Why does average joe republican support these voter ID laws?

[Wyatt earp]

Before Obama, republican voters didn’t even think voter fraud was really a thing. Now they pretend it is crucial to maintaining democracy because the GOP says so. Why do republican voters buy into it? Because republican puppets like Fox News cite stories about people voting illegally. The problem with this is that those stories refer strictly to statistical anomalies that ultimately mean nothing. In other words, while voter fraud has occurred in the past, it is completely unnecessary to crack down on because it is STATISTICALLY very RARE and therefore have no real effect on the democratic process. So when the GOP puts forth policies that they pretend are trying to save the democratic process, all they are really doing is crafting policies that target the vote of vulnerable populations who tend to vote democrat like black people. The result is 10s of thousands of people who are eligible to vote are given setbacks that discourage them from trying to vote. That means that even if these voter laws made fraud more difficult for a very small statistic of voters, it doesn’t change the fact that 10s of thousands of people who would be voting legally otherwise are prevented from casting their votes.

Why should anyone take voter ID laws seriously? Again, it wasn’t even a topic of political conversation prior to Obama. Hmm. That seems odd, right?

Oh really these memes have been around since the 1920s ..


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Where is the evidence that actual votes are being casted from dead people? See, maybe you didn’t know this, but just because there are dead people on a registration record, it doesn’t somehow mean that votes from these dead people are being casted.

Youre talking to a Chicago born guy who loves news and politics


Chicago And Rigged Elections? The History Is Even Crazier Than You've Heard

It was Mayor Anton Cermak, the first in an unbroken stream of Democratic mayors since 1931, who created what would became known as the infamous "Democratic Machine," said Bob Crawford, a now-retired journalist who covered city politics for decades for WBBM-AM and was considered the dean of the City Hall press corps. The right candidates, and the people who worked in it weren't shy about using money, bribes or fake identities to get votes for Democrats.

More ..


Here are a few of the tricks the Machine used:

• Electoral rolls are supposed to keep track of who is registered to vote. The rolls would be rigged so dead people's names still appeared on them, Crawford said, meaning others could vote for the candidate of their choice in the dead person's name.

Sometimes, people working for the Machine would even go into cemeteries and take the names off of tombstones, then go back and fill out voter registration cards with the dead person's names as if they were still alive, Crawford said.

• Election judges are supposed to keep an eye out for anything fishy at the polls. Republicans had a small presence in the city, though, and it was difficult to find Republican volunteers for the post, Crawford said.

Democrats would pretend to be Republicans and would volunteer, meaning there were actually two Democrats at polling places. Officers who provided security got their jobs from the Machine and weren't going to say anything about what happened, Crawford said.

• People would be promised $5, a warm meal or a drink at the local pub to vote for the "right" people, said Crawford and Simpson.

Sometimes, the precinct captain would steal a ballot, mark it and give it to someone to turn in, Simpson said. That person would then bring the blank ballot they'd been given at the polling place back to the captain, who'd fill it out for the next person to come in, and so on.

An old sewer boss, Ed Quigley, once told Crawford he had a special way to make sure people voted the right way: When a voter would go behind a curtain to cast his or her ballot, they had to move to to one side to vote for a Democrat or the other side to vote for a Republican. Quigley would look under the curtain at the voter's feet to make sure they were on the Democratic side, Crawford said.

• No Republicans to watch for suspicious activity in the precinct? The Democratic precinct captain would just vote for people who didn't come in, Simpson said.

• Ward committeemen would go to nursing homes and "help" senior people with marking absentee ballots by holding the voter's hand, Crawford said. Nursing homes would cooperate because they needed a good relationship with the city, which inspects them, he said.

An old Mike Royko column 1993..


TO DEMOCRATS, THIS IS LOT LIKE OLD TIMES

TO DEMOCRATS, THIS IS LOT LIKE OLD TIMES
Mike RoykoCHICAGO TRIBUNE


If it turns out that Republicans stole the governor's election in New Jersey by bribing blacks not to vote, I'll be surprised. I never thought Republicans were that smart.

As a Chicagoan, I've always known that Democrats had made vote-buying a science. I've watched precinct captains, pinky rings glittering, pull out huge rolls to pay ghetto voters on Election Day.


As these voters neared their polling place, they'd be asking: "Where's my money?" And one of the vote-hustlers would press a few dollars into their hands.

When we still had a Skid Row (before the low-rent flophouses were torn down and the drunks were scattered and officially designated as "homeless"), the Democratic machine's precinct workers would hand out thousands of bottles of old skullpopper to buy the votes of the lushes.

