Why cant the AGW contingent make their case??

[Youch]

Why cant the AGW contingent make their case??


Lets face it......for 20 years, the American public has been hearing about the stories of catastrophy due to climate change/global warming and by the way, backed 100% by a media who falls all over themselves to make global warming front and center. Yet all polls on this from Gallup, Pew and Rasmussen clearly show that the public doesn't care about global warming.

Just take a gander at the first page of this forum. Every single thread started by an AGW person gets a few hundred views only and perhaps 100 posts.......a rare 500 post thread may hang on for a few weeks once in a blue moon, but most are dead in a few days!!! ( don't take my word for it......go look )

So the question becomes......whats up with this dynamic? One would think an "ENVIRONMENT" forum would be dominated by folks embracing the AGW view, but in fact, the opposite is true. Skeptics dominate the forum, both in number ( by far ) and also in terms of threads which end up being viewed by THOUSANDS OR TENS OF THOUSANDS!!!!


Discuss.......

Why cant the AGW contingent make their case??

Because the earth is cooling. This, despite all the links to the contrary. The liberal establishment is a tough cookie to crack.

 

[saveliberty]

It is just so obvious the Faithers just don't have science on their side. Us sketpics have a better grasp of how the gases involved work. For example water vapor and methane being more related to temperature chages than CO2. Then you have the wild accusations of the ocean eating the heat or poor models of sea level rises. Inaccurate hurricane predictions based on global warming. It just goes on and on. Know why?

Because the models and predictions are based on manipulated data sets. Further, the governing body squashes dissent, which is very unscientific.

 

[mamooth]

Do you understand how bad your science and logic is? Rest assured that we understand how bad it is. That's why the world is ignoring you. It's not a socialist conspiracy; you're just really bad at this..

You've been snookered by professional con artists, who found you to be easy pickings due to your inability to recognize obvious bullshit. At this point, you have to decide whether to turn on the scammers who bamboozled you, or to rage against me, the messenger. Sadly, I already know which course you'll take.

When various doomsday cults predicted the end of the world and the end didn't come, many true believers got even more devoted to the cult. Deniers are the same way. It's human nature to not want to admit you were fooled badly.

 

[skookerasbil]

Do you understand how bad your science and logic is? Rest assured that we understand how bad it is. That's why the world is ignoring you. It's not a socialist conspiracy; you're just really bad at this..

You've been snookered by professional con artists, who found you to be easy pickings due to your inability to recognize obvious bullshit. At this point, you have to decide whether to turn on the scammers who bamboozled you, or to rage against me, the messenger. Sadly, I already know which course you'll take.

When various doomsday cults predicted the end of the world and the end didn't come, many true believers got even more devoted to the cult. Deniers are the same way. It's human nature to not want to admit you were fooled badly.

s0n.....your post is incoherent.

The world is ignoring the deniers? Really?

The deniers believe in using fossil fuels......so how do you explain this s0n??


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See that little blue sliver in the graph above s0n?


Anybody with half a brain can figure out you're a cultist k00k.


Thank God they don't allow weapons on military bases anymore.

 

[westwall]

Do you understand how bad your science and logic is? Rest assured that we understand how bad it is. That's why the world is ignoring you. It's not a socialist conspiracy; you're just really bad at this..

You've been snookered by professional con artists, who found you to be easy pickings due to your inability to recognize obvious bullshit. At this point, you have to decide whether to turn on the scammers who bamboozled you, or to rage against me, the messenger. Sadly, I already know which course you'll take.

When various doomsday cults predicted the end of the world and the end didn't come, many true believers got even more devoted to the cult. Deniers are the same way. It's human nature to not want to admit you were fooled badly.

Yes, our science is so bad that this is happening all over the world.... It must truly suck to be you. A bunch of "non-scientific" types (who actually understand science a hell of a lot better than you evidently) have kicked your collective "consensus" asses so bad the industry is closing down.

WAY TO GO!

