Why are some people so afraid of God??

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by nycflasher
Yep, only socialists and anti-Americans value civil liberties.

Clearly, neocons don't...

I value the free speech of everyone. even christians.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

In as much as family/traditional values teach personal responsibility, commitment, self-reliance and faith in god, they are anathema to the liberal agenda. For the libs to empower themselves through government, they need weak citizens, who can't take care of themselves. Responsible, successful people don't need government to the extent libs wish to push it down our throats. Therefore, libs try to do away with anything that makes people succesful without government help, like moral, and values.

 

[ajwps]

How does your own bible compare to other faiths?

There seems to be a correlation between all

pentecostal/Charismatic churches today

AND the following religoins

The Serpent Power of the Awakening Kundalini
Sathya Sai gurus
Subud worship manifestations
Qigong healing manifestations
Shakers manifestations
African Kung Bushmen of the Kalahair
Stage Hypnotists

We can’t tell the difference... can you?

Charismatic Preachers

AND

Kundalini Yoga Gurus

http://www.bible.ca/tongues-kundalini-shakers-charismastics.htm



http://www.bible.ca/tongues-kundalini-shakers-charismastics.htm#document

 

[Hobbit]

There seems to be a correlation between all

pentecostal/Charismatic churches today

AND the following religoins

The Serpent Power of the Awakening Kundalini
Sathya Sai gurus
Subud worship manifestations
Qigong healing manifestations
Shakers manifestations
African Kung Bushmen of the Kalahair
Stage Hypnotists

We can’t tell the difference... can you?

Charismatic Preachers

AND

Kundalini Yoga Gurus

Clearly, these guys haven't done their homework that well. Half the stuff they claim to pentecostal churches are only done by the crazies. Some of the other stuff is stuff that people fake, and the preachers know they fake, but they can't come out and say it without losing a large portion of their congregation. If you want to cite religious crazies to discredit other religions, let me show you a couple of places that make that site look halfway sane.

http://www.chick.com

http://www.balaams-ass.com

Comparing a Christian denomination to African tribal religions is pretty offensive. Don't do it again.

 

[Bullypulpit]

Originally posted by DKSuddeth
God smites people, that alone should make people fear him. :

Nah...When God wants a killin' done, he sends an angel... :

 

[Avatar4321]

Simply put:

If God exist and if He has laws and judges men according to their actions then men have to take responsibility for themselves. Those who dont want to feel guilty for not living up to the standards God has set will try not to ease their guilt by not believing.

 

[ajwps]

Originally posted by Avatar4321

Simply put:

If God exist and if He has laws and judges men according to their actions then men have to take responsibility for themselves.

Okay...

Those who dont want to feel guilty for not living up to the standards God has set will try not to ease their guilt by not believing.

What are you trying to get across in this very confusing line?

 

[Bullypulpit]

Originally posted by ajwps
Simply put:

If God exist and if He has laws and judges men according to their actions then men have to take responsibility for themselves.

Okay...

Those who dont want to feel guilty for not living up to the standards God has set will try not to ease their guilt by not believing.

What are you trying to get across in this very confusing line?

He's trying to say that anyone who doesn't believe in God is morally inferior. Which is a load of utter and absolute BS.

 

[Bullypulpit]

That shut him up...

 

[ajwps]

Originally posted by Bullypulpit

He's trying to say that anyone who doesn't believe in God is morally inferior. Which is a load of utter and absolute BS.

After trying my best to analyze this Bullypulpit sentence; I fiind that your interpretation may not be quite accurate.

Let me try to comprehend his meaning.



Sentence interpretation:

Those who dont want to feel guilty for not living up to the standards God has set -

1) For those people who believe it necessary to follow G-d commandments as written, are for some obscure reason unable to adhere to these rules because of some human flaw or inability as understood by Christians in the fact that 'mankind is incapable of keeping or following those commandments.'

and

will try not to ease their guilt by not believing.

2) somehow will not attempt or need to erase their guilt in their sin by not believing in or on Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

In other words it is impossible to be free of sin (original or acquired) and seek salvation without having faith in Jesus.

Ureka.... The mystery is cleared up....

 

[dilloduck]

Originally posted by ajwps
He's trying to say that anyone who doesn't believe in God is morally inferior. Which is a load of utter and absolute BS.

After trying my best to analyze this Bullypulpit sentence; I fiind that your interpretation may not be quite accurate.

Let me try to comprehend his meaning.



Sentence interpretation:

Those who dont want to feel guilty for not living up to the standards God has set -

1) For those people who believe it necessary to follow G-d commandments as written, are for some obscure reason unable to adhere to these rules because of some human flaw or inability as understood by Christians in the fact that 'mankind is incapable of keeping or following those commandments.'

and

will try not to ease their guilt by not believing.

2) somehow will not attempt or need to erase their guilt in their sin by not believing in or on Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

In other words it is impossible to be free of sin (original or acquired) and seek salvation without having faith in Jesus.

Ureka.... The mystery is cleared up....

Eureka ! WTF are you talking about?

 

[ajwps]

Originally posted by dilloduck

Eureka ! WTF are you talking about?

Don't worry your pretty little head about it Dillduck. This discussion is way over your abilty to understand. Stick with simple concepts that you are able to follow without having everything explained to you in E A S Y F I R S T G R A D E B O O K L E A R N E R S.

 

[Bullypulpit]

Originally posted by ajwps
Eureka ! WTF are you talking about?

