Why do retired Bronze star winners run as Democrats?

[The Rabbi]

And then there was Wesley Clark. He was a sure winner right up until he announced his candidacy.
The US doesn't have much of a tradition of soldiers going into politics. Washington, Grant, Jackson, Eisenhower are all pretty much the exceptions.
The Democrats have specifically recruited monkeys like Webb precisely because they are unusual in supporting Democrats.
Give me Curtis LeMay as a candidate any day.

 

[FA_Q2]

I agree with that.
I am talking about career officers and in a district 70% Republican.
Name a retired decorated career combat West Point grad Colonel running as a Republican.
I M telling you folks. Ask Jim Webb and this guy and the Pentagon of the Iraq mess with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al.
Those folks were not Democrats.

How does General Dwight D. Eisenhower a/k/a President Eisenhower grab you? He was a Republican. West Point grad, decorated and had combat experience.

How about General Norman Schwarzkopf? West Point grad, decorated and had combat experience.

and colin powell endorsed president obama; and admiral sestak is a democrat.

i'm gonna go with military folk have the same variances as every other segment of the population for 1,000, alex. (though i'm not sure if they're bronze star winners).

I would not go that far. Most of the military is republican, by a large margin. It is the type of person that the military draws. Then again, there are plenty of military people that cannot name the three branches of government so it really does not matter. Service is a plus for a candidate no matter what party they belong to and the OP has no real point. Just because there are 2 officers running for office as a democrat means nothing whatsoever.

 

[The Rabbi]

How does General Dwight D. Eisenhower a/k/a President Eisenhower grab you? He was a Republican. West Point grad, decorated and had combat experience.

How about General Norman Schwarzkopf? West Point grad, decorated and had combat experience.

and colin powell endorsed president obama; and admiral sestak is a democrat.

i'm gonna go with military folk have the same variances as every other segment of the population for 1,000, alex. (though i'm not sure if they're bronze star winners).

I would not go that far. Most of the military is republican, by a large margin. It is the type of person that the military draws. Then again, there are plenty of military people that cannot name the three branches of government so it really does not matter. Service is a plus for a candidate no matter what party they belong to and the OP has no real point. Just because there are 2 officers running for office as a democrat means nothing whatsoever.

Yes. This is why the Gore campaign sought to suppress military votes in the Florida election.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

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Too-confusing, for you, huh?

I'm guessin'.....continually gettin' backed-into-a-corner could do that, to you....and, you certainly do seem to enjoy that!!

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Ya....OK fuckstain. When you grow up and stop wearing Huggies...come back and let's debate the 5 deferrment Biden's chicken hawk case....shall we?

There's nothin' to debate.

The Republican-elite are (primarily) Chickenhawks! Grab your little-white-flag and exit the corner. You've obviously suffered enough (embarrassment)....as is evidenced by your spastic, lil' fit.

Run, along.....


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[geauxtohell]

Here's one from Missouri running as a Democrat:

Tommy spent 11 years active duty and obtained the grade of Major. During the Balkan war, he deployed to Kosovo to lead a platoon of Combat Engineers in multinational operations. Later, Tommy attended the Special Forces Qualification Course, graduating 1st in his class. At 10th Special Forces Group, he led an Operational Detachment-Alpha (A-Team) of 12 Green Berets. In two deployments to Iraq in 2004-2006, he conducted a wide range of counterinsurgency operations and was awarded the Combat Infantryman’s Badge and two Bronze Stars. He is Ranger, HALO and Jumpmaster qualified.

Pretty impressive military bio.

A proven leader ready to fight for the 8th District | Tommy Sowers for Congress

 

[geauxtohell]

BTW, there is a big difference in the Bronze Star Medal and Bronze Star Medal with V Device.

One is for valor and the other is for merit.

 

[ConHog]

Here's one from Missouri running as a Democrat:

Tommy spent 11 years active duty and obtained the grade of Major. During the Balkan war, he deployed to Kosovo to lead a platoon of Combat Engineers in multinational operations. Later, Tommy attended the Special Forces Qualification Course, graduating 1st in his class. At 10th Special Forces Group, he led an Operational Detachment-Alpha (A-Team) of 12 Green Berets. In two deployments to Iraq in 2004-2006, he conducted a wide range of counterinsurgency operations and was awarded the Combat Infantryman’s Badge and two Bronze Stars. He is Ranger, HALO and Jumpmaster qualified.

