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Drop the law degrees, we have too many lawyers already. And increase the medical degrees.
this would work as well
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Drop the law degrees, we have too many lawyers already. And increase the medical degrees.
Chuck out liberal arts? What, like history? Employers need people with high level critical thinking and other cognitive skills, heck the biggest mining company in the world was hiring history graduates a few years ago and using their analytical skills to help their business.
what a stupid decision, hire history majors instead of math/sci/engineering majors whose whole degree exists on analytical processing of how everythign in the universe works.
and you say history majros have better critical thinking skills than those doing engineering and math
Chuck out liberal arts? What, like history? Employers need people with high level critical thinking and other cognitive skills, heck the biggest mining company in the world was hiring history graduates a few years ago and using their analytical skills to help their business.
Exactemundo ... plus, who really needs to know why politicians decide they way they do (PolSci) or why have certain armed conflicts gone for as long as they have (History/Int'l Affairs) or how to solve such conflicts (Int'l Affairs/Conflict Resolution). Such things are just so dang useless! We can see it in the world we live in today after all!
Only a douche would propose to throw out the liberal arts.
Chuck out liberal arts? What, like history? Employers need people with high level critical thinking and other cognitive skills, heck the biggest mining company in the world was hiring history graduates a few years ago and using their analytical skills to help their business.
what a stupid decision, hire history majors instead of math/sci/engineering majors whose whole degree exists on analytical processing of how everythign in the universe works.
and you say history majros have better critical thinking skills than those doing engineering and math
Chuck out liberal arts? What, like history? Employers need people with high level critical thinking and other cognitive skills, heck the biggest mining company in the world was hiring history graduates a few years ago and using their analytical skills to help their business.
what a stupid decision, hire history majors instead of math/sci/engineering majors whose whole degree exists on analytical processing of how everythign in the universe works.
and you say history majros have better critical thinking skills than those doing engineering and math
Math people have great difficulty thinking outside the box.
And no sense of humor at all, the only ones with less of a sense of humor are economists.
Which is math related.
Chuck out liberal arts? What, like history? Employers need people with high level critical thinking and other cognitive skills, heck the biggest mining company in the world was hiring history graduates a few years ago and using their analytical skills to help their business.
what a stupid decision, hire history majors instead of math/sci/engineering majors whose whole degree exists on analytical processing of how everythign in the universe works.
and you say history majros have better critical thinking skills than those doing engineering and math
Yeah, they often do. Math and science are linear. You have a set problem and are looking for a set solution. That's good in a lot of cases, but don't do much in dynamic situations.
what a stupid decision, hire history majors instead of math/sci/engineering majors whose whole degree exists on analytical processing of how everythign in the universe works.
and you say history majros have better critical thinking skills than those doing engineering and math
Yeah, they often do. Math and science are linear. You have a set problem and are looking for a set solution. That's good in a lot of cases, but don't do much in dynamic situations.
have you ever solved a proof?
Once you move beyond freshman-level coursework, higher mathematics requires intensely abstract thinking in unorthodox manners.Math people have great difficulty thinking outside the box.
Once you move beyond freshman-level coursework, higher mathematics requires intensely abstract thinking in unorthodox manners.Math people have great difficulty thinking outside the box.
Are you seriously suggesting that someone who can imagine a figure moving in five dimensions is uncreative?
Once you move beyond freshman-level coursework, higher mathematics requires intensely abstract thinking in unorthodox manners.Math people have great difficulty thinking outside the box.
Are you seriously suggesting that someone who can imagine a figure moving in five dimensions is uncreative?
I have nothing against Liberal Arts programs but they have to do a better job of teaching job skills to make graduates immediately employable
I have nothing against Liberal Arts programs but they have to do a better job of teaching job skills to make graduates immediately employable
employable by whom? the gubbmint?
No need to force students into anything. There are already far more pre-meds, than there are spots at medical schools. Create more slots, and we will have more doctors.OPEN a few more medical schools, and force a high percent of students to study family medicine.
Again, no need to force these institutions into any of these actions. The current system exists because of perverse government incentives.Force the institutions to provide students with reliable DOL data about the future of any occupation they are allegedly studying to enter. If we need fewer teachers K-12 (which we do, regardless of the economy, because population is growing more slowly) then CLOSE some education departments, raise the entrance standards at those that remain, and force institutions to find ways to retool higher education paths, so that other students are shunted into new career paths that really exist.
American Universities provide every resource necessary for students to launch their careers. The fact is, most American 18-year-olds are simply too immature to utilize all that is available, and so fall into useless majors. Nobody is forcing you to take basket-weaving.Colleges and universities should stop looking on the student body, alumni and donation/grant arenas as a place to raise a field of hay while the rest of us languish. They have a PRIMARY purpose for existing...to educate the young so they can contribute. If the institution cannot achieve this PRIMARY goal, it should be closed.
Honestly, I think a person could successfully pass the bar with 1 year of law school. In fact, see no reason why you shouldnt be able to self teach yourself.
No need to force students into anything. There are already far more pre-meds, than there are spots at medical schools. Create more slots, and we will have more doctors.OPEN a few more medical schools, and force a high percent of students to study family medicine.
Again, no need to force these institutions into any of these actions. The current system exists because of perverse government incentives.Force the institutions to provide students with reliable DOL data about the future of any occupation they are allegedly studying to enter. If we need fewer teachers K-12 (which we do, regardless of the economy, because population is growing more slowly) then CLOSE some education departments, raise the entrance standards at those that remain, and force institutions to find ways to retool higher education paths, so that other students are shunted into new career paths that really exist.
Eliminate government subsidies of higher education, and these problems will solve themselves. If there are too many teachers, word will spread that there are no jobs in teaching, and students paying big $$$ to attend school will not waste time studying to be a teacher.
I disagree. The institution offering to graduate 10,000 teachers and sociology majors annually needs to be CLOSED to prevent students from wasting years, crippling themselves with debt and draining away their labor while the professors et al congratulate themselves on another "successful" year.
American Universities provide every resource necessary for students to launch their careers. The fact is, most American 18-year-olds are simply too immature to utilize all that is available, and so fall into useless majors. Nobody is forcing you to take basket-weaving.Colleges and universities should stop looking on the student body, alumni and donation/grant arenas as a place to raise a field of hay while the rest of us languish. They have a PRIMARY purpose for existing...to educate the young so they can contribute. If the institution cannot achieve this PRIMARY goal, it should be closed.
I have never met an engineer who thought his college education was a waste of time or money.
Higher education is simply not meant for everyone, despite what our politicians seem to believe.
Seeing how many colleges now are facing steep budget issues, who would support mass dropping of liberal arts degree programs? Obviously some introduction liberal arts classes are needed for all majors, but the idea of getting a 4 year degree in liberal arts is just ridiculous and a waste of time. These programs are also a drag on the college as they bring in no research or other money and must be completely funded by tuition, which also drops during bad economic times. Unlike liberal arts programs, students and professors in math, science, and engineering actually make profits for the school through grants and commercialization of products in conjunction with local businesses.
Honestly, I think a person could successfully pass the bar with 1 year of law school. In fact, see no reason why you shouldnt be able to self teach yourself.
Shhh. If the America Bar Association were to hear you, you'd get a real spanking. What's a domain without any dominions?