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They fail because they become rich and lazy. The socialists take over and pay for people to not work, eventually no one is working and everything collapses.
GREEDY POLITICIANS - sell out the citizens to special interests, gutting their own economy, making others more powerful, giving more and more entitlements they are unable to pay for, needing to borrow more, eventually leading to collapse.
GREEDY POLITICIANS - sell out the citizens to special interests, gutting their own economy, making others more powerful, giving more and more entitlements they are unable to pay for, needing to borrow more, eventually leading to collapse.
Um...politicians are VOTED in.
If they are corrupt etc. etc. it is because the people don't vote or don't take any time to figure out who they are voting for.
You are describing a symptom not a cause.
Why do great Nations fail?
HUBRIS
Either the leaders themselves fall victim to it, or the leaders are operating with a hidden agenda and they use the hubris of the people to create the downfall.
But in both cases it's ultimately hubris that brings down the mighty.
GREEDY POLITICIANS - sell out the citizens to special interests, gutting their own economy, making others more powerful, giving more and more entitlements they are unable to pay for, needing to borrow more, eventually leading to collapse.
Um...politicians are VOTED in.
If they are corrupt etc. etc. it is because the people don't vote or don't take any time to figure out who they are voting for.
You are describing a symptom not a cause.
You are assuming that voters actually have a fair choice. No one knows who they are voting for except for incumbents based on their records. but even records are misleading, "The American Jobs Creation Act" is an example, it actually gives tax breaks to move US jobs overseas.
Voters have no clue what pols will do after elected, except to whore for special interest money.
GREEDY POLITICIANS - sell out the citizens to special interests, gutting their own economy, making others more powerful, giving more and more entitlements they are unable to pay for, needing to borrow more, eventually leading to collapse.
Um...politicians are VOTED in.
If they are corrupt etc. etc. it is because the people don't vote or don't take any time to figure out who they are voting for.
You are describing a symptom not a cause.
Um...politicians are VOTED in.
If they are corrupt etc. etc. it is because the people don't vote or don't take any time to figure out who they are voting for.
You are describing a symptom not a cause.
You are assuming that voters actually have a fair choice. No one knows who they are voting for except for incumbents based on their records. but even records are misleading, "The American Jobs Creation Act" is an example, it actually gives tax breaks to move US jobs overseas.
Voters have no clue what pols will do after elected, except to whore for special interest money.
Exactly my friend...but you are once again describing a symptom.
The problem is complacency and lazy idle people.
People don't know because they falsely believe that things will always be alright.
He also lists 12 environmental problems facing mankind today. The first eight have historically contributed to the collapse of past societies:
Deforestation and habitat destruction
Soil problems (erosion, salinization, and soil fertility losses)
Water management problems
Overhunting
Overfishing
Effects of introduced species on native species
Overpopulation
Increased per-capita impact of people
Further, he says four new factors may contribute to the weakening and collapse of present and future societies:
Anthropogenic climate change
Buildup of toxins in the environment
Energy shortages
Full human utilization of the Earth’s photosynthetic capacity
Diamond also writes about cultural factors, such as the apparent reluctance of the Greenland Norse to eat fish. The root problem in all but one of Diamond's factors leading to collapse is overpopulation relative to the practicable (as opposed to the ideal theoretical) carrying capacity of the environment. The one factor not related to overpopulation is the harmful effect of accidentally or intentionally introducing nonnative species to a region. Diamond also states that "it would be absurd to claim that environmental damage must be a major factor in all collapses: the collapse of the Soviet Union is a modern counter-example, and the destruction of Carthage by Rome in 146 BC is an ancient one. It's obviously true that military or economic factors alone may suffice" (p. 15).