 

[theHawk]

A big reason the left are against voter ID is because they like to undermine trust in our democratic process.

The last thing Dems want is for an election to be bullet proof against fraud when they lose.

Remember these neo-Marxists hate our republic and want to destroy it. Fortifying our republic against corruption and fraud are the last thing they want.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Before Obama, republican voters didn’t even think voter fraud was really a thing. Now they pretend it is crucial to maintaining democracy because the GOP says so. Why do republican voters buy into it? Because republican puppets like Fox News cite stories about people voting illegally. The problem with this is that those stories refer strictly to statistical anomalies that ultimately mean nothing. In other words, while voter fraud has occurred in the past, it is completely unnecessary to crack down on because it is STATISTICALLY very RARE and therefore have no real effect on the democratic process. So when the GOP puts forth policies that they pretend are trying to save the democratic process, all they are really doing is crafting policies that target the vote of vulnerable populations who tend to vote democrat like black people. The result is 10s of thousands of people who are eligible to vote are given setbacks that discourage them from trying to vote. That means that even if these voter laws made fraud more difficult for a very small statistic of voters, it doesn’t change the fact that 10s of thousands of people who would be voting legally otherwise are prevented from casting their votes.

Why should anyone take voter ID laws seriously? Again, it wasn’t even a topic of political conversation prior to Obama. Hmm. That seems odd, right?

Oh really these memes have been around since the 1920s ..


View attachment 223887

Where is the evidence that actual votes are being casted from dead people? See, maybe you didn’t know this, but just because there are dead people on a registration record, it doesn’t somehow mean that votes from these dead people are being casted.

Youre talking to a Chicago born guy who loves news and politics


Chicago And Rigged Elections? The History Is Even Crazier Than You've Heard

It was Mayor Anton Cermak, the first in an unbroken stream of Democratic mayors since 1931, who created what would became known as the infamous "Democratic Machine," said Bob Crawford, a now-retired journalist who covered city politics for decades for WBBM-AM and was considered the dean of the City Hall press corps. The right candidates, and the people who worked in it weren't shy about using money, bribes or fake identities to get votes for Democrats.

More ..


Here are a few of the tricks the Machine used:

• Electoral rolls are supposed to keep track of who is registered to vote. The rolls would be rigged so dead people's names still appeared on them, Crawford said, meaning others could vote for the candidate of their choice in the dead person's name.

Sometimes, people working for the Machine would even go into cemeteries and take the names off of tombstones, then go back and fill out voter registration cards with the dead person's names as if they were still alive, Crawford said.

• Election judges are supposed to keep an eye out for anything fishy at the polls. Republicans had a small presence in the city, though, and it was difficult to find Republican volunteers for the post, Crawford said.

Democrats would pretend to be Republicans and would volunteer, meaning there were actually two Democrats at polling places. Officers who provided security got their jobs from the Machine and weren't going to say anything about what happened, Crawford said.

• People would be promised $5, a warm meal or a drink at the local pub to vote for the "right" people, said Crawford and Simpson.

Sometimes, the precinct captain would steal a ballot, mark it and give it to someone to turn in, Simpson said. That person would then bring the blank ballot they'd been given at the polling place back to the captain, who'd fill it out for the next person to come in, and so on.

An old sewer boss, Ed Quigley, once told Crawford he had a special way to make sure people voted the right way: When a voter would go behind a curtain to cast his or her ballot, they had to move to to one side to vote for a Democrat or the other side to vote for a Republican. Quigley would look under the curtain at the voter's feet to make sure they were on the Democratic side, Crawford said.

• No Republicans to watch for suspicious activity in the precinct? The Democratic precinct captain would just vote for people who didn't come in, Simpson said.

• Ward committeemen would go to nursing homes and "help" senior people with marking absentee ballots by holding the voter's hand, Crawford said. Nursing homes would cooperate because they needed a good relationship with the city, which inspects them, he said.

An old Mike Royko column 1993..


TO DEMOCRATS, THIS IS LOT LIKE OLD TIMES

TO DEMOCRATS, THIS IS LOT LIKE OLD TIMES
Mike RoykoCHICAGO TRIBUNE


If it turns out that Republicans stole the governor's election in New Jersey by bribing blacks not to vote, I'll be surprised. I never thought Republicans were that smart.

As a Chicagoan, I've always known that Democrats had made vote-buying a science. I've watched precinct captains, pinky rings glittering, pull out huge rolls to pay ghetto voters on Election Day.


As these voters neared their polling place, they'd be asking: "Where's my money?" And one of the vote-hustlers would press a few dollars into their hands.

