because around the year 1700, a well known knight of the large Al-Tarabeen tribe always had six slaves (i.e. fedawyah, bodyguards), 3 on each side, with him. They were with him wherever he went, day or night. Hence the name "ABU SITTA." = Egypt (Bedouins) "Salman Abu Sitta ".)

Even Yasser Arafat, the most famous "Palestinian" and leader of the P.L.O terrorist organization, was not native to Judea. He called himself a "Palestinian refugee" but spoke Arabic with an Egyptian accent. He was born in 1929 Cairo, Egypt. He served in the Egyptian army, studied in the University of Cairo, and lived in Cairo until 1956! His full name was Mohammed Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat al-Qudwa al-Husseini. "Al-Qudwa" tribe origin?

You understand that literally none of the Jews in Israel have any claim to that land, right? Not a single one can trace their line back more than a couple centuries. And none of them start in Palestine.

Any Ashkenazi claiming to have a blood connection to Palestine is delusional

 

[Roudy]

Oh of course there was MASSIVE ILLEGAL ARAB IMMIGRATION.

Prove it.

Well thats pretty easy

Many Arabs identify their origins by their family names. Here are some of the most common family names among the "Palestinians":

"Masri" = from Egypt-Hamas member of Parliament, Mushir al-Masri (the word "masri" littelery means "the egyptian" in arabic !).
"Khamis"= Bahrain "Salem Hanna Khamis" "al-Faruqi"= Mosul, Iraq
"al-Araj" = Morocco, a member of the Saadi Dynasty "Hussein al-Araj"
"al Lubnani" = the Lebanese
"al-Mughrabi" = the Moroccan (Maghreb" – meaning "West" in Arabic, and usually referring to North Africa or specifically to Morocco)
"al-Djazair" = the Algerian
"al-Yamani" = the Yemeni "Issam Al Yamani"
"al-Afghani" = the Afghan
"al-Hindi" = the Indian "Amin al-Hindi"
"Iraqi" = from Iraq.
"halabi" = from Aleppo, Syria
"El Baghdadi" = from Baghdad Iraq.
"Tarabulsi"= Tarabulus-Tripoli, Lebanon.
"Hourani" = Houran Syria.
"al-Husayni" = Saudi Arabia.
"Saudi" = Saudi Arabia.
"Metzarwah"= Egypt.
"Barda---wil" = "Salah Bardawil" HAMAS legislator in Gaza; Egypt, Bardawil Lake area.
"Nashashibi" = Syria.
"Bushnak" = Bosnia
"zoabi"= from Iraq: "Haneen Zoabi".
"Turki" = Turkey "Daud Turki"
"al-Kurd" = Kurdistan.
"Haddadins" = YEMEN descended from Ghassanid Christian Arabs.
"Arab Abu-Kishk" = Egypt.(Bedouins)
"Arab al shakirat" = Egypt (Bedouins)
"Arab al zabidat" = Egypt (Bedouins)
"Arab al aramsha" = Egypt (Bedouins)
"Abu Sitta" = In Arabic' Abu means father and sitta means six. Translated it actually means father of six. (The Abu Sitta family primarily received this name because around the year 1700, a well known knight of the large Al-Tarabeen tribe always had six slaves (i.e. fedawyah, bodyguards), 3 on each side, with him. They were with him wherever he went, day or night. Hence the name "ABU SITTA." = Egypt (Bedouins) "Salman Abu Sitta ".)

Even Yasser Arafat, the most famous "Palestinian" and leader of the P.L.O terrorist organization, was not native to Judea. He called himself a "Palestinian refugee" but spoke Arabic with an Egyptian accent. He was born in 1929 Cairo, Egypt. He served in the Egyptian army, studied in the University of Cairo, and lived in Cairo until 1956! His full name was Mohammed Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat al-Qudwa al-Husseini. "Al-Qudwa" tribe origin?

You understand that literally none of the Jews in Israel have any claim to that land, right? Not a single one can trace their line back more than a couple centuries. And none of them start in Palestine.

Any Ashkenazi claiming to have a blood connection to Palestine is delusional

They have much more claim to the land than do the Arab Muslim invaders and squatters, that's for sure. Israel is the religious, cultural, and spiritual homeland of the Jews.

 

[montelatici]

There was no Arab immigration to Palestine. It is a bunch of Zionist propaganda as the record shows. All the bullshit propaganda that Ruddy posts is just that, Hasbara.

The facts are available not from just one official source, but from all official sources. Survey of Palestine Vol. 1, page 140. The survey is available via the link below which takes you to the Berman Jewish Policy Archive, now at Stanford University.

And on page 212

A Survey of Palestine Volume 1 | Berman Jewish Policy Archive @ Stanford University

and the United Nations archives, in the partition resolution.

UNITED​

NATIONS​

A

• 
  General Assembly

A/364
3 September 1947

OFFICIAL RECORDS OF THE SECOND SESSION OF ​

THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY​

SUPPLEMENT No. 11

(b)IMMIGRATION AND NATURAL INCREASE

15. These changes in the population have been brought about by two forces: natural increase and immigration. The great increase in the Jewish population is due in the main to immigration. From 1920 to 1946, the total number of recorded Jewish immigrants into Palestine was about 376,000, or an average of over 8,000 per year. The flow has not been regular, however, being fairly high in 1924 to 1926, falling in the next few years (there was a net emigration in 1927) and rising to even higher levels between 1933 and 1936 as a result of the Nazi persecution in Europe. Between the census year of 1931 and the year 1936, the proportion of Jews to the total population rose from 18 per cent to nearly 30 per cent.