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[skookerasbil]

Do you understand how bad your science and logic is? Rest assured that we understand how bad it is. That's why the world is ignoring you. It's not a socialist conspiracy; you're just really bad at this..

You've been snookered by professional con artists, who found you to be easy pickings due to your inability to recognize obvious bullshit. At this point, you have to decide whether to turn on the scammers who bamboozled you, or to rage against me, the messenger. Sadly, I already know which course you'll take.

When various doomsday cults predicted the end of the world and the end didn't come, many true believers got even more devoted to the cult. Deniers are the same way. It's human nature to not want to admit you were fooled badly.

Yes, our science is so bad that this is happening all over the world.... It must truly suck to be you. A bunch of "non-scientific" types (who actually understand science a hell of a lot better than you evidently) have kicked your collective "consensus" asses so bad the industry is closing down.

WAY TO GO!

Carbon Trading Scheme In Europe Dying? Why Banks In London Are Exiting The Carbon Trade

Carbon Trading Scheme In Europe Dying Why Banks In London Are Exiting The Carbon Trade
Lehman quietly shuts down its carbon-trading desk

Lehman quietly shuts down its carbon-trading desk Grist

West.....he doesn't quite get it. If carbon trading had taken off after 2006 as some expected, we'd be dicked. It hasn't. Its basically died. If the science was mattering......it wouldn't be dead as a doornail. Its not mattering.

Great post!!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It is my belief that Frank and Skooks are emblematic of middleclass workers who have given global warming any scrutiny at all. they dont want to pay a huge cost for a solution that doesnt work for a problem that likely doesnt even exist.

Did you mean "haven't"?

And you'd both be wrong

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[Billy_Bob]

Do you understand how bad your science and logic is? Rest assured that we understand how bad it is. That's why the world is ignoring you. It's not a socialist conspiracy; you're just really bad at this..

You've been snookered by professional con artists, who found you to be easy pickings due to your inability to recognize obvious bullshit. At this point, you have to decide whether to turn on the scammers who bamboozled you, or to rage against me, the messenger. Sadly, I already know which course you'll take.

When various doomsday cults predicted the end of the world and the end didn't come, many true believers got even more devoted to the cult. Deniers are the same way. It's human nature to not want to admit you were fooled badly.

Yes, our science is so bad that this is happening all over the world.... It must truly suck to be you. A bunch of "non-scientific" types (who actually understand science a hell of a lot better than you evidently) have kicked your collective "consensus" asses so bad the industry is closing down.

WAY TO GO!

Carbon Trading Scheme In Europe Dying? Why Banks In London Are Exiting The Carbon Trade

Carbon Trading Scheme In Europe Dying Why Banks In London Are Exiting The Carbon Trade
Lehman quietly shuts down its carbon-trading desk

Lehman quietly shuts down its carbon-trading desk Grist

Australia killed its CCX scam earlier this year.. Closed the carbon market dead... just as they wiped the eco freaks from power and regained some sanity..

 

[Old Rocks]

Why cant the AGW contingent make their case??


Lets face it......for 20 years, the American public has been hearing about the stories of catastrophy due to climate change/global warming and by the way, backed 100% by a media who falls all over themselves to make global warming front and center. Yet all polls on this from Gallup, Pew and Rasmussen clearly show that the public doesn't care about global warming.

Just take a gander at the first page of this forum. Every single thread started by an AGW person gets a few hundred views only and perhaps 100 posts.......a rare 500 post thread may hang on for a few weeks once in a blue moon, but most are dead in a few days!!! ( don't take my word for it......go look )

So the question becomes......whats up with this dynamic? One would think an "ENVIRONMENT" forum would be dominated by folks embracing the AGW view, but in fact, the opposite is true. Skeptics dominate the forum, both in number ( by far ) and also in terms of threads which end up being viewed by THOUSANDS OR TENS OF THOUSANDS!!!!


Discuss.......

Why cant the AGW contingent make their case??