When we still had a Skid Row (before the low-rent flophouses were torn down and the drunks were scattered and officially designated as "homeless"), the Democratic machine's precinct workers would hand out thousands of bottles of old skullpopper to buy the votes of the lushes.

This brings back memories, god I miss reading Mike everyday ...



More same column..




In middle-class neighborhoods, the bribe didn't take the form of cash or booze. It was the favor or the fix.

Voiding a few parking tickets. Shooing away city building inspectors. Getting people out of jury duty. Arranging bond for a rowdy relative. Fixing a driver's test. Or something so modest as the gift of a new garbage can.


Whatever form it took, it still amounted to bribery and vote-buying.

And some ward bosses were so skillful that they could arrange to get whatever size vote they wanted.

One Election Night, a West Side boss walked into Democratic headquarters and complained that an over-eager hustler had delivered a precinct by more than 300 to zero.

The ward boss said he had ordered the precinct captain to throw a few votes to the Republican side so they wouldn't be investigated.

 

[protectionist]

All that “hollering” isn’t based on actual evidence. You just choose to believe anything the GOP tells you.

That's what YOU're doing with what the Democrats tell you. How do you or they know that voter fraud (illegal aliens) is "STATISTICALLY very RARE" You don't know that.

There have been multiple investigations that have shown alien voting to be quite common.

Yes, Illegal Aliens Are Voting

Texas Democrats Are Attempting to Register Aliens to Vote

Finally Proof of Illegal Alien Voting

Alien Invasion: Thousands of Foreigners Registered to Vote (and Voting) in Virginia

http://thf-legal.s3.amazonaws.com/VoterFraudCases.pdf

Do Illegal Votes Decide Elections?

 

[Freiheit]

Before Obama, republican voters didn’t even think voter fraud was really a thing. Now they pretend it is crucial to maintaining democracy because the GOP says so. Why do republican voters buy into it? Because republican puppets like Fox News cite stories about people voting illegally. The problem with this is that those stories refer strictly to statistical anomalies that ultimately mean nothing. In other words, while voter fraud has occurred in the past, it is completely unnecessary to crack down on because it is STATISTICALLY very RARE and therefore have no real effect on the democratic process. So when the GOP puts forth policies that they pretend are trying to save the democratic process, all they are really doing is crafting policies that target the vote of vulnerable populations who tend to vote democrat like black people. The result is 10s of thousands of people who are eligible to vote are given setbacks that discourage them from trying to vote. That means that even if these voter laws made fraud more difficult for a very small statistic of voters, it doesn’t change the fact that 10s of thousands of people who would be voting legally otherwise are prevented from casting their votes.

Why should anyone take voter ID laws seriously? Again, it wasn’t even a topic of political conversation prior to Obama. Hmm. That seems odd, right?

LBJ even joked about being elected by 300 dead mexicans. Democrats need to study some history and join the real world. These sort of statements stretch credulity to the breaking point.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Oh really these memes have been around since the 1920s ..


View attachment 223887

Where is the evidence that actual votes are being casted from dead people? See, maybe you didn’t know this, but just because there are dead people on a registration record, it doesn’t somehow mean that votes from these dead people are being casted.

Youre talking to a Chicago born guy who loves news and politics


Chicago And Rigged Elections? The History Is Even Crazier Than You've Heard

It was Mayor Anton Cermak, the first in an unbroken stream of Democratic mayors since 1931, who created what would became known as the infamous "Democratic Machine," said Bob Crawford, a now-retired journalist who covered city politics for decades for WBBM-AM and was considered the dean of the City Hall press corps. The right candidates, and the people who worked in it weren't shy about using money, bribes or fake identities to get votes for Democrats.

More ..


Here are a few of the tricks the Machine used:

• Electoral rolls are supposed to keep track of who is registered to vote. The rolls would be rigged so dead people's names still appeared on them, Crawford said, meaning others could vote for the candidate of their choice in the dead person's name.

Sometimes, people working for the Machine would even go into cemeteries and take the names off of tombstones, then go back and fill out voter registration cards with the dead person's names as if they were still alive, Crawford said.

• Election judges are supposed to keep an eye out for anything fishy at the polls. Republicans had a small presence in the city, though, and it was difficult to find Republican volunteers for the post, Crawford said.

Democrats would pretend to be Republicans and would volunteer, meaning there were actually two Democrats at polling places. Officers who provided security got their jobs from the Machine and weren't going to say anything about what happened, Crawford said.

• People would be promised $5, a warm meal or a drink at the local pub to vote for the "right" people, said Crawford and Simpson.

