Wyatt earp
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Where is the evidence that actual votes are being casted from dead people? See, maybe you didn’t know this, but just because there are dead people on a registration record, it doesn’t somehow mean that votes from these dead people are being casted.Before Obama, republican voters didn’t even think voter fraud was really a thing. Now they pretend it is crucial to maintaining democracy because the GOP says so. Why do republican voters buy into it? Because republican puppets like Fox News cite stories about people voting illegally. The problem with this is that those stories refer strictly to statistical anomalies that ultimately mean nothing. In other words, while voter fraud has occurred in the past, it is completely unnecessary to crack down on because it is STATISTICALLY very RARE and therefore have no real effect on the democratic process. So when the GOP puts forth policies that they pretend are trying to save the democratic process, all they are really doing is crafting policies that target the vote of vulnerable populations who tend to vote democrat like black people. The result is 10s of thousands of people who are eligible to vote are given setbacks that discourage them from trying to vote. That means that even if these voter laws made fraud more difficult for a very small statistic of voters, it doesn’t change the fact that 10s of thousands of people who would be voting legally otherwise are prevented from casting their votes.
Why should anyone take voter ID laws seriously? Again, it wasn’t even a topic of political conversation prior to Obama. Hmm. That seems odd, right?
Oh really these memes have been around since the 1920s ..
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Chicago And Rigged Elections? The History Is Even Crazier Than You've Heard
It was Mayor Anton Cermak, the first in an unbroken stream of Democratic mayors since 1931, who created what would became known as the infamous "Democratic Machine," said Bob Crawford, a now-retired journalist who covered city politics for decades for WBBM-AM and was considered the dean of the City Hall press corps. The right candidates, and the people who worked in it weren't shy about using money, bribes or fake identities to get votes for Democrats.
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Here are a few of the tricks the Machine used:
• Electoral rolls are supposed to keep track of who is registered to vote. The rolls would be rigged so dead people's names still appeared on them, Crawford said, meaning others could vote for the candidate of their choice in the dead person's name.
Sometimes, people working for the Machine would even go into cemeteries and take the names off of tombstones, then go back and fill out voter registration cards with the dead person's names as if they were still alive, Crawford said.
• Election judges are supposed to keep an eye out for anything fishy at the polls. Republicans had a small presence in the city, though, and it was difficult to find Republican volunteers for the post, Crawford said.
Democrats would pretend to be Republicans and would volunteer, meaning there were actually two Democrats at polling places. Officers who provided security got their jobs from the Machine and weren't going to say anything about what happened, Crawford said.
• People would be promised $5, a warm meal or a drink at the local pub to vote for the "right" people, said Crawford and Simpson.
Sometimes, the precinct captain would steal a ballot, mark it and give it to someone to turn in, Simpson said. That person would then bring the blank ballot they'd been given at the polling place back to the captain, who'd fill it out for the next person to come in, and so on.
An old sewer boss, Ed Quigley, once told Crawford he had a special way to make sure people voted the right way: When a voter would go behind a curtain to cast his or her ballot, they had to move to to one side to vote for a Democrat or the other side to vote for a Republican. Quigley would look under the curtain at the voter's feet to make sure they were on the Democratic side, Crawford said.
• No Republicans to watch for suspicious activity in the precinct? The Democratic precinct captain would just vote for people who didn't come in, Simpson said.
• Ward committeemen would go to nursing homes and "help" senior people with marking absentee ballots by holding the voter's hand, Crawford said. Nursing homes would cooperate because they needed a good relationship with the city, which inspects them, he said.
An old Mike Royko column 1993..
TO DEMOCRATS, THIS IS LOT LIKE OLD TIMES
TO DEMOCRATS, THIS IS LOT LIKE OLD TIMES
Mike RoykoCHICAGO TRIBUNE
If it turns out that Republicans stole the governor's election in New Jersey by bribing blacks not to vote, I'll be surprised. I never thought Republicans were that smart.
As a Chicagoan, I've always known that Democrats had made vote-buying a science. I've watched precinct captains, pinky rings glittering, pull out huge rolls to pay ghetto voters on Election Day.
As these voters neared their polling place, they'd be asking: "Where's my money?" And one of the vote-hustlers would press a few dollars into their hands.
When we still had a Skid Row (before the low-rent flophouses were torn down and the drunks were scattered and officially designated as "homeless"), the Democratic machine's precinct workers would hand out thousands of bottles of old skullpopper to buy the votes of the lushes.