Why Benghazi Matters

[daveman]

Will Right Wingers Care About Ben Ghazzi On November 7th?


Huma Abedin

Will left wingers care about Tyrone Powers and Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry on November 7th?

Probably not. They haven't cared about them yet.

Hail Obama!

 

[editec]

Now how many times were embassies and personnel attacked while Bush II was in offivce, again?

60 times or so wasn't it?

 

[Neotrotsky]

How many Ambassadors were murdered ?

Oh, last time was under Carter

which is probably why the Papa Obama Administration
is trying to cover up for this story

 

[BluePhantom]

Now how many times were embassies and personnel attacked while Bush II was in offivce, again?

60 times or so wasn't it?

sigh.....it's not that we were attacked that is the problem. It's that Obama was warned multiple times and failed to prepare. It's that when the attack came he showed incompetence in dealing wth it and then directed his administration to lie their asses off to cover it up.

BTW...in case you haven't noticed Bush is not running for office.

 

[candycorn]

It should be in the rubber room with all of the other useless threads. Nobody outside of Conservistan cares about this topic.

 

[daveman]

It should be in the rubber room with all of the other useless threads. Nobody outside of Conservistan cares about this topic.

Certainly Obamabots and bootlickers don't give a damn that Obama's incompetence cost 4 Americans their lives.

Hail Obama!

 

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allowed Americans to die.

On the issue of a military response, the Obama administration got an unusual boost Friday by former George W. Bush administration Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, who wrote in a blog post that "the US did almost everything possible to protect our people once the attacks had started, though not in advance. … Decision makers in Washington appear to have been leaning forward, as they should have been. The military's most capable rescue force, based on the East Coast, was deployed immediately (something that is very rarely done), but — given the distances involved — arrived at Sigonella only after the crisis was over." Sigonella is the site of a U.S. military installation in Sicily.

 

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account of CIA actions, for example, shows that the agency's security officers did not appear to have the heavy weapons they needed to repel the attack, and it shows how deeply the U.S. was relying on Libyan security forces that melted away. Congress and a State Department accountability review board are investigating why the security was so inadequate, both for the ambassador and for a major CIA intelligence operation as Benghazi was growing more dangerous.

 

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In fact, CIA security officers responded to the attack on the State Department compound within 25 minutes, U.S. officials said, though it took them 50 minutes to arrive. CIA officers did not have laser targeting equipment, they said.

And Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta "ordered all appropriate forces to respond to the unfolding events in Benghazi, but the attack was over before those forces could be employed," said Little, the Pentagon spokesman.

"There were no orders to anybody to stand down in providing support," a senior intelligence official said.

Armed drones were not nearby. Even if they had been, it's not clear that they would have done any good, officials say.

"People think 'armed drones' are some sort of magical robot wizards that can materialize out of thin air and identify a terrorist through facial recognition software from 20,000 feet," a senior congressional official said. "It doesn't work like that."

 

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In his post on the Web site of the American Enterprise Institute, the neo-conservative equivalent of the Vatican, Wolfowitz said that after “talking with someone who has spoken directly with key general officers and others involved in the U.S. response to the Benghazi attacks,” he concluded...

– Contrary to claims on numerous conservative Web sites: “There was no AC-130 gunship in the region.”

(Defense Department spokesman George Little told Bloomberg the same thing yesterday in an e-mail.)

– Shooting down another conservative attack line: “The only drone available in Libya was an unarmed surveillance drone which was quickly moved from Darna to Benghazi, but the field of view of these drones is limited and, in any case, this one was not armed.”

– In yet another counterattack on Benghazi conspiracy theorists: “The only other assets immediately available were F-16 fighter jets based at Aviano, Italy. These aircraft might have reached Benghazi while the fight at the Annex was still going on, but they would have had difficulty pinpointing hostile mortar positions or distinguishing between friendly and hostile militias in the midst of a confused firefight in a densely populated residential area where there would have been a high likelihood of civilian casualties. While two more Americans were tragically killed by a mortar strike on the Annex, it’s not clear that deploying F-16’s would have prevented that.”

“If all of this is true,” Wolfowitz concludes, “then it would appear that the U.S. national security team was doing everything they thought possible to protect the Americans in Benghazi.”

Obama’s New Libyan Defense Chief: Bush’s Paul Wolfowitz, on Benghazi

 

[Neotrotsky]

It should be in the rubber room with all of the other useless threads. Nobody outside of Conservistan cares about this topic.

Right
does that include their families

 

[candycorn]

It should be in the rubber room with all of the other useless threads. Nobody outside of Conservistan cares about this topic.

Right
does that include their families

As a message board topic it's 2 months old. Nobody cares. Sorry.

 

[Neotrotsky]

Whatever helps you to sleep at night

 

[Cheddarmelon]

Whatever helps you to sleep at night

Like parroting debunked nonsense over and over and over again?

 

[Neotrotsky]

Debunked, hardly
Downplayed by the Left and the MSM, sure

Granted, the impact on the family of these poor individuals on the Papa Obama
campaign is of little concern to them. No their concern is more noble, a fear of how it impacts them.....

After all, Papa Obama has an election to lose,,,er win
We must go Forward

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8TjbbpVLh4]Forward- The Obama Way - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Synthaholic]

 

[Neotrotsky]

Does support include
helping him with his cover-up?

 

[g5000]

No matter how many sources are linked to, the liberals will not believe that Obama knew anything about anything. They believe other people are running things without Obama's input or knowledge. Well, that is if whatever happens is bad. If it's good, then Obama was totally engaged from the start.

So are you saying you have an independent source to back up what the OP is claiming?

You are missing the point. The point is one of logic. If someone was painting the target it means there was something there with the ability to fire. You don't paint the target until you are ready to fire because the laser is easily detected by the enemy and you will give up your position. In fact because the laser is tied into the firing system of the firing aircraft I don't even think you can paint the target without the aircraft being there (although i could be wrong on that).

Now you could argue that the reports that he was painting the target were false, but if those reports are true then there had to be something there with the ability to deliver ordinance.

This is complete and total bullshit. A laser designator is completely invisible and can only be detected by the proper sensing equipment.

I wish you assholes would stop making shit up!

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[g5000]

Now Obama is trying to say that he gave orders to Marines to protect themselves. BULLSHIT!!! This makes no sense considering General Ham was removed from his duties for ignoring orders to stand down.

The Marine who painted the target, clearly in anticipation of the drone striking the target, was killed and it's likely because he gave his position away when he pointed out the target with the laser.

So, we had people there on the ground and in the air and they were ready to go, but they were ordered to stand down.

It does no good for people to try and bring up Bush or Clinton ignoring intel for 9/11. This is about Obama knowing what was happening and not acting.

You, too. Stop making shit up. IF, and I say IF, a Marine was using a laser designator, it was not visible to the mortar team.

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[Cheddarmelon]

Now Obama is trying to say that he gave orders to Marines to protect themselves. BULLSHIT!!! This makes no sense considering General Ham was removed from his duties for ignoring orders to stand down.

The Marine who painted the target, clearly in anticipation of the drone striking the target, was killed and it's likely because he gave his position away when he pointed out the target with the laser.

So, we had people there on the ground and in the air and they were ready to go, but they were ordered to stand down.

It does no good for people to try and bring up Bush or Clinton ignoring intel for 9/11. This is about Obama knowing what was happening and not acting.

You, too. Stop making shit up. IF, and I say IF, a Marine was using a laser designator, it was not visible to the mortar team.

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Additionally, accurate reports indicate that there was NO armed drone in the area.