Sometimes, the precinct captain would steal a ballot, mark it and give it to someone to turn in, Simpson said. That person would then bring the blank ballot they'd been given at the polling place back to the captain, who'd fill it out for the next person to come in, and so on.

An old sewer boss, Ed Quigley, once told Crawford he had a special way to make sure people voted the right way: When a voter would go behind a curtain to cast his or her ballot, they had to move to to one side to vote for a Democrat or the other side to vote for a Republican. Quigley would look under the curtain at the voter's feet to make sure they were on the Democratic side, Crawford said.

• No Republicans to watch for suspicious activity in the precinct? The Democratic precinct captain would just vote for people who didn't come in, Simpson said.

• Ward committeemen would go to nursing homes and "help" senior people with marking absentee ballots by holding the voter's hand, Crawford said. Nursing homes would cooperate because they needed a good relationship with the city, which inspects them, he said.

An old Mike Royko column 1993..


TO DEMOCRATS, THIS IS LOT LIKE OLD TIMES

TO DEMOCRATS, THIS IS LOT LIKE OLD TIMES
Mike RoykoCHICAGO TRIBUNE


If it turns out that Republicans stole the governor's election in New Jersey by bribing blacks not to vote, I'll be surprised. I never thought Republicans were that smart.

As a Chicagoan, I've always known that Democrats had made vote-buying a science. I've watched precinct captains, pinky rings glittering, pull out huge rolls to pay ghetto voters on Election Day.


As these voters neared their polling place, they'd be asking: "Where's my money?" And one of the vote-hustlers would press a few dollars into their hands.

When we still had a Skid Row (before the low-rent flophouses were torn down and the drunks were scattered and officially designated as "homeless"), the Democratic machine's precinct workers would hand out thousands of bottles of old skullpopper to buy the votes of the lushes.

This brings back memories, god I miss reading Mike everyday ...



More same column..




In middle-class neighborhoods, the bribe didn't take the form of cash or booze. It was the favor or the fix.

Voiding a few parking tickets. Shooing away city building inspectors. Getting people out of jury duty. Arranging bond for a rowdy relative. Fixing a driver's test. Or something so modest as the gift of a new garbage can.


Whatever form it took, it still amounted to bribery and vote-buying.

And some ward bosses were so skillful that they could arrange to get whatever size vote they wanted.

One Election Night, a West Side boss walked into Democratic headquarters and complained that an over-eager hustler had delivered a precinct by more than 300 to zero.

The ward boss said he had ordered the precinct captain to throw a few votes to the Republican side so they wouldn't be investigated.

Did JFK Steal The 1960 Election?

Mayor Daley was known for stuffing ballot boxes and giving ward bosses and precinct captains vote quotas. Two recounts of Chicago-area voting later showed that Democrats had likely stolen tens of thousands of votes for the Democratic ticket, including down-ballot races. Special prosecutor Wexler's report, issued in April 1961, found "substantial" miscounts in the 1,367 precincts it examined, including unqualified voters, misread voting machines and math mistakes. In one precinct, voters asked where to deposit tickets for drawing for hams. In another, a precinct captain handed out slips of paper entitling voters to free lunches. In many precincts, boarding house bums and vagrants were promised and given a shot of whiskey for a vote. There is substantial evidence that these fraudulent voters were shuttled from polling place to polling place and were "repeaters." Wexler's inquiry was hampered by the non-cooperation of Cook County officials and the Democratic machine, where Wexler was stonewalled. Wexler brought contempt charges against 667 election officials, but the cases were dismissed by a Democratic judge.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Before Obama, republican voters didn’t even think voter fraud was really a thing. Now they pretend it is crucial to maintaining democracy because the GOP says so. Why do republican voters buy into it? Because republican puppets like Fox News cite stories about people voting illegally. The problem with this is that those stories refer strictly to statistical anomalies that ultimately mean nothing. In other words, while voter fraud has occurred in the past, it is completely unnecessary to crack down on because it is STATISTICALLY very RARE and therefore have no real effect on the democratic process. So when the GOP puts forth policies that they pretend are trying to save the democratic process, all they are really doing is crafting policies that target the vote of vulnerable populations who tend to vote democrat like black people. The result is 10s of thousands of people who are eligible to vote are given setbacks that discourage them from trying to vote. That means that even if these voter laws made fraud more difficult for a very small statistic of voters, it doesn’t change the fact that 10s of thousands of people who would be voting legally otherwise are prevented from casting their votes.

Why should anyone take voter ID laws seriously? Again, it wasn’t even a topic of political conversation prior to Obama. Hmm. That seems odd, right?