Pretty impressive military bio.

A proven leader ready to fight for the 8th District | Tommy Sowers for Congress

Fucking Ranger Pussy.

 

[traveler52]

Why did the Repugs run a deserter and a draft dodger in 2000?

 

[hortysir]

Why did the Repugs run a deserter and a draft dodger in 2000?

So it wouldn't be a culture shock after Clinton?

 

[bodecea]

How does General Dwight D. Eisenhower a/k/a President Eisenhower grab you? He was a Republican. West Point grad, decorated and had combat experience.

How about General Norman Schwarzkopf? West Point grad, decorated and had combat experience.

and colin powell endorsed president obama; and admiral sestak is a democrat.

i'm gonna go with military folk have the same variances as every other segment of the population for 1,000, alex. (though i'm not sure if they're bronze star winners).

You're not seriously suggesting that we should believe Powell endorsed Obama for any reason other than his skin color are you?

On the other point you are absolutely correct. I don't think anyone with a functioning brain believes winning a bronze star has anything to do with one's political leanings.

Are you saying that Powell endorsed Obama ONLY because of his skin color?

 

[The Rabbi]

and colin powell endorsed president obama; and admiral sestak is a democrat.

i'm gonna go with military folk have the same variances as every other segment of the population for 1,000, alex. (though i'm not sure if they're bronze star winners).

You're not seriously suggesting that we should believe Powell endorsed Obama for any reason other than his skin color are you?

On the other point you are absolutely correct. I don't think anyone with a functioning brain believes winning a bronze star has anything to do with one's political leanings.

Are you saying that Powell endorsed Obama ONLY because of his skin color?

I think that is not an unfair assessment.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Too-confusing, for you, huh?

I'm guessin'.....continually gettin' backed-into-a-corner could do that, to you....and, you certainly do seem to enjoy that!!

​

Ya....OK fuckstain. When you grow up and stop wearing Huggies...come back and let's debate the 5 deferrment Biden's chicken hawk case....shall we?

There's nothin' to debate.

The Republican-elite are (primarily) Chickenhawks! Grab your little-white-flag and exit the corner. You've obviously suffered enough (embarrassment)....as is evidenced by your spastic, lil' fit.

Run, along.....


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OK diaper boy....trundle off and get your Mommie Poko's changed.

 

[rdean]

You forgot John "our troops terrorize civilians" Kerry and John "Our Marines murdered in cold blood!!" Murtha

The rape victim, Abeer Qassim Hamza, was 14 years old. Although an FBI affidavit (based on soldiers' accounts) estimated her age to be 25, Reuters obtained documents that gave her date of birth as August 19, 1991. The other victims have been identified as Fikhriya Taha, the girl's mother; her father Qassim Hamza, and her younger sister, Hadeel Qassim Hamza.

The charges follow a military investigation into the involvement of as many as five soldiers in the rape and murders committed in the town of Mahmoudiya, 30 km south of Baghdad, on March 12.

US soldier arrested for rape and four murders in Iraq - Wikinews, the free news source

That's because Republicans lowered the standards which allowed people like this into the military.

 

[hortysir]

You forgot John "our troops terrorize civilians" Kerry and John "Our Marines murdered in cold blood!!" Murtha

The rape victim, Abeer Qassim Hamza, was 14 years old. Although an FBI affidavit (based on soldiers' accounts) estimated her age to be 25, Reuters obtained documents that gave her date of birth as August 19, 1991. The other victims have been identified as Fikhriya Taha, the girl's mother; her father Qassim Hamza, and her younger sister, Hadeel Qassim Hamza.

The charges follow a military investigation into the involvement of as many as five soldiers in the rape and murders committed in the town of Mahmoudiya, 30 km south of Baghdad, on March 12.

