Why aren't theists considered mentally ill?

[Delta4Embassy]

Specificly, suffering from delusional disorder? Reading up on it for another thread, the description sounded awfully familar.

"Delusional disorder, previously called paranoid disorder, is a type of serious mental illness called a "psychosis" in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined. The main feature of this disorder is the presence of delusions, which are unshakable beliefs in something untrue. People with delusional disorder experience non-bizarre delusions, which involve situations that could occur in real life, such as being followed, poisoned, deceived, conspired against, or loved from a distance. These delusions usually involve the misinterpretation of perceptions or experiences. In reality, however, the situations are either not true at all or highly exaggerated.

People with delusional disorder often can continue to socialize and function normally, apart from the subject of their delusion, and generally do not behave in an obviously odd or bizarre manner. This is unlike people with other psychotic disorders, who also might have delusions as a symptom of their disorder. In some cases, however, people with delusional disorder might become so preoccupied with their delusions that their lives are disrupted."

 

[Delta4Embassy]

"People with delusional disorder experience non-bizarre delusions, which involve situations that could occur in real life, such as being followed, poisoned, deceived, conspired against, or loved from a distance. These delusions usually involve the misinterpretation of perceptions or experiences. In reality, however, the situations are either not true at all or highly exaggerated."

"...being followed..." God sees everything you do no matter where you are.

"...deceived..." Sounds like Satan, God's evil opposite.

"...conspired against..." Believing Satan is actively tempting you to make you go to hell.

"...loved from a distance..." God loves you.

"misinterpretation of perceptions or experiences." Visions = dreams. Voices in your head you think are God or demons are your own inner monologue or an acute mental illness. Miracles = random chance and coincidence.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

So asserting belief in God doesn't make you mentally ill, but asserting a similar belief in being an alien contactee would? If God created the Earth He obviously isn't from the Earth and is also an alien yes? So aren't all religions just UFO cults?

 

[Agit8r]

In Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four, did Winston ever really love Big Brother, or believe that 2 + 2 equaled 5?

 

[AVG-JOE]

Specificly, suffering from delusional disorder? Reading up on it for another thread, the description sounded awfully familar.

"Delusional disorder, previously called paranoid disorder, is a type of serious mental illness called a "psychosis" in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined. The main feature of this disorder is the presence of delusions, which are unshakable beliefs in something untrue. People with delusional disorder experience non-bizarre delusions, which involve situations that could occur in real life, such as being followed, poisoned, deceived, conspired against, or loved from a distance. These delusions usually involve the misinterpretation of perceptions or experiences. In reality, however, the situations are either not true at all or highly exaggerated.

People with delusional disorder often can continue to socialize and function normally, apart from the subject of their delusion, and generally do not behave in an obviously odd or bizarre manner. This is unlike people with other psychotic disorders, who also might have delusions as a symptom of their disorder. In some cases, however, people with delusional disorder might become so preoccupied with their delusions that their lives are disrupted."

Perhaps delusional disorders should be ignored unless and until BEHAVIOR warrants state intervention.


EVERYbody has the same right to be wrong. The ancient stories of creation by the God of Abraham can no more be disproved than can the theories of evolution or any other creation stories Monkeys believe in.

If Christians, Muslims and Jews are deluded, the same can be said for believers in Evolution and The Flying Spaghetti Monster.


Perhaps delusional disorders should be ignored unless and until BEHAVIOR warrants state intervention.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Thanks for the title tweak. Am I just not seeing the place to do that having scripts disabled or is there just not an option to do that right now?

 

[AVG-JOE]

So asserting belief in God doesn't make you mentally ill, but asserting a similar belief in being an alien contactee would? If God created the Earth He obviously isn't from the Earth and is also an alien yes? So aren't all religions just UFO cults?

Does it matter?

The sooner we all relax about the unanswerable questions of Creation and Death, the sooner we can begin to work together to drive this fucker back to the stars.

Just 'cause Monkeys can't prove how life began or learn the truth about what lay beyond death's door doesn't mean we can't make the most of the gift of life.

Let sleeping dogs and deluded Monkeys lay....

 

[BillyP]

Convinced real invisible superbeings in another dimension that will punish you if you don't follow a book rule us is for sure the thinking of a diseased mind. Mentally deficient and reality challenged.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Thanks for the title tweak. Am I just not seeing the place to do that having scripts disabled or is there just not an option to do that right now?

It's something only staff can do.

Title changes must be done in Moderation

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Does it matter?

The sooner we all relax about the unanswerable questions of Creation and Death, the sooner we can begin to work together to drive this fucker back to the stars.

Just 'cause Monkeys can't prove how life began or learn the truth about what lay beyond death's door doesn't mean we can't make the most of the gift of life.

Let sleeping dogs and deluded Monkeys lay....

Trouble with the let sleeping dogs lie approach is when we do that delusional people post threads about who they think is in hell. And since some people might actually believe that, the emotional harm and grief that kind of thing can cause should be refuted strenuously.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

It's something only staff can do.