Odd ?

Not at all.

The left has taken this to a new level and it started with his election (which I am not disputing). It was during that same time.

The left is tired of losing seats in every state house and can't seem to come up with a message that inspires it's drug crazed followers....

So it does something else.

 

[Norman]

Before Obama, republican voters didn’t even think voter fraud was really a thing. Now they pretend it is crucial to maintaining democracy because the GOP says so. Why do republican voters buy into it? Because republican puppets like Fox News cite stories about people voting illegally. The problem with this is that those stories refer strictly to statistical anomalies that ultimately mean nothing. In other words, while voter fraud has occurred in the past, it is completely unnecessary to crack down on because it is STATISTICALLY very RARE and therefore have no real effect on the democratic process. So when the GOP puts forth policies that they pretend are trying to save the democratic process, all they are really doing is crafting policies that target the vote of vulnerable populations who tend to vote democrat like black people. The result is 10s of thousands of people who are eligible to vote are given setbacks that discourage them from trying to vote. That means that even if these voter laws made fraud more difficult for a very small statistic of voters, it doesn’t change the fact that 10s of thousands of people who would be voting legally otherwise are prevented from casting their votes.

Why should anyone take voter ID laws seriously? Again, it wasn’t even a topic of political conversation prior to Obama. Hmm. That seems odd, right?

Odd ?

Not at all.

The left has taken this to a new level and it started with his election (which I am not disputing). It was during that same time.

The left is tired of losing seats in every state house and can't seem to come up with a message that inspires it's drug crazed followers....

So it does something else.

Does something else...

Alienates Americans and brings in aliens.

 

[fncceo]

"Why does average joe republican support these voter ID laws?"

Absolutely the DUMBEST question on the board right now.

Are you sure? The competition is pretty stiff right now.

 

[Kat]

 

[S.J.]

votes from these dead people are being casted.

The past tense of cast is cast.

He's a fucking idiot.

 

[007]

This is NOT new news... this is NOT a mystery or a conspiracy theory... the democrat mongrels RELY on ILLEGAL ALIENS to VOTE, PERIOD, and the kenyan muslim dog turd in all his GLORY and COCKINESS OPENLY URGED ILLEGAL ALIENS to VOTE. NO AMOUNT of leftist DENIALS can refute the words that come STRAIGHT FROM HIS MOUTH... and NOTHING has changed. The democrats LOVE illegal aliens because they believe the illegals ALWAYS vote DEMOCRAT... this is COMMON KNOWLEDGE... it is NOT a mystery or something no one KNEW...

 

[Windparadox]

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I'm neither democrat nor republican and have no problem with voter ID. I don't buy into the propaganda that people are being denied the right to vote for lack of a official, state or local governmental picture ID nor do I believe that there is massive voter fraud ( https://www.brennancenter.org/sites.../Briefing_Memo_Debunking_Voter_Fraud_Myth.pdf )

 

[Muhammed]

Before Obama, republican voters didn’t even think voter fraud was really a thing. Now they pretend it is crucial to maintaining democracy because the GOP says so. Why do republican voters buy into it? Because republican puppets like Fox News cite stories about people voting illegally. The problem with this is that those stories refer strictly to statistical anomalies that ultimately mean nothing. In other words, while voter fraud has occurred in the past, it is completely unnecessary to crack down on because it is STATISTICALLY very RARE and therefore have no real effect on the democratic process. So when the GOP puts forth policies that they pretend are trying to save the democratic process, all they are really doing is crafting policies that target the vote of vulnerable populations who tend to vote democrat like black people. The result is 10s of thousands of people who are eligible to vote are given setbacks that discourage them from trying to vote. That means that even if these voter laws made fraud more difficult for a very small statistic of voters, it doesn’t change the fact that 10s of thousands of people who would be voting legally otherwise are prevented from casting their votes.

Why should anyone take voter ID laws seriously? Again, it wasn’t even a topic of political conversation prior to Obama. Hmm. That seems odd, right?

And of course you're simply lying.

 

[longknife]

I was surprised when I got my sample ballot for here in Nevada to find this:

You may be asked for identification at the voting site.

It also included a severe warning about attempting to vote more than once, citing a law making it a Class D Felony.

What's going on here? Isn't this Dingy Harry's state?

I strongly support voter ID!!!

 

[blackhawk]

I don't know I wonder why Democrats are suddenly scared shitless of Russia under Obama we had this great reset with Russia and when Mitt Romney called them our greatest geo political threat President Obama and his supporters mocked and ridiculed him yet now they are the greatest threat the world has ever seen.