Because the earth is cooling. This, despite all the links to the contrary. The liberal establishment is a tough cookie to crack.

Your proof of which is? Come on now, you made the claim, back it up with evidence.

 

[elektra]

Why cant the AGW contingent make their case??


Lets face it......for 20 years, the American public has been hearing about the stories of catastrophy due to climate change/global warming and by the way, backed 100% by a media who falls all over themselves to make global warming front and center. Yet all polls on this from Gallup, Pew and Rasmussen clearly show that the public doesn't care about global warming.

Just take a gander at the first page of this forum. Every single thread started by an AGW person gets a few hundred views only and perhaps 100 posts.......a rare 500 post thread may hang on for a few weeks once in a blue moon, but most are dead in a few days!!! ( don't take my word for it......go look )

So the question becomes......whats up with this dynamic? One would think an "ENVIRONMENT" forum would be dominated by folks embracing the AGW view, but in fact, the opposite is true. Skeptics dominate the forum, both in number ( by far ) and also in terms of threads which end up being viewed by THOUSANDS OR TENS OF THOUSANDS!!!!


Discuss.......

Why cant the AGW contingent make their case??

Because the earth is cooling. This, despite all the links to the contrary. The liberal establishment is a tough cookie to crack.

Your proof of which is? Come on now, you made the claim, back it up with evidence.

Old Crock the old coward, nice to see you have ignored all those posts you were the fool

 

[Crick]

Crock is a coward because he demands proof for Youch's extraordinary claims? I don't think so. But making such a charge is just the sort of shite I'd expect from you.

Youch, let's see your evidence that the world is getting cooler. Maybe your buddies can help you out. C'mon DENIERS, let's see some evidence that the world is getting COOLER like your good buddy Youch tells us! ! ! You guys gotta stand together or you're gonna fall apart. C'mon everyybody ! LET'S SEE YOUR DATA ! ! ! ! ! !

 

[SSDD]

Crock is a coward because he demands proof for Youch's extraordinary claims? I don't think so. But making such a charge is just the sort of shite I'd expect from you.

Youch, let's see your evidence that the world is getting cooler. Maybe your buddies can help you out. C'mon DENIERS, let's see some evidence that the world is getting COOLER like your good buddy Youch tells us! ! ! You guys gotta stand together or you're gonna fall apart. C'mon everyybody ! LET'S SEE YOUR DATA ! ! ! ! ! !

The most advanced, perfectly placed continental temperature network on earth says that it is getting cooler here....what makes you think that if that network were expanded to cover the entire earth the result wouldn't be the same?

 

[mamooth]

SSDD, your cult has been predicting the imminent new ice age for over a decade now. How many more years of embarrassing abject failure will it take before you admit you were bamboozled by paid professional liars?

Any deniers, give us a number. How many more years of warming before you throw in the towel?

If the data contradicts your hypothesis, you don't respond by twiddling the data like deniers keep doing, you abandon the hypothesis. Deniers need to stop twiddling the data and explain why their theories have failed so consistently and so completely.

 

[skookerasbil]

Still no case........

Still no links.........

Still waiting...........

Still not winning..........




Lets give the AGW k00ks their warming.......lets say its at the high end of the temperature spectrum according to the models........they say its a fact, so lefts give them that!!!!



Where is it mattering in the real world????


Links please.........

 

[jc456]

SSDD, your cult has been predicting the imminent new ice age for over a decade now. How many more years of embarrassing abject failure will it take before you admit you were bamboozled by paid professional liars?

Any deniers, give us a number. How many more years of warming before you throw in the towel?

If the data contradicts your hypothesis, you don't respond by twiddling the data like deniers keep doing, you abandon the hypothesis. Deniers need to stop twiddling the data and explain why their theories have failed so consistently and so completely.

now there is a bunch of horse manure if ever I saw any. I must laugh though at your insane ability to project your side's montage as ours. you are so afraid of what your side stated in the 70's that you try and deflect it away. And yet you're on here promoting AGW. What a loser. You failed your side. More WiNNiNg for us!!!! Thanks for your ad hominem, BTW, where's your evidence that 120 PPM of CO2 does anything to the climate? Oh and weather is not climate. hmmm...what else is there. I'll have to come back to that.