Title changes must be done in Moderation

Silly rule. But I'll chew it over in my head a moment and see if I can figure out the sense of it.

(hums Final Jeopardy theme)

...Ok, ya I can see the sense of it. Could be used as an exploit of sorts cloning titles or otherwise using it in ways other than as intended.

 

[guno]

Does it matter?

The sooner we all relax about the unanswerable questions of Creation and Death, the sooner we can begin to work together to drive this fucker back to the stars.

Just 'cause Monkeys can't prove how life began or learn the truth about what lay beyond death's door doesn't mean we can't make the most of the gift of life.

Let sleeping dogs and deluded Monkeys lay....

Trouble with the let sleeping dogs lie approach is when we do that delusional people post threads about who they think is in hell. And since some people might actually believe that, the emotional harm and grief that kind of thing can cause should be refuted strenuously.

 

[Capstone]

...Perhaps delusional disorders should be ignored unless and until BEHAVIOR warrants state intervention.

You mean like mutilating male babies' genitals and then sucking the blood from the incisions?

That question isn't intended disrespectfully.

How do we determine which sacred religious traditions should be considered the sort of behavior that "warrants state intervention"?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Specificly, suffering from delusional disorder? Reading up on it for another thread, the description sounded awfully familar.

"Delusional disorder, previously called paranoid disorder, is a type of serious mental illness called a "psychosis" in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined. The main feature of this disorder is the presence of delusions, which are unshakable beliefs in something untrue. People with delusional disorder experience non-bizarre delusions, which involve situations that could occur in real life, such as being followed, poisoned, deceived, conspired against, or loved from a distance. These delusions usually involve the misinterpretation of perceptions or experiences. In reality, however, the situations are either not true at all or highly exaggerated.

People with delusional disorder often can continue to socialize and function normally, apart from the subject of their delusion, and generally do not behave in an obviously odd or bizarre manner. This is unlike people with other psychotic disorders, who also might have delusions as a symptom of their disorder. In some cases, however, people with delusional disorder might become so preoccupied with their delusions that their lives are disrupted."

There's a difference between believing in a god and hearing that god 'talk' to you, where the latter is mental illness.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Just because religious beliefs are longstanding ones shared by many doesn't make them sacrosanct any more than "the world is flat" once did.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

There's a difference between believing in a god and hearing that god 'talk' to you, where the latter is mental illness.

Ever watched 700 Club? I rest my case.

 

[Bfgrn]

Specificly, suffering from delusional disorder? Reading up on it for another thread, the description sounded awfully familar.

"Delusional disorder, previously called paranoid disorder, is a type of serious mental illness called a "psychosis" in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined. The main feature of this disorder is the presence of delusions, which are unshakable beliefs in something untrue. People with delusional disorder experience non-bizarre delusions, which involve situations that could occur in real life, such as being followed, poisoned, deceived, conspired against, or loved from a distance. These delusions usually involve the misinterpretation of perceptions or experiences. In reality, however, the situations are either not true at all or highly exaggerated.

People with delusional disorder often can continue to socialize and function normally, apart from the subject of their delusion, and generally do not behave in an obviously odd or bizarre manner. This is unlike people with other psychotic disorders, who also might have delusions as a symptom of their disorder. In some cases, however, people with delusional disorder might become so preoccupied with their delusions that their lives are disrupted."

Why aren't plagiarists considered mentally ill?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Why aren't plagiarists considered mentally ill?

See those little wiggly things in the beginning and end? Those are quotation marks. Means I'm quoting whatever's in the middle of them. Thus it's not plagiarism because I"m not pretending it's my definition. Didn't post the link (was WebMD) because as a definition you could get it anywhere.

 

[Capstone]

Just because religious beliefs are longstanding ones shared by many doesn't make them sacrosanct...

Succession is crucial where the continuity of religious practices are concerned, so the "longstanding ones" in particular are commonly held as sacrosanct by the practitioners.

If you don't believe me, try telling your friendly neighborhood rabbi that he's no longer legally allowed to circumcise infants.

 

[guno]

Specificly, suffering from delusional disorder? Reading up on it for another thread, the description sounded awfully familar.

"Delusional disorder, previously called paranoid disorder, is a type of serious mental illness called a "psychosis" in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined. The main feature of this disorder is the presence of delusions, which are unshakable beliefs in something untrue. People with delusional disorder experience non-bizarre delusions, which involve situations that could occur in real life, such as being followed, poisoned, deceived, conspired against, or loved from a distance. These delusions usually involve the misinterpretation of perceptions or experiences. In reality, however, the situations are either not true at all or highly exaggerated.

People with delusional disorder often can continue to socialize and function normally, apart from the subject of their delusion, and generally do not behave in an obviously odd or bizarre manner. This is unlike people with other psychotic disorders, who also might have delusions as a symptom of their disorder. In some cases, however, people with delusional disorder might become so preoccupied with their delusions that their lives are disrupted."