Whom to Spend On: Geniuses or Retards?

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    Across the nation, we spend billions on retards through "special education".

    We barely put a dime on the really smart, or "gifted" students.

    Is this is a good policy?

    Have we got to a point where we fetishize and worship the lesser, while denigrating the better? A dictatorship of the lowest common denominator?
     
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    I wasn't going to chime in because you've framed this as a domestic issue in the US.

    Then I had a beer and thought, "fuck it".

    So here I am.

    Is this is a good policy?

    It depends on what you're trying to achieve in society. So, how do you see it WJ?
    And why?
     
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    Was it 1 of those big Foster's beers? :)

    C'mon D, why play coy? You know what WJ's stance is, why not go for it and answer with what you believe in?

    As for me, I see where WJ is coming from. I don't want retarded people to have a substandard quality of life, but shouldn't we be spending at least as much on the gifted as the retarded?

    I've noticed quite a few retarded people out in the work force lately and it's kinda puzzling to me. In the instances I've observed they don't do as good a job as non-retarded people would have (and in 1 case I sent my food back because I witnessed it being improperly handled) and there are plenty of non-retarded people that could probably really use those jobs.

    I'm not saying march them off to the ovens and I don't think WJ is either. I think there's an important point here about getting the best return on our investment.
     
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    I had the one on the left. Gotta pee now, back shortly.
     
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    wow! So because non retarded as you like to say people need a job some who is "retarded" shouldn't be able to be a productive member of society?
    And I am sure there is a real problem in the US with DD people taking so many jobs from normal functioning adults.:lol:
    And as for the best return out of an investment, I have a feeling that a parent seeing their DD child working is just as rewarding as seeing their non DD child graduating from a private college. Maybe you shouldn't think so black and white on the subject.
     
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    Sorry that took ten minutes. Now, where was I?

    Do gifted students who can't afford to go to university gets scholarships? Who pays for them? In the US do you offer higher degrees by research at no cost to the candidate? That would be good if you did. That helps the gifted.
     
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    that is socialism don't ya know?
     
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    I've been enjoying Dragon Joose lately. It's like malt liquor and an energy drink that tastes like grape soda. Mmmmm. I don't know why someone didn't think of this sooner. :)

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    Yep! I paid for my Master's by coursework (cost me about $2500 for two years part time) and if my application in to the PhD programme is approved by the university it won't cost me a cent (PhD here is by thesis only) Socialism? Yes please :D
     
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    There's that conclusion jumping again. You're really good at that.

    Again, not what I said. I didn't say it was a "real problem" I gave my observation.

    ROI isn't calculated off how warm and fuzzy something makes you feel... well, not in the real world anyway.

    Maybe you shouldn't try to put words in my mouth. Oh wait, if you did that you'd never have a chance to be snarky to me. That the only way you can make a point is to make up some nonsense and call it my position is really telling of how weak your position actually is.
     

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