16. The Arab population has increased almost entirely as a result of an excess of births over deaths.

https://unispal.un.org/DPA/DPR/unispal.nsf/0/07175DE9FA2DE563852568D3006E10F3

 

[Roudy]

Pffft Meaningless gibberish. Like I said the UN itself and many other organizations called any population numbers totally UNRELIABLE as the British and UN did not have the manpower, financial ability, or desire to account for the massive hoards of Arabs that invaded in the early 20th century. Here is what a few officials on the ground noticed:

This illegal immigration was not only going on from the Sinai, but also from Transjordan and Syria and it is very difficult to make a case out for the misery of the Arabs if at the same time their compatriots from adjoining states could not be kept from going in to share that misery.[57]
-- British Governor of the Sinai from 1922 to 1936

... So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have
crowded into the country and multiplied till their
population has increased more than even all world Jewry
could lift up the Jewish population.
-- Winston Churchill

Arabs would have sat in the dark forever had not the Zionist engineers harnessed the Jordan river for electrification. Now they swarm into Palestine in seeking the light."
- Winston Churchill, 1922 "A Peace to End All Peace"

Given a multiplicity of such pieces, an image does begin to appear. The Royal Institute for International Affairs adds another piece. Commenting on the growth of the Palestinian population during the decades of the 1920s and 1930s it reports: "The number of Arabs who have entered Palestine illegally from Syria and Transjordan is unknown, but considerable."

 

[Roudy]

Let's hear it from the horse's mouth:

 

[Juicin]

Oh of course there was MASSIVE ILLEGAL ARAB IMMIGRATION.

Prove it.

Well thats pretty easy

Many Arabs identify their origins by their family names. Here are some of the most common family names among the "Palestinians":

"Masri" = from Egypt-Hamas member of Parliament, Mushir al-Masri (the word "masri" littelery means "the egyptian" in arabic !).
"Khamis"= Bahrain "Salem Hanna Khamis" "al-Faruqi"= Mosul, Iraq
"al-Araj" = Morocco, a member of the Saadi Dynasty "Hussein al-Araj"
"al Lubnani" = the Lebanese
"al-Mughrabi" = the Moroccan (Maghreb" – meaning "West" in Arabic, and usually referring to North Africa or specifically to Morocco)
"al-Djazair" = the Algerian
"al-Yamani" = the Yemeni "Issam Al Yamani"
"al-Afghani" = the Afghan
"al-Hindi" = the Indian "Amin al-Hindi"
"Iraqi" = from Iraq.
"halabi" = from Aleppo, Syria
"El Baghdadi" = from Baghdad Iraq.
"Tarabulsi"= Tarabulus-Tripoli, Lebanon.
"Hourani" = Houran Syria.
"al-Husayni" = Saudi Arabia.
"Saudi" = Saudi Arabia.
"Metzarwah"= Egypt.
"Barda---wil" = "Salah Bardawil" HAMAS legislator in Gaza; Egypt, Bardawil Lake area.
"Nashashibi" = Syria.
"Bushnak" = Bosnia
"zoabi"= from Iraq: "Haneen Zoabi".
"Turki" = Turkey "Daud Turki"
"al-Kurd" = Kurdistan.
"Haddadins" = YEMEN descended from Ghassanid Christian Arabs.
"Arab Abu-Kishk" = Egypt.(Bedouins)
"Arab al shakirat" = Egypt (Bedouins)
"Arab al zabidat" = Egypt (Bedouins)
"Arab al aramsha" = Egypt (Bedouins)
"Abu Sitta" = In Arabic' Abu means father and sitta means six. Translated it actually means father of six. (The Abu Sitta family primarily received this name because around the year 1700, a well known knight of the large Al-Tarabeen tribe always had six slaves (i.e. fedawyah, bodyguards), 3 on each side, with him. They were with him wherever he went, day or night. Hence the name "ABU SITTA." = Egypt (Bedouins) "Salman Abu Sitta ".)

Even Yasser Arafat, the most famous "Palestinian" and leader of the P.L.O terrorist organization, was not native to Judea. He called himself a "Palestinian refugee" but spoke Arabic with an Egyptian accent. He was born in 1929 Cairo, Egypt. He served in the Egyptian army, studied in the University of Cairo, and lived in Cairo until 1956! His full name was Mohammed Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat al-Qudwa al-Husseini. "Al-Qudwa" tribe origin?

You understand that literally none of the Jews in Israel have any claim to that land, right? Not a single one can trace their line back more than a couple centuries. And none of them start in Palestine.

Any Ashkenazi claiming to have a blood connection to Palestine is delusional

They have much more claim to the land than do the Arab Muslim invaders and squatters, that's for sure. Israel is the religious, cultural, and spiritual homeland of the Jews.

You got anything to back that up beyond their cult like behavior? Because they sure have shit not kept track of their birth living as a minoriity cult in Europe. They aren't Jews by any standard Arab Jews two thousand years ago would have recognized. None of their mothers had a jewish essence much less blood ties to Palestine