Why does Obama Support Zelaya?

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    Ex-President Zelaya of Honduras was exiled from the country on order of the Honduran Supreme Court and Parliament. He has been temporarily replaced by the Chairman of Zelaya's Liberal Party.

    Zelaya, considered by his people to be a puppet of Hugo Chavez, was exiled because he sought to eliminate all term limits on the Presidency. The Supreme Court rightfully believes that he seeks to become dictator, following in the footsteps of Hugo Chavez.

    Unsurprisingly, Chavez threatens to invade Honduras for exiling his buddy Zelaya. So how does America respond?

    Mr. Obama publicly supports Chavez and Zelaya. Besides shocking pretty much anyone who follows the news, Obama's actions signal a complete 180 of American policy, by directly supporting Communist Dictators.

    In fact, it appears the only countries supporting the Honduran people are Panama and Columbia. Hmm.


    So, why does Obama openly support the destruction of democracy in Honduras?

    Rush suggested that, in Obama's ideal world, Mr. Obama is president for life, without an annoying Congress or electorate to please. This would give Mr. Obama all the power he needs to remake American in his image.


    Do I think Obama dreams himself dictator? Most certainly, yes! Even with supermajorities in Congress, he still continually seeks ways to limit the power of the legislative branch. Further, his detainment policies, outlined so far, are an affront to the Constitution and basic human rights.

    Key Points:

    1. Obama's policy of indefinite, preventative detainment without trial.
    2. Obama's policy of indefinite, preventative detainment of individuals already found not guilty.
    3. Obama's policy of signing and enforcing treaties without the approval of Congress, until after the fact.
    4. Obama's near-complete control of the press, according to the oldest member of the Washington Press Corps.
    5. Obama's de-facto nationalization of the world's largest companies.



    Had you given me these links one year ago, I would've laughed and called you crazy. But this is our new reality. When will our Congress, our Supreme Court, when will America wake up?

    P.S. For any liberals about to say "But Bush did it too!" If you didn't like it under Bush, you should be outraged about it now! Saying "The other guy did it, too" does nothing to help the situation.
     
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    Sweet willy will be along soon to tell you how wrong you are


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    I look forward to the hoops posters here will jump through to justify Obama's actions...
     
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    The Panamanian government condemned the coup. Colombia rejected the removal by force of Zelaya. I guess every single government in the continent is run by dictators who want to destroy freedom. What a twist of irony; now only Republicans and Military establishments care about our freedom now. Hahaha.

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    I think Obama is doing it because it sets bad precedent. Military coups are unnacceptable. If he was doing something illegal he should've been arrested, tried, and sent to jail. They had no business dumping him here.
     
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    except is wasnt a military coup
    no one from the military was put in power
    the military was following the orders of the legislative branch and the judicial branch
    and the Honduran Congress appointed the replacement
     
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    *Facepalm*
    How many Military Coups put the ousted President's political party back in charge? Not any :lol:

    That is like the Supreme Court ousting Obama, and then making Harry Reid President.
     
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    Because Obama is a Marxist.

     
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    Let's put this in terms liberals can understand.

    Richard Nixon in 1974 declares an emergency election to make him President for Life. The Supreme Court says he cannot do that, it is against the constitution. Nixon, with the full support of the USSR, brings in ballots anyways, and starts riots to force an election.

    The Supreme Court is fearing the rioters, and so calls in the US Military to exile Nixon to Cuba and install Gerald Ford as President. The Supreme Court then begins working out a legal case with which to try Nixon.

    Suddenly, the USSR threatens to invade if the Supreme Court does not re-install Nixon back to power. The USSR manages to rally the entire UN and condemns the US Supreme Court and Gerald Ford.


    Now, in this situation, how would it protect democracy to re-install Nixon as President?
     
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    What a croc of shit. I don't even know where to start.

    Chavez is not a dictator. He is an elected official. The people of Venezuela VOTED to remove term limits so that he can run as often as he likes. The measure FAILED once, voted down by the poeple. Then it was voted on again, including no term limits for ALL politicians, and it passed. He is no more of a dictator than FDR.

    In Russia, President Obama Explains His Support for Ousted President of Honduras - Political Punch

    This link you posted in the OP was absolutely a lie. There is no mention of anything AT ALL regarding Obama's disposition to Chavez.

    This is the only mention of Chavez in your cite. Exaclty how does this support anything regarding what Baral Obama thinks of Chavez?

    Obama has repeatedly stated that Democratic principle is his focus in this matter. If you can demonstrate "open support" for the destruction of democracy, please do. Your own cites say other wise.



    In short, you're a douchebag, lying piece of shit.

    Other than that, have a nice day! :lol:

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