WiNNiNg

 

[skookerasbil]

 

[westwall]

Crock is a coward because he demands proof for Youch's extraordinary claims? I don't think so. But making such a charge is just the sort of shite I'd expect from you.

Youch, let's see your evidence that the world is getting cooler. Maybe your buddies can help you out. C'mon DENIERS, let's see some evidence that the world is getting COOLER like your good buddy Youch tells us! ! ! You guys gotta stand together or you're gonna fall apart. C'mon everyybody ! LET'S SEE YOUR DATA ! ! ! ! ! !

Our data is supported by the collapse of the carbon markets idiot. Investors and bankers aren't going to waste time on morons who can't do a simple experiment.

 

[SSDD]

SSDD, your cult has been predicting the imminent new ice age for over a decade now. How many more years of embarrassing abject failure will it take before you admit you were bamboozled by paid professional liars?

Any deniers, give us a number. How many more years of warming before you throw in the towel?

If the data contradicts your hypothesis, you don't respond by twiddling the data like deniers keep doing, you abandon the hypothesis. Deniers need to stop twiddling the data and explain why their theories have failed so consistently and so completely.

Answer the question hairball....CRN, a triple redundant network so meticulously placed that it requires no "adjustment" says that the US is getting cooler and has been for the past 10 years...10 years, by the way in which the ground stations say no warming to very slight warming....what makes you think that if such a meticulously placed network were expanded to cover the globe, that it wouldn't expose the adjustments worldwide to be as bogus as those being done here....CRN puts the lie to the claims of warmest this or that here in the US, and there is no reason to think that it would't be the same worldwide.

 

[westwall]

Crock is a coward because he demands proof for Youch's extraordinary claims? I don't think so. But making such a charge is just the sort of shite I'd expect from you.

Youch, let's see your evidence that the world is getting cooler. Maybe your buddies can help you out. C'mon DENIERS, let's see some evidence that the world is getting COOLER like your good buddy Youch tells us! ! ! You guys gotta stand together or you're gonna fall apart. C'mon everyybody ! LET'S SEE YOUR DATA ! ! ! ! ! !

The most advanced, perfectly placed continental temperature network on earth says that it is getting cooler here....what makes you think that if that network were expanded to cover the entire earth the result wouldn't be the same?

Well it once was. Now they have dropped 4500 or so weather stations that were rural sited and now exclusively use urban stations. Accuracy has gone out the window in favor of politically motivated falsification of data.

 

[SSDD]

Crock is a coward because he demands proof for Youch's extraordinary claims? I don't think so. But making such a charge is just the sort of shite I'd expect from you.

Youch, let's see your evidence that the world is getting cooler. Maybe your buddies can help you out. C'mon DENIERS, let's see some evidence that the world is getting COOLER like your good buddy Youch tells us! ! ! You guys gotta stand together or you're gonna fall apart. C'mon everyybody ! LET'S SEE YOUR DATA ! ! ! ! ! !

The most advanced, perfectly placed continental temperature network on earth says that it is getting cooler here....what makes you think that if that network were expanded to cover the entire earth the result wouldn't be the same?

Well it once was. Now they have dropped 4500 or so weather stations that were rural sited and now exclusively use urban stations. Accuracy has gone out the window in favor of politically motivated falsification of data.

I'm talking about CRN....it is triple redundant and so meticulously placed that no "adjustment" is necessary....it says that the US has been cooling for the entire time it has been online...the same time GISS et all say that it has either been not warming or warming slightly....when the most advanced network ever put into use says that the old system and what it is saying is wrong, you listen...unless you are a warmer and that advanced network isn't saying what you want it to say.