US soldier arrested for rape and four murders in Iraq - Wikinews, the free news source

That's because Republicans lowered the standards which allowed people like this into the military.

Complete and total bullshit.

The Army has always had the easiest criteria for enlistment.
Did the guy have a previous arrest record/criminal history?

 

[Gadawg73]

It tells you that some retired soldiers are Democrats and some are Republicans, it's that simple.

I agree with that.
I am talking about career officers and in a district 70% Republican.
Name a retired decorated career combat West Point grad Colonel running as a Republican.
I M telling you folks. Ask Jim Webb and this guy and the Pentagon of the Iraq mess with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al.
Those folks were not Democrats.

How does General Dwight D. Eisenhower a/k/a President Eisenhower grab you? He was a Republican. West Point grad, decorated and had combat experience.

How about General Norman Schwarzkopf? West Point grad, decorated and had combat experience.

Eisenhower? LOL
That was SIXTY YEARS AGO.
You need something to grab you and wake you up. This is 2010.
And hate to tell you, Ike was a moderate.

 

[del]

And then there was Wesley Clark. He was a sure winner right up until he announced his candidacy.
The US doesn't have much of a tradition of soldiers going into politics. Washington, Grant, Jackson, Eisenhower are all pretty much the exceptions.
The Democrats have specifically recruited monkeys like Webb precisely because they are unusual in supporting Democrats.
Give me Curtis LeMay as a candidate any day.

 

[del]

Here's one from Missouri running as a Democrat:

Tommy spent 11 years active duty and obtained the grade of Major. During the Balkan war, he deployed to Kosovo to lead a platoon of Combat Engineers in multinational operations. Later, Tommy attended the Special Forces Qualification Course, graduating 1st in his class. At 10th Special Forces Group, he led an Operational Detachment-Alpha (A-Team) of 12 Green Berets. In two deployments to Iraq in 2004-2006, he conducted a wide range of counterinsurgency operations and was awarded the Combat Infantryman’s Badge and two Bronze Stars. He is Ranger, HALO and Jumpmaster qualified.

Pretty impressive military bio.

A proven leader ready to fight for the 8th District | Tommy Sowers for Congress

Fucking Ranger Pussy.

if you want to denigrate someone's service, find another place to do it

 

[Gadawg73]

And then there was Wesley Clark. He was a sure winner right up until he announced his candidacy.
The US doesn't have much of a tradition of soldiers going into politics. Washington, Grant, Jackson, Eisenhower are all pretty much the exceptions.
The Democrats have specifically recruited monkeys like Webb precisely because they are unusual in supporting Democrats.
Give me Curtis LeMay as a candidate any day.

LeMay ran with George Wallace for President. I agreed with LeMay on his bombing strategy for Nam and believe his analysis was proven correct after the war. However, his bumbling advice during the Cuban missle crisis was absurd. Great air strategic planner but be glad he never made it in politics.
James Webb is a combat vet in the Nam. I defer to his buddies in the field and they stand with him. Good enough for those that do not defer to their political ideology over their common sense which Webb has plenty of. Ike was a moderate Republican in an era of war happy Democrats.
You need to admit it Rabbi. Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeldwere the laughing stock of the Pentagon and career military up until the first soldier died in Iraq. They despised them after that. Do I need to explain to you why?

 

[geauxtohell]

James Webb is a combat vet in the Nam. I defer to his buddies in the field and they stand with him.

It's the same with Kerry. All the guys on Kerry's boat, with the exception of one, have said he was a good officer and they enjoyed serving under him.

Of course that was all ignored in the need to smear Kerry and his war record. It was a cheap shot, but it was enough to take the scrutiny of of what Bush did to avoid combat service.

At any rate, I've seen the list of veterans who don't support Kerry. To me, the only relevant thing about honorable service is what the guys who served with you say about you. I could care less about what someone who never served with me said about my record (if it was ever an issue). I care a lot about what the guys that served with me think.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Yep, I've noticed that a lot of recent veterans have ran as Democrats, not Republicans.

My feeling though is that the military is made up of a pretty wide range of political views. It might be that if you're a Democrat and a military vet, you just might be more willing to run for office though. That's just a guess though.