Don't worry your pretty little head about it Dillduck. This discussion is way over your abilty to understand. Stick with simple concepts that you are able to follow without having everything explained to you in E A S Y F I R S T G R A D E B O O K L E A R N E R S.

Dilloduck is quite correct my little meshuginah. Your answer is nothing but a mish-mash of material memorized, but not comprehended.

 

[ajwps]

Originally posted by Bullypulpit

Dilloduck is quite correct my little meshuginah. Your answer is nothing but a mish-mash of material memorized, but not comprehended.

My little Registered Nurse from the big city of Columbus Ohio, your original divination of Avator4321's almost incomprehensible statement is to say the least based on your religious beliefs.

Avator said:

Those who dont want to feel guilty for not living up to the standards God has set will try not to ease their guilt by not believing.

While you interpreted his sentence to mean: "He's trying to say that anyone who doesn't believe in God is morally inferior. Which is a load of utter and absolute BS."

I tend to agree with you. Your attempt to understand and interpret this sentence is nothing but a load of H2S (flatus for the uninitiated). Simply put, he is trying to say that those don't follow G-d's edicts and not feel guilty for same, will not attempt to ease their guilt by not believing in G-d.

My advice is to stick to nursing and just follow the doctor's orders.

 

[Bullypulpit]

Originally posted by ajwps
My little Registered Nurse from the big city of Columbus Ohio, your original divination of Avator4321's almost incomprehensible statement is to say the least based on your religious beliefs.

Avator said:



While you interpreted his sentence to mean: "He's trying to say that anyone who doesn't believe in God is morally inferior. Which is a load of utter and absolute BS."

I tend to agree with you. Your attempt to understand and interpret this sentence is nothing but a load of H2S (flatus for the uninitiated). Simply put, he is trying to say that those don't follow G-d's edicts and not feel guilty for same, will not attempt to ease their guilt by not believing in G-d.


My advice is to stick to nursing and just follow the doctor's orders.

"...those don't follow G-d's edicts and not feel guilty for same, will not attempt to ease their guilt by not believing in G-d"


He's trying to say that anyone who doesn't believe in God is morally inferior. (Same thing)

As for the concept of "original" sin, that was merely a device devised by the early church to maintain it's strangle-hold on society. The sin of Adam and Eve is was their failure to obey a capricious god. And their sin...? To eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil is the "original" sin. This begs the question of, "Why is the posession of such knowledge sinful?"

 

[ajwps]

Originally posted by Bullypulpit

As for the concept of "original" sin, that was merely a device devised by the early church to maintain it's strangle-hold on society. The sin of Adam and Eve is was their failure to obey a capricious god. And their sin...? To eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil is the "original" sin. This begs the question of, "Why is the posession of such knowledge sinful?" [/B]

I believe that the concept of eating a piece of forbidden fruit and thereby disobeying a divine commandment was neither capricious nor arbritary.

Many parts of the Bible are not to be taken literally but are really in allegorical or metaphorical form to give mankind a very important lesson of living this life.

Simply put, it is a life long fight to control our impulses and baser desires as the desired route in this short veil of tears we call our existence on this planet. A G-d who says that shalt not do certain things comes with consequences for disobeying His commandments of Life.....

In my opinion, there is no inhereted original sin as any Creator worth His salt would not make flawed beings in the form of innocent babies.

 

[5stringJeff]

Originally posted by ajwps
Simply put, it is a life long fight to control our impulses and baser desires as the desired route in this short veil of tears we call our existence on this planet. A G-d who says that shalt not do certain things comes with consequences for disobeying His commandments of Life.....

Wait a minute. I thought you had said in a previous thread that you believed everyone was going to heaven. Or was I mistaken?

 

[phadras]

Communists hate all religions.. Ergo the aclu hates religion... Really very simple..

 

[ajwps]

Originally posted by gop_jeff

Wait a minute. I thought you had said in a previous thread that you believed everyone was going to heaven. Or was I mistaken?

No you were mistaken. I said that Jewish people do not believe that anyone is 'going to heaven' nor 'hell'

The concept that humans are 'saved' to live in a human or similar earth like form in some mansions in the sky is something very foreign to Jewish thought. As it was to Jesus himself in his day.

Judaism believes that the essence of the soul (whatever that is) which continues on but more like right here in this timeless plane or dimension. The difference is that the soul is either closer to something like the light eminating from the Creator or suffers by being not close to that light of He who created all things.

There is no favoritism or required belief in Him but only that the life on earth you are given is somehow or someway measured according to your actions and deeds while here.

This premise was foreign to Paul of Tarsus who says that as long as you believe in Jesus you are saved to live with him in his mansions in the sky.

Beside the fact that what happens to whatever we exists as is totally in His control and there is no particular faith that can put anyone in the front of the line.

But again, this what I have told you is based on what is gleaned from the mind of man as no one knows anything for certain. The Old Testament does not talk about these things but only in metaphors of 'going into the grave' or 'returning to your family' which we cannot imagine in any way.

 

[ajwps]

Originally posted by phadras
Communists hate all religions.. Ergo the aclu hates religion... Really very simple..

Interesting that you should mention all 'Communists' hate religion. It seems that after the fall of Russian Communism, a great deal of the masses returned to their churches.

It was the leaders of Communism that tried to destroy faith and beliefs in religion. The State does not drive beliefs out of the people.

So all Communists are not atheists.